🐱 Disney’s toxic strategy for Star Wars? It’s all about lying, failing & then attacking the fans of the movies

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Lucasfilm’s modus operandi of lying to fans and then attacking them for being upset over the lies has been going on since Kathleen Kennedy took over in 2012. Can Star Wars survive this poisonous approach?
On September 8, 2020, the Jimmy Kimmel Live show aired a video of actor Josh Gad interviewing actress Daisy Ridley. Gad, being an ardent Star Wars fan, of course questioned Ridley about her role as Rey in episodes 7-9 of the new Star Wars Trilogy. Gad, in particular, focused on Rey’s lineage, asking Ridley if she always knew her character was going to be the granddaughter of the evil Emperor Palpatine. Ridley responded:
At the beginning, there was toying with an Obi-Wan connection. And then it went to ‘she was no one’, and then it came to Episode 9 and JJ [Abrams] pitched me the film and was like ‘Oh, yeah, Palpatine is granddaddy.’ And I was like ‘awesome’. And then two weeks later he was like ‘Well, we’re not sure,’ so it kept changing. So then even I think we were filming and I wasn’t sure what the answer was going to be.”

Within minutes of this revelation hitting the internet, it swept through the Star Wars fandom like wildfire. Since the release of The Last Jedi in 2018, the fans have been divided, with one side defending Lucasfilm’s choices with the new movies and the other side decrying the direction in which the franchise was headed.

Among the biggest divisive arguments was the one centered around the “plan” for the sequel trilogy. The naysayers were loudly claiming that it was obvious there was no plan for the new trilogy and that Lucasfilm was making it up as they went.

The opposition held fast with Lucasfilm’s official stance – that the trilogy had been planned from the beginning. The reasons stated for this staunch belief were:

  • JJ Abrams had written treatments for all three films in the franchise already.
  • The Lucasfilm Story Group was overseeing all the movies to maintain continuity.
  • Disney knows how to plan out franchises, as they did with Marvel.
But probably the biggest defense against the “there is no plan for Star Wars” argument were the words of Lucasfilm CEO Kathleen Kennedy herself. In an interview with website iO9 in December of 2019, before the release of The Rise of Skywalker, Kennedy said:

When we sat down to do Force Awakens we spent a great deal of time working out all three movies and doing a real deep dive on the previous six and talking about that, understanding the mythology that George [Lucas] had created, bringing in people who had worked on those films, been a part of Lucasfilm. We brought in two or three different writers. There were, what? Eight of us usually sitting in that room and whiteboarding what the possibilities are and looking at character arcs, identifying. Because George had already gone to Harrison [Ford], Carrie [Fisher] and Mark [Hamill] to do the film. So we knew that was a given. That we were bringing them back into the trilogy and we’re introducing new characters. So we had a sense of where this was going.

However, the Ridley revelation has blown that narrative out of the water. In fact, over time, all the arguments the Lucasfilm Loyal have used to state that the Star Wars sequel trilogy had been meticulously planned out have completely fallen apart.


Fact: There were no treatments from JJ Abrams.

The only treatments done for the sequel trilogy came from screenwriter Michael Arndt, who was hired by Lucasfilm before its sale to Disney to develop episodes 7-8. Arndt went on to write a 50 page treatment for episode 7 and was expected to plot out Episodes 8 and 9 in treatment form as well. However, when Disney balked at Arndt’s 12-month timeframe to properly plot out all three films, JJ Abrams brought on screenwriter Laurence Kasdan to replace him, effectively tossing out his treatment of Episode 7 in favor of something totally new.

In his 2019 memoir, The Ride of a Lifetime, former Disney CEO Bob Iger also revealed that, leading up to the Disney buy-out of Lucasfilm, George Lucas himself had developed three treatments for the new Star Wars sequel trilogy, which Iger never had any intention of using.

Probably most damning is a tweet from Episode 8 writer/director Rian Johnson (which has since been deleted), which seems to confirm that there were no outlines or treatments of the films by JJ Abrams. The tweet goes:

@Bogwing I’m sure they talked about where it might go early on, but when they came to me there was no mapped story presented beyond TFA.
— Rian Johnson (@rianjohnson) May 29, 2017
Fact: The Lucasfilm Story Group had no say in the making of the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy.

