2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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If he were on the other side of the aisle I don't know how we would be able to stop him either.
the GOP already had their turn at failing to stop Trump back in the 2016 primaries

Unrelated was there some memo sent out for the gop talking heads suggesting they show their power levels? Gorka was being his usual casual boomer nerd but one of the Sekulows was talking about wrasslin, wrasslin newsletters and comparing Chicago's Mayor Bowser to Bowser King Of The Koopas
edit for derp - Bowser is mayor of DC
 
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the GOP already had their turn at failing to stop Trump back in the 2016 primaries

Unrelated was there some memo sent out for the gop talking heads suggesting they show their power levels? Gorka was being his usual casual boomer nerd but one of the Sekulows was talking about wrasslin, wrasslin newsletters and comparing Chicago's Mayor Bowser to Bowser King Of The Koopas

The GOP didnt think he would win. The RNC had phoned it in well before the primary. None of them thought Clinton could be realistically stopped. It was her turn and she was the queen swamp creature.

The election though, I do not like what I see in the tea leaves. Trump is an existential threat to the institutional state, and if he gets a second term quite a few very powerful figures are in serious trouble. We are perilously close to war and there is no point in denying it. The electoral system in America has failed before in spectacular fashion. The 1860 federal elections resulted in a war that killed 10% of the American male population and left several urban centers burned out ruins. Its foolish to assume it cant happen again.
 
The electoral system in America has failed before in spectacular fashion. The 1860 federal elections resulted in a war that killed 10% of the American male population and left several urban centers burned out ruins.
To say that the root cause of the Civil War was the 1860 election is stretching it, to say the least.
 
To say that the root cause of the Civil War was the 1860 election is stretching it, to say the least.

No, it was the spark that lit the powderkeg. To say Franz Ferdinand getting shot was the root cause of World War 1 is also a stretch. My point is that there is way too much political animosity atm, and very powerful political factions have a great deal to lose. No matter the outcome. That is a recipe for war.
 
Honestly, I am kind of worried about the upcoming election. I worry that Trump's supporters, and the dude himself for that matter, are gonna be too complacent and think that they have the win in the bag, and do little to try and win people over as a result, along with not really getting out to vote in addition to that.

Sort of like what happened with the Democrats in the last election, and look what happened to them as a result.
It seems more people voting for Biden think he has it in the bag than the other way around, because of the polls and media. Deja vu 2016. If anyone gets complacent, it's them since they're less enthusiastic for him than they were for Clinton and "he's going to win anyway".

I worry the most about moderates/Independents/undecideds voting for Biden out of a false sense of "normalcy", but who knows?
 
I can't believe I'm gonna white knight for the Dems, but in their defense, Trump is a force of nature unlike anything ever seen before.

If he were on the other side of the aisle I don't know how we would be able to stop him either. But lucky for us, we don't have that problem because he's on our team.

That's the main reasons progressives hate him; they don't have a Trump of their own. Dime store Trump, aka Bernie, is no comparison with the real thing.

I feel like the Right went through it during the Obama years. Maybe it wasn't to the degree that Trump is, but the right combination of positive message, charisma, simple hope/change catchphrases, and yes, the race issue, made Obama fairly untouchable in 2008 and 2012.

I don't recall the right flipping out nearly to this degree. There was some "Obama Derangement Syndrome" cringe reactions to him, and there were organized protests like the Tea Party Rallies, but it never evolved into something where you felt like the country was being burned down by violent mobs or people on Twitter were losing their shit, or any Conservative media was having a total meltdown.
 
The GOP didnt think he would win. The RNC had phoned it in well before the primary. None of them thought Clinton could be realistically stopped. It was her turn and she was the queen swamp creature.
oh yeah, I recall early chatter before Trump came on the scene that they were giving basically no fucks about the White House and were just looking to strengthen in Congress and focus on the state and local levels.
but once the primaries got going there was certainly an effort to stop him, however weak it may have been
organized protests like the Tea Party Rallies
as much as the media played them up as bible thumping #FUKOBEME stuff a lot of what I saw more irl-ish was just as (if not more) pissed about establishment gop
 
as much as the media played them up as bible thumping #FUKOBEME stuff a lot of what I saw more irl-ish was just as (if not more) pissed about establishment gop

Oh absolutely.

The funniest part of the Tea Party, to me, is that the liberal media wanted to paint them as a rabid animal bigot mob that was going to cause violence everywhere...and it never happened. Seriously, I can't recall one incident that took place with any of the Tea Party rallies, and you know if there had been one, it would have been covered 24/7 for years and would still be brought up today.

It was like CNN, MSNBC, and all the rest were just waiting for them to do something or even for something they could spin into horrible ways...but it never happened.

