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Ya nations should create jobs for foreigners and undercut their own citizen's wages. 10/10.
Nations should seek to have the best people in the appropriate roles. If those people are not native citizens, then the schooling system needs to be addressed. As evidenced by your woefully apparent lack of education.


also grammarly makes your grammar shit, this explains your writing.

"method OF employment" not "FOR employment." do you even preposition?

I wouldn't know; I don't need to use it, having had an education and I would confidently put my grammar and sentence construction to a test of comparison against your... "efforts". Whether grammarly or a similar app are good or not, they could only improve the text output of your sperm-drowned brain.

Also, no. "selection method for employment" would indicate the selection method of the employer in choosing whom to employ. You utter twat-rash.


Congratulations, Boxie, you finally managed to get under my skin. I am many things, but I am NOT UK scum.
Oi, watch it... ;)
 
Here comes another tale of the Boxershorts:

In the Kiwi courts Whiteness laughed at Boxershorts, because he was unsightly, and because she couldn't help it, and because he never did anything worth doing, and because she would.

And Boxershorts hated being laughed at, and used to brood apart thinking only of his wrongs and of what he could do to end this intolerable treatment.

But one day Boxershorts appeared in the courts with an air and they all noticed it. "What are you up to now?" said Whiteness. And Boxershorts with some solemnity said to her: "I am going to frighten Stardust"; and drawing about him his grey traveller's cloak went out through the windy door with his jowl turned earthwards.

And he came soon to the debate thread and the hall that kiwis knew, and opened the door and saw there famous Stardust, with her white locks bending close over the fire, trying to warm her hands.

And the wind through the open door blew bitterly on Stardust

And Boxershorts came up behind her, and suddenly shouted.

And Stardust went on warming her pale hands.

Then Boxershorts came close and began to mouth at her. And after a while Stardust turned and spoke. And "Well, old servant," she said, "has your ass been healed since I bent it backwards and fucked it raw?”

And Boxershorts for some while stood mute, for he thought of the laughter of literally everyone.

Then "Come now," said Stardust, "get the hell outta of my sight," and he leaning heavily on that bony joint, went through the open door.
 
You have no vision. People see society collapsing and they want solutions. First they turn to grifters that tell them what they already believe (Jordan Peterson) then when that doesn't work, they start looking outside the box.

Trust me. Nobody is looking to you for solutions to anything, unless they need help picking out novelty buttplugs.


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Nations should seek to have the best people in the appropriate roles. If those people are not native citizens, then the schooling system needs to be addressed. As evidenced by your woefully apparent lack of education.


You sound completely retarded.

1. Goal of a nation is NOT to make jobs for foreigners. You view citizenship as nothing more than an economic unit (worker) to be replaced if they don't want to work for the absolute lowest wages.
2. Community matters. If you fill your nation with foreigners, it causes white flight. There is a value to having a neighborhood where you belong. We have studies that show diversity = lower trust and correlated with more suicide.
3. During times of unrest, war, these economic immigrants will flee to greener pastures. These economic units won't fight to defend your nation. So this type of immigration doesn't work long-term.

I wouldn't know; I don't need to use it, having had an education and I would confidently put my grammar and sentence construction to a test of comparison against your... "efforts". Whether grammarly or a similar app are good or not, they could only improve the text output of your sperm-drowned brain.


Education, lol you mean brainwashing. Prove it. How many years of Latin did take during your education?

Also, no. "selection method for employment" would indicate the selection method of the employer in choosing whom to employ. You utter twat-rash.



Oi, watch it... ;)
nice bait and switch. You said " method for employment" which means a method for the benefit of employment, not employer.
 
You sound completely retarded.

1. Goal of a nation is NOT to make jobs for foreigners. You view citizenship as nothing more than an economic unit (worker) to be replaced if they don't want to work for the absolute lowest wages.
2. Community matters. If you fill your nation with foreigners, it causes white flight. There is a value to having a neighborhood where you belong. We have studies that show diversity = lower trust and correlated with more suicide.
3. During times of unrest, war, these economic immigrants will flee to greener pastures. These economic units won't fight to defend your nation. So this type of immigration doesn't work long-term.