One of Kennedy’s crowning achievements as she took the reins of Lucasfilm was the creation of a ‘Story Group’, something more common in TV production than that of movies. According to a Vanity Fair article, the purpose of the Lucasfilm Story Group was to “maintain the narrative continuity and integrity of all the Star Wars properties that exist across various platforms: animation, video games, novels, comic books, and, most important, movies.” However, it was also specified in the article what the Story Group did NOT do…

What the story group does not do… is impose plot-point mandates on the filmmakers. Johnson told me he was surprised at how much leeway he was given to cook up the action of Episode VIII from scratch.


Rian Johnson reportedly was the only filmmaker to actively work with the Story Group, spending three months with them in the creation of what would become The Last Jedi. According to Johnson

I was truly able to write this script without bases to tag, and without a big outline on the wall. That meant I could react to what I felt from The Force Awakens, and what I wanted to see. I could make this movie personal. I could also just take these characters where it felt right and most interesting to take them. I think part of the reason the movie feels like it goes to some unexpected places with the characters is that we had that freedom. If it had all just been planned out and written down beforehand, it might have felt a little more calculated, I suppose.”

Following the disappointments of both The Last Jedi and SOLO: A Star Wars Story, Kennedy ended up dismantlingthe Story Group, chalking it up to a “failed experiment.”

As is plain to see, the lauded ‘Lucasfilm Story Group’ had no real power in overseeing the Star Wars sequel trilogy.

Fact: Marvel’s experience handling franchise-wide stories did not translate over to Lucasfilm.

Disney’s hands-off approach to management seems to work well for studios like Marvel, but not so well for studios like Lucasfilm, which has consistently shown massive disorganization at the highest levels. The most famous example of this was the firing of directors Phil Lord and Chris Miller on the movie SOLO: A Star Wars Story, leading to a massive reshoot and budget overruns of up to $200 million dollars.

Not to mention the lesser-known rewrite and reshooting of Rogue One, a film that was such a mess that it reportedly sent Disney executives into a panic. And then there was the Obi-Wan debacle, where Kennedy announced at Disney’s D-23 Expo that all the scripts for the highly anticipated Star Wars Disney+ TV series were already written, only to backtrack a few months later when the series was put on indefinite hold and it was revealed there were only two scripts that were written and had to be completely discarded while the whole series got retooled.

And though Marvel big-wig Kevin Feige has been tapped to produce a new Star Wars movie, Kennedy is still the one in charge of Lucasfilm and day-to-day development. So long as she remains in power, the kind of disorganization that has marked her tenure since she first took over in 2012 will continue to be prevalent in Lucasfilm.


Fact: Lucasfilm and its employees attack its own fanbase for calling them out on their lies.

It has long been documented that Lucasfilm and the people they employ have a very contentious relationship with the Star Wars fanbase, particularly when it comes to the creative direction the franchise has taken under Kennedy. But the complaints of the ‘critical faction’ of the fanbase have always been offset by those who want to give Lucasfilm the benefit of the doubt.

However, after the disappointment of The Rise of Skywalker which left many admirers of The Last Jedi out in the cold, and the recent revelation from Ridley that there was never a plan around one of the sequel trilogy’s biggest mysteries, many of the Lucasfilm faithful are seeing their loyalty to the company begin to wane. Almost immediately after the ‘Ridley Revelation’, formerly ‘pro Lucasfilm’ YouTube channels began voicing their displeasure at finding out they’d been lied to for the past eight years.


Despite this, Lucasfilm has not stopped its attack on fans who dare to question their decisions, no matter how ‘questionable’ those decisions are. Long-time Lucasfilm defender Bryan Young has already begun the counter-narrative argument that the Original Trilogy wasn’t planned out (despite the fact that it was) in defense of the sequel trilogy being a fly-by-night operation.

