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Another city that's seemingly been quiet is Baltimore, I figured Baltimore would've been popping off with BLM shit.



They must deny reality, even if their internal polls are screaming that things are going badly, they cannot and will not accept a Trump victory even if he wins with a landslide including the popular vote. If reality isn't reality then they can just continue flinging shit about Nazis and dictators and whatever the fuck else comes to mind.



And Dan Rather continues his TDS spiral, straight up calling Americans dumb that vote for Trump. I remember at one point I used to hear Rather get compared frequently to Walter Cronkite but then he fucked up with the Killian documents and his career just disappeared in a puff of smoke and hell I'm not even a fan of Cronkite as I think he was insipid in spreading negative news about Vietnam to demoralize the citizenry.
Same with Memphis. I've heard from friends there that BLM is trying to start things, but it's been quiet.
 
Another excellent argument for ending you-got-squirted-out-on-American-soil citizenship.

And the whole thing hinges on a deliberate misreading of the 14th amendment that's been perpetuated by the Supreme Court since the passage of the amendment.


The issue is avoided and downplayed though because Repubs want cheap labor and Dems want it to form a bigger voting bloc. There aren't many things we should borrow from our Euro cousins but not having birthright citizenship is one of the smarter moves many of them had codified into law.
 
The fact that liberals bring this up all the time is because they're obsessed with other people's dingdongs.
It goes back to Freud and the Great Black Dick Hoax. Not sure if Freud himself put this idea forward but he laid the groundwork to make such puerile bullshit "intellectual". It meshes quite well with the far-left's over-arching theory that the world is run by people like Lord Farquad from Shrek, entitled privileged fuckers who do everything in their power to suppress anyone who could be better than they are.
 
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And the whole thing hinges on a deliberate misreading of the 14th amendment that's been perpetuated by the Supreme Court since the passage of the amendment.


The issue is avoided and downplayed though because Repubs want cheap labor and Dems want it to form a bigger voting bloc. There aren't many things we should borrow from our Euro cousins but not having birthright citizenship is one of the smarter moves many of them had codified into law.
I think its time for America to do a Japan and lock up the country. No more new people coming in until we fix our shit. You can leave but dont come back if you do.
 
Which countries did worse in deaths per capita? Or is America's death count inflated by TDS doctors trying to fuel the narrative?
Let's see... according to the WHO itself:

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Source: https://covid19.who.int/table
(Definitely can't archive this one, it requires a bit of tweaking on the table itself to have it show the cumulative total per 1 million population.)

San Marino can be safely ignored since it has a population of only 35 thousand people (edit: same with Andorra. Forgot about them). Everybody else, well... India is currently climbing hard as they lose control of the situation, but since they have a huge population they might never actually reach the top 10 per 1 million.

As for our numbers... yes, US numbers are inflated, but by how much no one really knows. The news that COVID was the sole responsible for only 6% of deaths were misleading: yes, there are some ridiculous things like someone dying in a motorcycle crash and being listed as dead from COVID because he tested positive post-mortem, but in general when you have a cardio-respiratory viral infection like that, it can really fuck you up for a while and leave you vulnerable to opportunistic infections or pre-existing conditions. So while you're technically not dead due to COVID directly, you wouldn't be dead if you hadn't caught it.

Anyway, no point in doing a deep analysis on it, I think there's already a thread on the Happenings forum about it.
 
Let's see... according to the WHO itself:

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Source: https://covid19.who.int/table
(Definitely can't archive this one, it requires a bit of tweaking on the table itself to have it show the cumulative total per 1 million population.)

San Marino can be safely ignored since it has a population of only 35 thousand people. Everybody else, well... India is currently climbing hard as they lose control of the situation, but since they have a huge population they might never actually reach the top 10 per 1 million.

As for our numbers... yes, US numbers are inflated, but by how much no one really knows. The news that COVID was the sole responsible for only 6% of deaths were misleading: yes, there are some ridiculous things like someone dying in a motorcycle crash and being listed as dead from COVID because he tested positive post-mortem, but in general when you have a cardio-respiratory viral infection like that, it can really fuck you up for a while and leave you vulnerable to opportunistic infections or pre-existing conditions. So while you're technically not dead due to COVID directly, you wouldn't be dead if you hadn't caught it.