Education, lol you mean brainwashing. Prove it. How many years of Latin did take during your education?

nice bait and switch. You said " method for employment" which means a method for the benefit of employment, not employer.
Hang on a second, let me try and parse this trashfire...

*I* sound retarded? Good grief, man. Matthew 7:5

1. The goal of a nation is to survive and thrive, nothing more; the "nation" is an amorphous entity, by nature and design greater than the sum of its parts.
2. What studies? Post them.
3. Plenty of native residents flee countries in times of war and strife; this is a specious argument.

No, I mean education. If you stopped being educated after you left school, that's on you. What makes you think that Latin is in any way necessary for education? That sounds like... well, brainwashing, to me, Boxcar.

No, my original post remains unedited, Boxy. I said ". . . The only valid selection method for employment is a meritocracy. . . " verbatim.
That means that the only valid selection method an employer can use to select an employee is a meritocracy. Your lack of reading comprehension does not, in fact, invalidate what I have written.
 
Hang on a second, let me try and parse this trashfire...

*I* sound retarded? Good grief, man. Matthew 7:5

1. The goal of a nation is to survive and thrive, nothing more; the "nation" is an amorphous entity, by nature and design greater than the sum of its parts.
2. What studies? Post them.
3. Plenty of native residents flee countries in times of war and strife; this is a specious argument.

No, I mean education. If you stopped being educated after you left school, that's on you. What makes you think that Latin is in any way necessary for education? That sounds like... well, brainwashing, to me, Boxcar.

No, my original post remains unedited, Boxy. I said ". . . The only valid selection method for employment is a meritocracy. . . " verbatim.
That means that the only valid selection method an employer can use to select an employee is a meritocracy. Your lack of reading comprehension does not, in fact, invalidate what I have written.
topkek. neo-liberal and a chistcuck. pure cringe.

1. no nation is blood. you're conflating nation with country or empire.
2. https://archive.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/
3. people can only flee if you allow refugee status (open borders). And doesn't address my point, these fairweather immigrants won't risk dying to protect your nation.
4. You're just pimping out your citizenship to the lowest bidder and undercutting your own people's wages with open borders. Most immigrants are meritocratic entrepreneurs, they are cheap foreign labour.
 
topkek. neo-liberal and a chistcuck. pure cringe.

1. no nation is blood. you're conflating nation with country or empire.
2. https://archive.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/
3. people can only flee if you allow refugee status (open borders). And doesn't address my point, these fairweather immigrants won't risk dying to protect your nation.
4. You're just pimping out your citizenship to the lowest bidder and undercutting your own people's wages with open borders. Most immigrants are meritocratic entrepreneurs, they are cheap foreign labour.
Nope, not a liberal of any stripe, I'm afraid. What, precisely, is a "chistcuck"? I've never been to Belarus, much less Maladzyechna, and I've certainly never been cucked by it. You're not making much sense, here, amigo. You should have spent more time being educated in the use of the English language, my fence-hopping chum.

1. Nope. It's rather more than blood. It doesn't directly align with country or empire but it's certainly more than blood.
nation
/ˈneɪʃ(ə)n/
noun
1. a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory.
e.g "the world's leading industrialized nations"



2. No, that's an article about one (1) study. You have to be aware that this does not constitute supporting evidence. Try harder.
3. Typically, people tend to flee from, not to; often the only point of importance in those scenarios is where they're fleeing from, not where they will end up.
4. No, you're assuring that your companies, services, etc., have the best employees, not the "best in a 10 mile radius" ones. Are you telling me that, in the unlikely event that a company headhunted you for a job overseas, based on your suitability, you'd turn it down? Purely because you weren't born in the country that housed the job? If so, you're an even bigger retard than anyone here previously thought, and that itself, is quite a concept.
 
Nope, not a liberal of any stripe, I'm afraid. What, precisely, is a "chistcuck"? I've never been to Belarus, much less Maladzyechna, and I've certainly never been cucked by it. You're not making much sense, here, amigo. You should have spent more time being educated in the use of the English language, my fence-hopping chum.