Fast forward to 2020 and we have BLM and ANTIFA basically burning down every major city, and their all like "They are mostly peaceful" while images of flaming buildings are in the background, and early on, they even attacked CNN headquarters. Its unbelievable.
 
Oh absolutely.

The funniest part of the Tea Party, to me, is that the liberal media wanted to paint them as a rabid animal bigot mob that was going to cause violence everywhere...and it never happened. Seriously, I can't recall one incident that took place with any of the Tea Party rallies, and you know if there had been one, it would have been covered 24/7 for years and would still be brought up today.

It was like CNN, MSNBC, and all the rest were just waiting for them to do something or even for something they could spin into horrible ways...but it never happened.

Fast forward to 2020 and we have BLM and ANTIFA basically burning down every major city, and their all like "They are mostly peaceful" while images of flaming buildings are in the background, and early on, they even attacked CNN headquarters. Its unbelievable.
I have no idea if it was a national policy but I recall a local Tea Party mandate was that whatever public venue you protested at you picked up all the litter you saw to leave it cleaner and in better shape than it was when you got there.
 
Oh absolutely.

The funniest part of the Tea Party, to me, is that the liberal media wanted to paint them as a rabid animal bigot mob that was going to cause violence everywhere...and it never happened. Seriously, I can't recall one incident that took place with any of the Tea Party rallies, and you know if there had been one, it would have been covered 24/7 for years and would still be brought up today.

It was like CNN, MSNBC, and all the rest were just waiting for them to do something or even for something they could spin into horrible ways...but it never happened.

Fast forward to 2020 and we have BLM and ANTIFA basically burning down every major city, and their all like "They are mostly peaceful" while images of flaming buildings are in the background, and early on, they even attacked CNN headquarters. Its unbelievable.
The Right is a sleeping giant. Aside from some of the groups that thrust themselves into Far-Left stomping grounds (Proud Boys should really stay out of Portland), most of the Republicans and Trump Supporters just want to chill and be safe. You can threaten and harass them all you want, but push come to shove, and I think it's a yeet from the Right.
 
No, it was the spark that lit the powderkeg.
I would argue the spark was somewhere between 4 years of bleeding kansas and the junior South Carolina senator beating the shit out of a Massachusetts senator for giving a speech about Lawrence being razed, again. Everything that followed was just incidental to the inevitable secondary explosion at fort sumter.
 
I can't believe I'm gonna white knight for the Dems, but in their defense, Trump is a force of nature unlike anything ever seen before.

If he were on the other side of the aisle I don't know how we would be able to stop him either. But lucky for us, we don't have that problem because he's on our team.

That's the main reasons progressives hate him; they don't have a Trump of their own. Dime store Trump, aka Bernie, is no comparison with the real thing.
If the Dem establishment didn't have Bernie's balls in a little purse or Trump decided to run as a left wing populist and he was running against Mitt Romney and Carly Fiorina? I'd probably be massively blackpilled, I wouldn't even have the energy to go Derangement Syndrome.
 
...they even attacked CNN headquarters.
That was my favorite part of the riots so far. They peaked early for me. There is a clip from the CNN broadcast that night. The feed shows a shot from tinside the lobby. There are 10-20 officers in view and I'm sure more outside of view. A rioter throws a firework into the lobby and the anchor who's speaking freaks out. You can hear the fear in their voice as they ask what happened and if everyone is okay, clearly panicked. You can tell the thought "Oh my god, the useful idiots might turn their violence on us" ran through their head for a split second. I don't know where the studios are in the Atlanta building, but it's huge. There were multiple floors, security doors, private security, and a couple dozen cops in between the anchor and the violence they support. Yet they shit their pants at the first sign the violence might come for them. It was the most delicious schadenfreude for me since Hillary supporters on election night.

Of course the next day there were a couple platoons of Guard deployed to CNN headquarters. The MSM agitprop whores are far more important than some pleb's takeout restaurant or convenience store.
 
Hey, my mom came downstairs yelling about Trump and military, anyone got information on this?
 
For the most part, I would say "yes".

The real question is: can Biden solidify the anti-Trump crowd into voting for him?
Really depends on how fervent they are- if they're the sort that would go on a holy jihad if CNN made the call, or the type who merely dislikes Trump for being rude.

To Trump, the key to success is to keep a steady hand and avoid any sort of negative blockbuster equivalent to the impeachment or the coronavirus that would dominate multiple newscycles. This avoids creating fresh motivation for the anti-Trump groups (who themselves are actively making good reasons for Trump's reelection).

IMO, the biggest potential roadblocks is possible widespread violence (encouraged by Antifa and their Democrats handlers), and any potential economic downturn in the fall. Coronavirus might be an issue, but only if some insurmountable huge second wave appears and the country is forcibly locked down again.
 
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