Anyway, no point in doing a deep analysis on it, I think there's already a thread on the Happenings forum about it.
What does the US rate look like if you factor out NY, and NJ who had over a 1k per capita which is 3x , 4x than Florida, Texas, ect.?
 
What does the US rate look like if you factor out NY, and NJ who had over a 1k per capita which is 3x , 4x than Florida, Texas, ect.?
If I got my back-of-the-napkin calculations right (and I'm an engineer, so don't expect me to get anything right without a CAD program and at least two hours), removing the states of New York and New Jersey as a whole, as the vast majority of cases come from the same metro area, would take us down to ~440 deaths per 1 million.

If you're looking at the table itself, 440 deaths per 1 million would put us Between Colombia and the Netherlands, with almost 144,000 deaths.

Not great, not terrible. And of course, this all relies on reported numbers. I seriously doubt Russia only has 18,600 cases right now. Or that Iran only had 23,000 cases.

Wheeling this back to TDS... well... Orange Man Bad even though he's the head of the federal government and some of the states and cities really fucked up, yadda yadda yadda.
 
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If God hates Republicans and Trump so much why doesn’t he smite them or why did he even create them?

You could say that God isn't a respecter of persons, that He looks at us all the same equally. However try to say that to a bunch of leftist monkeys they'll argue that God isn't anything but a Deity that our forefathers worshipped that causes nothing but trouble.
 
20 years is not "temporary," it's nearly a generation's time. This also means there could very well be a bunch of Anchor Dreamers used to make this ruling pointless.
I think they'd have to have already signed up for the deferred action to be able to do enjoy that anchor dreamer status.


And a quick google search says the federal government isn't accepting new applications, though it is accepting renewals due to a court order.
PHOENIX – The federal government is currently not accepting new applications for protection under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, despite a federal court’s order Friday that it resume doing so.

A U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services spokesperson said Monday that “Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Justice are reviewing the court decision, and USCIS has no further comment at this time.”

The order Friday by U.S. District Court Judge Paul Grimm in Maryland came almost a month after the Supreme Court overturned the Trump administration’s plan to eliminate DACA. The Obama-era program deferred deportation for undocumented immigrants who were brought to this country as children, and granted them work, driving and other privileges.

The high court’s ruling involved a different set of challenges to the administration plan than the one Grimm ruled on. But he referenced the Supreme Court when he vacated the administration’s move to get rid of DACA and ordered the policy restored to its status “pre-September 5, 2017” – the day then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced that DACA would be phased out.

But immigration attorneys said Monday that hasn’t happened – yet.

USCIS, the agency that processes DACA applications, said on its website that it is only accepting DACA renewals, not new applications. And it has not laid out the process for taking new applications should it decide – or be forced – to do so.

So I don't think the TPS people have an option here unless they tried getting citizenship, which many may not have bothered with as there was no sign that their status was changing any time soon.
 
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Looking at a chart from a bit ago, Spain did pretty poorly along with the UK. Things for the US never really got at terrible as it was in some of these places and then plateaued.
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I've been telling people about the numbers problem the US has. Namely, that we're fucking huge. We're the third most populous nation in the world, behind China and India. And we're a free society that's actually somewhat efficient.

China is an authoritarian shithole where they could literally have you shot for leaving your apartment block during quarantine, and they definitely haven't reported their numbers truthfully. India tried to lock down early on but they're losing their grip on it and now their numbers are spiking. No matter how you cut it, there's no way to have so many people in a nation and not have ugly numbers to show for it.

Now let's look at it objectively. Currently, we're at almost 6.5 million reported cases of COVID-19. That is almost exactly 2% of our population reported as being infected. With those numbers, the lethality rate is ~3%. The number of infected is likely a lot higher because we just can't test everybody like many (much smaller) European nations and South Korea did, but the number of dead by COVID is likely close to the truth because anything we miss gets compensated by how much the numbers get bloated by the odd motorcycle crash. So lethality is closer to 2%, if not lower.

