U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

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Pretty sure the average police helo pilot doesn't have them, but diffusive cockpit glass & crew helmets with integral HUDs actively shielded against lasing have been in use for the last ten years or so, especially on high-value military helos.

If there's a gunship or CIC bird in the air, all an optical laser will do is paint them for ordnance or interdiction.
So I guess they will call it the "Laser of martyrdom" then. This seems to be the running theme of the rioters "Hit us! Hit us! Show us how facism really works!"
 
We have them. They were licensed by Avro to McDonnell-Douglas and were manufactured for the Marines.

Had. They’ve all been mothballed for a few years now. I don’t think an F-35 could suck them in like a Harrier would? Maybe a low pass with an Osprey with the rotors in ginsu mode?
 
I'm going to be marked dumb and shit but I'm all for seeing how deescalation tactics work. I'm not going to laugh at this. It's a similar idea to what's used when someone is on a rooftop trying to commit suicide, or even someone holding a hostage. I've been supportive of this a long time, not using deescalation exclusively but when the situation warrants it. Not the same situation as in this news article, but we've all seen cops act like douchebags trying to get a rise out of someone so they can arrest them or something. One of my main complaints about American policing is how much cops willingly escalate shit.

If someone is in a rage it's best to try to talk them down first, but not at the expensive of the safety of the cops or people around, of course. We DO need improvements to American policing, vast ones, and it's not "defunding the police."

A question nobody is asking regarding the Floyd death--let's presume kneeling on him did kill him. We all accuse the police officer, but he's an employee doing his job. We don't know how he was TRAINED. He very well may have been trained in that way. But the cities are not going to stand up for cops in this way because it's easier, less costly, and has less political ramifications for mayors and elected officials to blame the individual and not how they're running things.

I agree that some training in softer tactics or more of an understanding of mental health would be beneficial for how police interact with those who are about to or in the process of committing what is a crime according to the letter of the law. But guess what? That takes MORE funding, MORE staff, MORE care when trying to update police standards. The defund the police movement is antithetical to this. So the police are caught between a rock and a hard place. You half a crowd of twitterati convincing their own echo chambers that primarily defunding the police is a reform that needs to be accomplished, while you have normal people saying they need to be able to do things that require more funding.

That dissonance is what causes people in Minneapolis to now look around and say "Where the fuck are the police?" How can they do anything, much less all the shit you want them to do, when they're being defunded and put on the cross for every single mistake/bad decision? To get the "reform" (which I don't like rhetorically, since it's not really the police that need to be reformed, just updated) you have to give them more funding, but that's an untenable position thanks to BLM/antifa/DNC bullshit. There's literally no solution in the Overton window of these democrat principalities that will solve any issue with policing.

Had. They’ve all been mothballed for a few years now. I don’t think an F-35 could suck them in like a Harrier would? Maybe a low pass with an Osprey with the rotors in ginsu mode?

There's a scene in Catch 22 which addresses your concerns perfectly, though I'm not sure a B25 could buzz a city block effectively.
 
I agree that some training in softer tactics or more of an understanding of mental health would be beneficial for how police interact with those who are about to or in the process of committing what is a crime according to the letter of the law. But guess what? That takes MORE funding, MORE staff, MORE care when trying to update police standards. The defund the police movement is antithetical to this. So the police are caught between a rock and a hard place. You half a crowd of twitterati convincing their own echo chambers that primarily defunding the police is a reform that needs to be accomplished, while you have normal people saying they need to be able to do things that require more funding.

That dissonance is what causes people in Minneapolis to now look around and say "Where the fuck are the police?" How can they do anything, much less all the shit you want them to do, when they're being defunded and put on the cross for every single mistake/bad decision? To get the "reform" (which I don't like rhetorically, since it's not really the police that need to be reformed, just updated) you have to give them more funding, but that's an untenable position thanks to BLM/antifa/DNC bullshit. There's literally no solution in the Overton window of these democrat principalities that will solve any issue with policing.

And let's face it, defund the police has nothing to do with BLM on the face of it.

It's really just anarchists using racial tensions to get what they want. They hate the police ideologically. This is why this is such a big deal and why I don't get why some people don't see that. You have cities literally giving in to anarchist talking points and ideology. Right now. In America. No hyperbole or exaggeration.
 
