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Jarolleon said:
So rather than a long string of dubious arguments on the topic that overwhelms the opponent's ability to address them, you instead overwhelm them with mischaracterizations of the opponent's argument, which are more unbalancing due to their personal nature?
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See the infamous "So you're saying-" meme and the laughable so-called debate it sprang from. When you can't win against the opponent's argument, recharacterize the argument into something else, hopefully something they'll be too afraid to argue against. This can be anywhere from simply forcing you to defend the most distasteful aspects of your stance (even if those aspects aren't actually harmful to anyone, just distasteful) to attempt to associate you with those aspects because you were willing to defend them, to inventing an extreme and highly unlikely scenario that you would of course look like a monster for opposing, to entirely and completely making up a whole different argument.

"I believe in free speech." "So you're saying you want people writing books about Nazis raping black women?"

"I oppose abortion." "So you're saying you want to force a six-year-old girl who was gang-raped by thirty-three Nazis to have her octuplets?"

"I don't think judges should legislate from the bench." "So you're saying you want the Nazis to establish the new reich?"
 
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vanilla_pepsi_head said:
In the interest of fairness, Biden might legitimately believe whatever his handlers tell him before he goes on air, I'm not even sure if he's lying intentionally at this point. He's pretty much always been a lying sleazebag as far as I know, and I don't even feel bad when Trump rips on him about it, but the DNC using him as a prop and making him a fucking laughingstock instead of letting him retire in peace when he doesn't appear to understand what he's saying half the time is just cruel and unnecessary.
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So was "Lying, dog-faced pony soldier" the real Biden, or a garbled version of some response his handlers coached him on?
 
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GuntPunt said:
Hoes mad.

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Well... I mean I think the mayor of New York City brought the China Virus to New York City. We did this the other week but here we go again, I'll open the WuFlu Vault.

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And then I remember Cuomo and de Blasio getting into a PR battle over this and blaming each other while allowing the situation to spiral out of control. And didn't Cuomo get caught crying about not having enough ventilators while also sitting on a secret stockpile of ventilators in a warehouse across the river in New Jersey? I don't know I'm probably just crazy.
 
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vanilla_pepsi_head said:
I don't get this either. I keep hearing people say Trump mishandled the virus (well it's usually said in a more inflammatory way than that) but whenever I ask them why they think so, I hear shit that's either totally misrepresented or outright false, or so vague and ridiculous it's unprovable either way (Trump's prioritizing politics over American lives!! He's putting people at risk!!! He should have done more!! Why isn't he investigating treatments? (Oh he is?) Well fuck him, he shouldn't, that shit's DaNgErOuS and UnPrOvEn! Why didn't he give the states more ventilators? Okay he did, well what about tests? He did. Unemployment relief? Damn it. Well... what about asymptomatic carriers? It's both fatal and causes no symptoms among most people depending on whatever is convenient to my narrative at the time, checkmate, fuck you! What do you mean that has nothing to do with Trump? People are dying and it's ALL HIS FAULT!) I never really understood the term "begging the question" until I've tried to have a discussion with some of these people.

I'm not even someone who thinks Trump's actions shouldn't be criticized on this issue, I just legitimately haven't heard any criticism yet that isn't retarded. Besides, what he says pretty much doesn't matter because it's not like any of them are going to fucking listen to him anyway.
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Trump,like all world leaders, is doing his best to combat the pandemic. He could have done everything that his many critics wanted him to do. But it wouldn't really make a difference in the amount of people who died/are dying and the toll on the economy.
 
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Because running solely on “at least I’m not the other guy!” doesn’t exactly inspire confidence in your strengths. That and they don’t seem to know where they are a lot of the time...
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Because maybe intelligent people who don't happen to be multi-millionaire authors know that Trump isn't to blame for the fact that Covid exists and killed people. Nor was he negligent in such a way that deaths can be blamed on him.

You'd have to be a dumb celebrity Leftist to buy "Trump's to blame because nobody is going to DisneyWorld", right? Help me understand this, Steve.
 
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SteelPlatedHeart said:
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Because running solely on “at least I’m not the other guy!” doesn’t exactly inspire confidence in your strengths. That and they don’t seem to know where they are a lot of the time...
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Don't forget Biden is constantly flip flopping or lying on the campaign trail.

But the "at least I'm not the other guy!" campaign strategy is one that constantly fails since what will Biden's plan be once he defeats Trump since beating Trump is something that will be done with election day but what next
 
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SteelPlatedHeart said:
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Because running solely on “at least I’m not the other guy!” doesn’t exactly inspire confidence in your strengths. That and they don’t seem to know where they are a lot of the time...
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Because there's an America that exists outside of Twitter circlejerks. I have to say, it's delicious to see libs' shock and horror these past few weeks, now that it's coming into focus that getting rid of Cheeto Benito won't get rid of the Deplorables.
 
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Crossposting from the 2020 election thread, as a general reminder to those reading, posting, or lurking in this thread:

https://twitter.com/HNIJohnMiller/status/1272912307048321024

"The Democrats have: tried to impeach Trump and failed spectacularly, called him a rapist, called him a racist, accused him of treason, accused him of being a rapist some more, and claimed he had a urine fetish. Oh, they accuse him of having dementia too They have no Oct surprise" - Comrade Fudge
 
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I see news today that a "far-right" "leader" proclaimed in Salem that Democrat leaders need to be shot dead. And then the article associated not only Q Anon, but the Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer. As if the icing wasn't being laid on thick already. And this is a huge deal.

Unlike when they ignored every far leftist calling for the death of rich people, white people, politicians, Republicans, men, straight people, business owners, Capitalists, suburbanites, white women, "uncle toms", the police...

 
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