The Spanish Flu infected about one third of the entire world population. One third. We haven't reached one tenth yet. We're around two tenths of one tenth. There's not much Trump (or Hillary, if she were in power) could have done. This is a viral infection with respiratory symptoms and a long latency and incubation period. It's going to spread no matter how hard you lock shit down. It's important to take measures against it, absolutely. But this shit got politicized because... again, Orange Man Bad.

I'm not going to say we should be cheering and holding great rallies to celebrate our pre-emptive defeat of COVID-19. This thing is going to be running through America for a long time and we'll be feeling its effects (both in terms of public health and the economy) even longer, and trying to be more sanitary (wash your fucking hands!) and social-distance-y is a good idea regardless. But all told Trump didn't do nearly as bad as he could, and definitely not nearly as bad as people say he did.

Edit: derp. Got the percentage of infected wrong (seriously, don't trust me with a calculator). The point should still stand, though.
 
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The number of infected is likely a lot higher because we just can't test everybody like many (much smaller) European nations and South Korea did
I'm still skeptical about whether this happened. If I remember right a few places tested people at airports then asked them to quarantine until the test came back, but I've never seen evidence of everyone (or even a large percent) of any country getting tested.

For instance, Italy just came up with some of their numbers based on a sample group.

The Health Ministry and the national statistics agency based their assessment on tests performed May 25-July 15 on a sample of nearly 65,000 Italians selected for their location, age and type of work.

The way that testing appears to be done in most of Europe is the same as in the US, they have some locations opened up that people volunteer to get tested at. The most the governments do to compel people to get tested is to do the same as the US and simply ask. None of these countries are doing anything especially different regarding testing than the US, except maybe handing out vouchers in places like France for a free test while many nurses take off for vacation.

It's why a lot of the data on cases is likely meaningless in comparison to hospitalization rates or even death rates. No country is testing everyone as it isn't feasible.
 
I've been telling people about the numbers problem the US has. Namely, that we're fucking huge. We're the third most populous nation in the world, behind China and India. And we're a free society that's actually somewhat efficient.

China is an authoritarian shithole where they could literally have you shot for leaving your apartment block during quarantine, and they definitely haven't reported their numbers truthfully. India tried to lock down early on but they're losing their grip on it and now their numbers are spiking. No matter how you cut it, there's no way to have so many people in a nation and not have ugly numbers to show for it.

Now let's look at it objectively. Currently, we're at almost 6.5 million reported cases of COVID-19. That is almost exactly 2% of our population reported as being infected. With those numbers, the lethality rate is ~3%. The number of infected is likely a lot higher because we just can't test everybody like many (much smaller) European nations and South Korea did, but the number of dead by COVID is likely close to the truth because anything we miss gets compensated by how much the numbers get bloated by the odd motorcycle crash. So lethality is closer to 2%, if not lower.

The Spanish Flu infected about one third of the entire world population. One third. We haven't reached one tenth yet. We're around two tenths of one tenth. There's not much Trump (or Hillary, if she were in power) could have done. This is a viral infection with respiratory symptoms and a long latency and incubation period. It's going to spread no matter how hard you lock shit down. It's important to take measures against it, absolutely. But this shit got politicized because... again, Orange Man Bad.

I'm not going to say we should be cheering and holding great rallies to celebrate our pre-emptive defeat of COVID-19. This thing is going to be running through America for a long time and we'll be feeling its effects (both in terms of public health and the economy) even longer, and trying to be more sanitary (wash your fucking hands!) and social-distance-y is a good idea regardless. But all told Trump didn't do nearly as bad as he could, and definitely not nearly as bad as people say he did.

Edit: derp. Got the percentage of infected wrong (seriously, don't trust me with a calculator). The point should still stand, though.
A judge just struck down lockdown orders in PA as unConsitituional. (because duh)

Trump went on a warpath of tweets!
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I'm not gonna try to keep up with the tweets he's putting out, but this retweeted video caught my eye:
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