Wasn't Aunt Jemima cancelled back when all this started? I got some Aunt Jemima brand corn meal the other day, complete with her picture. Did someone have a common sense attack?
I noticed that aswell, though only on grocery store carries it now in my town, the others pulled it. Maybe it was a publicity stunt to get people wanting it
They're changing it at the END of 2020.
 
Had. They’ve all been mothballed for a few years now. I don’t think an F-35 could suck them in like a Harrier would? Maybe a low pass with an Osprey with the rotors in ginsu mode?

Hell, all they need is a couple CH-47s to do a combat ingress & hard hover at fastrope level; the rotorwash from a pair of Shithooks doing that can flip a fucking Toyota HiLux, just imagine what'd happen with a mass of antifa wearing hoodies & backpacks, along with shields, signs, skateboards and everything else becoming projectiles.
 
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Or have a man in the home? But, I don't know that's so patriarchal.

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Maybe, if we show the American people that other countries are doing things differently they will change their parenting habits.

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Americans truly have turned away from everything that made us a successful society. Oh well... maybe the next great civilization will figure something out.
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There's an important legal term that covers the protesters' complaint: malas nimis fero -- too fucking bad. It falls under the doctrine of sugit vos esse, sucks to be you.
I don't speak Latin pls help
Good, it is all people ripping on the City Council clowns.
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COMPLETE THE SENTENCE LADS. IT'S NOT A GRAVE...
 
To mention something that was mentioned earlier on in the thread, based on the DHS putting out those reports on EMP readiness. An electromagnetic pulse can also be emitted from the sun, there was actually a lot of speculation in the early 2010's about the possibility of an EMP from a solar flare that could potentially wipe out the power grid in the continental United States with in the next decade or so. Solar flares are actually a remarkably insane threat to our grid and there are many ways that with modern electronics we can retrofit the grid to sustain that level of damage. Seeing the activity on the sun currently is at a solar minimum, and the crop cycles are actually fucked up right now tells you the impact that the sun can have on the planet. Now whether or not there is a flare anytime soon is really only a matter of readiness, and seeing the abysmal response to the China-Virus, I am not optimistic for that scenario.

I don't think it would be in China's best interest to initiate that scale of a conflict, just generally because they would be glass in the matter of a couple of hours. The fantastical notion of, "what if they use a nuke?" Is a bit ridiculous to any sane individual, in this generation of warfare it's more of the form that we have been seeing being engaged between nations by proxy. So it doesn't make it fairly difficult to believe that the CCP is funneling money into BLM, especially because of all of the bad press they where getting over Hong Kong, before the Fetynal Floyd Protests broke out.

In regards to the White House demonstrations that are going to start today, I think that today is only the beginning of what they are gearing for before the election. I think this is there way of beginning to shift the narrative to what their goal was since the very beginning of the "peaceful protests," which is getting the evil orange man out power. This is probably a play to try to get Trump to call the Insurrection Act before the election to shift the polls more in Biden's favor, considering that the Orange Man has had a considerable lead over the last month since Biden's various blunders. I am thinking that it is probably going to mirror what we seen back in June when they tried it the first time, instead they are going to encamp themselves again. I don't think it's a nothing burger necessarily, whether or not they last 50 days is going to be a testament in itself. They barely could hold the autonomous zone after a couple weeks of that LARP, and they could barely could keep ground in DC last time.

If in their DOSA's they are discussing the tactical deployment of LRAD's, I think that they would be better off to start deploying ultra-sonic weapons before deploying that type of device. Just for the reason of the noise is a fucking excellent deterrent and has been proven to work against these type of unhinged assholes. I think the optics at this point would still look pretty bad if the law enforcement began utilizing LRAD's at this stage in the game. If we get to the point of the Insurrection Act getting called, then perhaps we might see the toys starting to get broken out.

Aside from some of my assessments of the current discussions and happenings, the most bizzare thing happened yesterday. This will be refereeing to the controversial element that the media ignores of black on white racism, which I think is important to point out in this stage of the thread. Yesterday, my Mom went out for a walk in the neighborhood after seeing some of my relatives, and ended up having an very unpleasant confrontation between two joggers on their bicycles. None of the people outside helped her out and didn't believe that she was getting harassed by these two fuckers. They gave the whole fuck whitey sentiment as well. Luckily a clerk at the store managed to help her out, but they where threatening her with physical harm. The cops managed to say they'll keep an eye out, but nothing more happened. I almost ended up going for a bit of a cruise with my baseball bat to go gorilla knocking. To be honest, I am pretty fucking angry at the entitlement of these people, and I am even more angry at the flames getting stoked by fucking retarded normies.