1. Nope. It's rather more than blood. It doesn't directly align with country or empire but it's certainly more than blood.
nation
/ˈneɪʃ(ə)n/
noun
1. a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory.
e.g "the world's leading industrialized nations"



2. No, that's an article about one (1) study. You have to be aware that this does not constitute supporting evidence. Try harder.
3. Typically, people tend to flee from, not to; often the only point of importance in those scenarios is where they're fleeing from, not where they will end up.
4. No, you're assuring that your companies, services, etc., have the best employees, not the "best in a 10 mile radius" ones. Are you telling me that, in the unlikely event that a company headhunted you for a job overseas, based on your suitability, you'd turn it down? Purely because you weren't born in the country that housed the job? If so, you're an even bigger retard than anyone here previously thought, and that itself, is quite a concept.
you are a neo-liberal. citizenship = economic unit to maximize gdp is part of neo-liberalism. You don't respect borders, you don't believe people have a right to have communities that look like them. That's a totally insane mentality, fueled by neo-liberalism.
You also brag about your education like everyone other midwit shitlib.

1 study that has not been disproven is sufficient. Logical fallacy.

lots of people refuse jobs in non-local areas because they want to stay with their friends and families. Again the idea that we should have free movement of people for economic reasons = neo-liberalism. Also as other nations develop, they won't need to import white western workers. Again MOST jobs are repetitive and they can be filled with local workers. The globalization we see today will not last indefinitely, especially as the developing world finishes developing.

> a large body of people united by common descent,

That means blood you retard.
 
you are a neo-liberal. citizenship = economic unit to maximize gdp is part of neo-liberalism. You don't respect borders, you don't believe people have a right to have communities that look like them. That's a totally insane mentality, fueled by neo-liberalism.
You also brag about your education like everyone other midwit shitlib.

1 study that has not been disproven is sufficient. Logical fallacy.

lots of people refuse jobs in non-local areas because they want to stay with their friends and families. Again the idea that we should have free movement of people for economic reasons = neo-liberalism. Also as other nations develop, they won't need to import white western workers. Again MOST jobs are repetitive and they can be filled with local workers. The globalization we see today will not last indefinitely, especially as the developing world finishes developing.

> a large body of people united by common descent,

That means blood you retard.
You're a peach, aren't you?
I do indeed respect borders, I just believe they should be subject to draconian policing, rather than closed. People have every right to a community that looks like them; in practice, though, it's hard to make that work. Where are the lines drawn? Skin colour? Specific ethnicity? Genetic similarity? Matching haircuts?
I don't brag that I have an education, I merely use it contextually. You claim to have had one and yet don't use the fruits of it.

You haven't posted the study, you retard. You posted a link to an article about the study. Is this really so difficult for you to understand?
Also, one study that has not been disproven is not considered sufficient . That, my lackwit chum, is an "argument from ignorance" fallacy.
Once again, you pants yourself and hand out tickets to your ass. Embarrassing.

I wasn't talking about "most" jobs, though, was I? Your reading comprehension is positively humiliating. That, or you deliberately ignore points you don't want to address. Let me put this in terms you're familiar with, I'll get the special crayons out;
In that specific scenario, where you are the most qualified candidate available, you would turn down a job purely because you were not native to the country in which the job was offered. Y/N?

You've opted to quote part of what I posted in order to enhance your argument. What cope. I've emboldened the relevant part and added some simplifying text so you can read it easier. You realise that one does not have to meet all of those criteria for the general label to be applied, yes? Integrators are part of the nation, people with a shared (non-geolocal) culture, are part of the nation, people resident sufficiently long to be EFL are part of the nation. Whether you like this or not, it is a fact. Retard.
  1. a large body of people united by common descent, (OR) history, (OR) culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory.

    noun
    1. a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory.
      "the world's leading industrialized nations"
Is that any clearer or are we going to have to start drawing pictures?
 
Did anything funny happen since the zoophilia reveal? I'm not reading the six pages that I missed.

We went off on a small tangent where Boxy makes up a bunch of excuses for why his manifesto isn't done.

no. because there are 100s of different ideas to internalize. rhetoric to negate. this is a high bar which is why no one else has succeed.

Start about here. Otherwise it is pretty standard Boxy "I am right about everything because X Y Z get owned neo libtard 2010 talking points" shit.
 
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