How much longer can a franchise sustain itself by lying to and attacking the people it depends on for its very existence? The backlash from mistreated Star Wars fans is obviously being felt by Disney and its licensees, who have seen a decline in sales of Star Wars merchandise across the board. It’s also evident in Disney’s re-tooling of its Star Wars movie release strategy and its shifted focus to Star Wars-based TV offerings for its streaming service that they are worried about how the franchise has been handled thus far.

It is safe to say that until there is a change in leadership and corporate culture at Lucasfilm, Star Wars fans can expect more of the same: Lies, more lies, and attacks.

Sadly, for the foreseeable future, it would appear the Dark Side has won where Lucasfilm is concerned.
 
Let it die, it's for consoomers and simps now.

Like this dude:
Star wars fag

At least he's having fun I guess, and I get my fun from watching it burn.

I have a hard time taking anyone seriously who unironically likes Star Wars, which sucks because there's at least two people in my life who I love who do. I just sort of think of it like you would if you found out someone you like is into CBT or something.
 
I have a hard time taking anyone seriously who unironically likes Star Wars, which sucks because there's at least two people in my life who I love who do. I just sort of think of it like you would if you found out someone you like is into CBT or something.
There’s only been two good starwarses idk how the fandom is even a thing
 
Step 1. Buy a beloved property that is universally loved sending billions annually to your bottom line
Step 2. Hire people who actively dislike your property, seek to change the property to their own ideology, and hire people of like minded repute
Step 3. Release content that matches your new ideology to the masses.
Step 4. Ridicule, shame, harrass, and lash out at people who disagree with your new property and demand to go back to the way it was.
Step 5. Hire more people who don't understand the original material nor the new material that was generated.
Step 6. Repeat Steps 3-5 for 16 consecutive fiscal quarters.
Step 7. PROFIT! Declare unspecified losses and write downs due to "Property Mismanagement"
 
It's just Disney's turn after Lucas sloppy seconds.
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>it took RT this long to realise this
Russia is now Not Based and is given the Cringe Fatwa.

I've never seen a timely article about how a piece of media is being mishandled.
Something can rot for decades (like the FIFA games) and then after it's essentially common knowledge, every media outlet goes "hey did anyone else notice how shit this is???"

It's probably just because they don't want any controversial opinions, actually. Gotta sacrifice journalism for the sustainable market of "this person good, this person bad, hey look someone rescued a puppy"
 
George Lucas never should have sold his slaves to the Disney slavers. George may have made his slaves do wild and crazy things (like the first two prequels) but at least he knows how to produce a trilogy of movies in a professional way that avoided the hundreds of millions of dollars in extra direct costs and billions in lost potential revenues mistakes of Disney. Yeah KK was there with him but she wasn't in charge, he was.

The main problem of modern society is narcissistic autists who are totally incompetent at every facet of their jobs run almost everything and they shriek like banshees when challenged. George Lucas is a narcissistic passive-aggressive autist with plenty of incompetence in him, but plenty of competence as well. There's a balance. Disney's balance on Star Wars is like 95% incompetent autism 5% Mandalorian.
 
The main problem of modern society is narcissistic autists who are totally incompetent at every facet of their jobs run almost everything and they shriek like banshees when challenged. George Lucas is a narcissistic passive-aggressive autist with plenty of incompetence in him, but plenty of competence as well. There's a balance. Disney's balance on Star Wars is like 95% incompetent autism 5% Mandalorian.

The Prequels were dogshit films to watch, but the use of green screen and the universe it built was fantastic to young-me
While I'll never argue that they were good movies, the Disney trilogy makes me view the Prequels in a more favourable light.
Even with George's autistic dialogue and need to explain the unnecessary, they at least broke ground and didn't come from some soulless greed for profits (But George knew how to market, he made a damn fortune from those clone figures and the like).

I can't say the same for the Disney Trilogy, created to milk an audience while at the same time spiting them in pursuit of the mythical multi-demographic hit.
 
Does it even really matter at this point if there was a plan or not? Like seriously, I watched TFA like other people did and was so repulsed by it that I was thoroughly sure that things could only get worse, and they did. I just knew it from my gut and personal experience (and maybe also being reminded of the bad taste left after watching Crystal Skull).

Either they had no plan to begin with or they came up with an ungodly plan. Either way the sequels suck, end of story.
 
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