I dealt with a lot of the racism living in Metro-Detroit, and there are a lot of racist blacks out there. This is how come when people give me the business about using the word nigger, not only that I tell them some stories of what I experienced, but also the context of how I use that term. It is not that I am prejudiced against blacks, not all blacks are like that, only the under-educated, thug life type of fuckers. Whites are a lot like that too, we have our own niggers, they tend to live in the same type of squalor, and are all methed out. That term can be applied to any race, I don't think there really is a better term to use, because nigger holds a lot of weight in that context of what could be considered as sub-human scum. The fact that black culture hijacked that term to embrace that mentality, shows the social conditioning of their victim complex.

Some people's lives completely revolve around getting the orange man out of office. He is the true evil. I tried pointing this out to a successful and well-educated individual. Even though she recognized that it is unhealthy to obsess about him, she continued to try to pressure me to get him out of his office several times by voting. Some of these people are sick.

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What about the single mother? Why default to the male? Maybe the mother is a violent retard.

Because men are definitely more prone to violence. Women generally don't have issues with violent outburst. (s/Generalizations and sexism is bad.)
 
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And uhh, if you can't tell that I'm absolutely mad as fuck about the fuckwits handling everything, yes, I am extremely mad. Hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths. And these goddamn fucks are playing political games out of it, because of course they would, they're politicians.
I think you give them too much credit and humanity. Just imagine how much money NY pays out in pension and medicare/medicaid and other state benefits. Now imagine the spreadsheet balance after covid ripped through and annihilated the elderly population.

Suddenly theres a lot more black instead of red and somebody knew what they were doing. Epstein didn't kill himself.

Just saying I expect the worst from politicians and I'm usually not surprised.
 
Looks like the FBI Director is giving the left all the talking points they want today.

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Politico article here, and it's like Twitter's fever dream come true.

In testimony to the Homeland Security Committee, Wray also diverged from Trump’s claim that “antifa” is a terrorist organization. Rather, Wray said antifa is “more of an ideology or a movement than an organization” and though there has been violence by some who self-identify as antifa, it has not appeared to be part of a central organization.

“Antifa is a real thing,” Wray said. “But it’s not an organization or a structure.”

Under questioning from Rep. Elissa Slotkin (D-Mich.), Wray indicated that white supremacist violence is the largest portion of what he described as the most significant domestic terrorism threat in the country: “racially motivated violent extremism.”

Though racially motivated violence is a broader term that encompasses multiple ideologies, he said “people ascribing to some white supremacy type of ideology is certainly the largest chunk of that.”

I've been documenting shit in this thread for 5000 pages and doing my own research offsite. It's a truly bizarre feeling to read through his testimony and get the feeling that I am more informed and more correct than the Director of the FBI.

I'm not joking, this guy is either lying through his teeth or the glow boys simply aren't tracking the same people and digging through comms like the super evil spooks we think they are.

The headline bit is more mUh rUsSiA fodder for the TDS crowd.

FBI Director Christopher Wray on Thursday described “very active efforts” by Russia to interfere in the 2020 election, primarily by working to damage former Vice President and Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden.

Wray said Russians have been using social media, as well as “proxies, state media, online journals" and other vehicles to hurt Biden and what it views as anti-Russian factions in U.S. politics.

He gets Q Anon mostly correct, at least.

Under questioning from lawmakers, Wray also characterized Qanon as “a sort of complex set of conspiracy theories” that has, at times, inspired violent acts. Believers, some of whom have won congressional primary elections, have embraced outlandish, baseless claims — some rooted in antisemitic tropes — about a secret cabal of Satan worshipping government leaders running an international child sex ring. Its adherents have characterized Trump as a hero fighting to put a stop to it.

Wray said the FBI doesn’t investigate any particular set of beliefs but would pursue any violence that might stem from it. “I don’t think we’ve seen lethal attacks involving that kind of motivation,” he added.

Funny how the Dems are suddenly bootlickers for the FBI now.
 
Folks, no need to fight. Solves nothing. Would much rather see your comments on the present issue. Have provided food for thought.

Added: Here's the Willamette Week story. Andy Ngo has more guts than a slaughterhouse. The terrorists' whining and complaining are epic.


Portland Protesters Say Their Lives Were Upended by the Posting of Their Mug Shots on a Conservative Twitter Account
What Andy Ngo is doing is legal. The mug shots are public records. And Ngo told WW that it is his “duty” to report on protesters who have been arrested.
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REPORTED AND BLOCKED: Ragina Gray says she’s received a slew of digital harassment since her mug shot was posted. (Christine Dong)

By Sophie Peel |


On Aug. 7, Black activist Ragina Gray was tackled by Portland police at a protest and charged with disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, and interfering with an officer.

That same day, conservative Portland activist Andy Ngo shared Gray's name and mug shot on Twitter.
"Gray, 30, is charged with interfering with an officer, resisting arrest and more," Ngo wrote on Twitter. "She was arrested at the violent antifa protest in Portland and quickly bailed out. Gray is frequently photographed with kids at protests and rants about white terrorism." The photo was retweeted by 475 people.



Twelve nights later, on Aug. 19, a man showed up on the doorstep of Gray's mother's eastside home. "He was sweaty and nervous looking, and he asked for Ragina by name," says Lucinda Fisher, Gray's mom. "He mentioned [Gray's] son, and I noticed he had a gun in his hand." Fisher slammed the door and called the police.

Gray's children, 9 and 4, whom she brought to protests with her prior to her arrest, fear for her life. (Way to go,
"Terrorist Mother of the Year". - JS)

"They're scared that someone's going to kill me," Gray says. "My first instinct is to say, 'No, that's not going to happen.' But there's a huge risk."

Gray has no direct evidence that Ngo's robust social media presence is the reason an armed man arrived at her mom's house.

Ngo's prominence has been catapulted by Portland's protests. He is editor-at-large at a Canadian conservative website called The Post Millennial and is also a regular guest on Fox News. Last year, he was assaulted at a Portland anti-fascist march, where masked assailants punched and kicked him in the head.

Ngo has more than 700,000 followers on Twitter, many of whom share the belief that Portland protesters are a threat to national security.

But Gray believes Ngo and his followers are watching her. And she is not the only one. WW has spoken with two others who have been arrested at Portland protests and had their names and mug shots tweeted by Ngo, and claim their lives have since been disrupted.

"We've been lying low, and to be honest, we've been staying at home with the blinds closed," says Phillip Wenzel, whose mug shot was shared by Ngo on Aug. 15. "I can get over Twitter trolls, but what gives me the most pause is the 1% of them that have genuine threats."

Critics call Ngo's posts "doxxing," or posting personal information about people to make their lives unpleasant.

But what Ngo is doing is legal. The mug shots are public records. The arrests happened. And Ngo told WW that it is his "duty" to report on protesters who have been arrested, "given the risk that violence and riots present to the public."
Ngo wrote WW via email: "I believe my duty as a journalist includes informing the public about individuals who are believed by criminal authorities to be sufficiently dangerous to the public that they meet the standard for arrest."

Andy Ngo in 2017. (Thomas Teal)

Andy Ngo in 2017. (Thomas Teal)

Portland couple Erin and Phillip Wenzel started their evening Friday, Aug. 14, as they have more than 10 times before that.

They donned their protest outfits: full gas respirators, masks, bike helmets, and a bulletproof vest for Philip, who had been in the front of protests as part of the drum line. Erin, a medic toting a first aid kit, usually settled in a few rows behind the line of drummers.

That night, Phillip was arrested when the two of them were sandwiched between two lines of officers during a smoke-filled, chaotic confrontation captured on video that shows several protesters cowering under yellow shields as cops push them to the ground.

A video of Wenzel's interaction with police shows him shielding his face on the ground as a half-dozen cops tackle him. He was arrested, charged with assaulting a police officer, resisting arrest, interfering with police, and disorderly conduct, and released the next day.

The next morning, Ngo posted his mug shot on his Twitter account, writing that Wenzel was "arrested at the violent #antifa protest."

Ngo also posted a biography of Wenzel from the law firm where he works as a paralegal. In Twitter responses on the thread, users added threatening comments and more personal information about the Wenzels, including the names and ages of members of his extended family.

One comment read, "I'm writing a letter to his employer right now." Another wrote, "Divorce and custody court paralegal scumbag who isn't even smart enough to be an attorney. Lol."

The Wenzels quickly deactivated all their social media accounts: Twitter, Instagram, Facebook.

The next day, Phillip Wenzel received a voicemail threat on his cellphone from somebody named John in Michigan, who said, "I'll have you know I'm 7 foot and 280 pounds."

The Wenzels alerted their employers. On Aug. 18, three days after Ngo posted the mug shot, Phillip Wenzel's boss at Elizabeth Christy Law Firm sent him a letter that the firm had received 50 threatening or harassing communications since his arrest.

"Because you have chosen to engage in activism that has resulted in violence, physical injuries, and negative publicity for [the law firm], there is now a major distraction from the business we are doing, a threat to my ability to gain new business, and a threat to our employees' safety," Christy wrote in an email provided to WW.

Three employees, after learning of the firm's response to Wenzel's arrest, announced their resignation in support of him on Sept. 10, in a letter shared with WW. The firm told Wenzel in a Sept. 11 letter that he would be laid off effective Sept. 16, citing a loss of work leading to a reduction in staff. Elizabeth Christy, managing attorney at the firm, told WW in an email that the layoff had nothing to do with Wenzel's protesting.

Both Wenzels say they now suffer from anxiety. Wenzel shaved his beard to change his appearance and now wears a hat when he walks his dog.

April Epperson, who works at a Northeast Portland public school, is another protester who was arrested for disorderly conduct and interfering with a peace officer on Aug. 24 and was greeted that same day by a Ngo tweet sharing her mug shot and Facebook profile picture with part of the caption reading, "Like others recently arrest[ed], she works with children at an elementary school." Several commenters on the subsequent Twitter thread shared the name of the school.

On Aug. 29, an email arrived in her school inbox: Attached were her Facebook profile photo and a picture of a toad in a dress with a caption reading, "So fucking badass with your face covered? We can't wait to come to your employer and do the exact same fucking thing you do to cops!"

Epperson alerted the school about the email. That weekend, the school canceled a laptop distribution event scheduled the following Monday, Aug. 31. A school text blast sent to families read, "We are pausing [device distribution] for tomorrow. We will resume as soon as possible and alert you when that is. As a reminder, school grounds, including the playground, are closed."

Although the school did not explain its decision, Epperson believes the laptop distribution was postponed because of threats. (Portland Public Schools didn't respond to WW's request for comment.) Still, the messages continued. "The school started getting a bunch of phone calls and emails," Epperson says. "People emailed [some staff members] my mug shot and told them I was arrested."

One email, sent Sept. 1 from a secure email address using the name "Jennifer Hartless" and shared with WW, includes a screenshot of Ngo's tweet of Epperson's mug shot. The photo is captioned, "This type of behavior seems a little unbecoming for a school teacher. Are standards any higher than this?"

Tim Gleason, professor of journalism at the University of Oregon, says Ngo's posts of mug shots are dangerous because of his targeted audience.

"There's some (Bitch, please! First Amendment works for everyone, right? - JS) legitimacy to a claim of informing the public. But we have a pattern with this individual that his interest is in provoking violent reactions and doxxing," says Gleason. "It's a particular subset of conservative Twitter, and he knows that's who he's talking to."

In his response to questions from WW, Ngo contends he is taking on violent criminals that other journalists are afraid to confront.

"If you feel that transparency and public right to know should be outweighed by arrestee rights to privacy, this is a complaint for the Legislature, not for journalists reporting in compliance with state and federal law," he said. "A better question would be, 'Why do some journalists feel compelled to hide the identities of suspected criminals from the public?' Another would be, 'Whose interests does the suppression of criminal arrest data serve?'"

Ragina Gray continues to attend protests, despite threatening messages she receives on Instagram and Twitter. She says she deletes them as soon as she gets them, but says "people are calling me a terrorist, calling me a n—–." And the messengers, she says, are "Mostly white men. All white men." (Hey, they could have made you "strange fruit" in front of your kids. Get the message. Behave. - JS)



yeah you faggots don't like it when the sword of Cancel Culture starts cutting in YOUR direction, do ya
 
Some people's lives completely revolve around getting the orange man out of office. He is the true evil. I tried pointing this out to a successful and well-educated individual. Even though she recognized that it is unhealthy to obsess about him, she continued to try to pressure me to get him out of his office several times by voting. Some of these people are sick.

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Because men are definitely more prone to violence. Women generally don't have issues with violent outburst. (s/Generalizations and sexism is bad.)
Utter fucking garbage. Women are actually MORE prone to violence, and responsible for initiating the majority of mutual assault domestic violence. Women comprise the majority of single assaulter DV cases, as well., though they are drastically undercharged, due to almost every jurisdiction using flawed and misandrist Duluth Model of DV assessment A case of privilege run amok.
 
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