Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

I think the thing with Jamie's story is if the event itself is considered per se defamation. It certainly seems like some kind of battery (painful head yank, physical restraint, some kind of sexual whisper, and needing to physically fight off Vic for him to release her), but I guess that's up to the court. Alternatively, if it's not per se, can Vic link her statements to damage? Vic's declaration did have an argument for damages, so there's that.

If it does get past TCPA, I see her folding quickly. More than anyone she doesn't have the finances to fight this lawsuit.

This is what I hope the appeals court realizes about this. There are objective differences of great legal significance between Marchi's story and Vic's. If Marchi is telling the truth, Vic literally committed a crime for which he could be jailed. If she is lying, she is accusing him falsely of a crime. In Vic's recounting of events, he did nothing for which he could even be sued, much less prosecuted.
 
This is what I hope the appeals court realizes about this. There are objective differences of great legal significance between Marchi's story and Vic's. If Marchi is telling the truth, Vic literally committed a crime for which he could be jailed. If she is lying, she is accusing him falsely of a crime. In Vic's recounting of events, he did nothing for which he could even be sued, much less prosecuted.

See, I really don't think Marchi even realizes the severity of what she accused him of. Because it didn't happen, she didn't visualize it and think through exactly what she was accusing him of. Thus why on every retelling it always gets simplified down to 'he pulled her hair', even to the point where she and Sam try to claim Vic admitted to her accusation purely on the basis of him admitting to gently tugging at it. What she actually accused him of is much worse than what she acts like she accused him of.
 
See, I really don't think Marchi even realizes the severity of what she accused him of. Because it didn't happen, she didn't visualize it and think through exactly what she was accusing him of. Thus why on every retelling it always gets simplified down to 'he pulled her hair', even to the point where she and Sam try to claim Vic admitted to her accusation purely on the basis of him admitting to gently tugging at it. What she actually accused him of is much worse than what she acts like she accused him of.
KickVic people finally realized that, too.

Now that they realize that the TCPA rules any factual discrepancy in favor of the plaintiff, you see the loudest narrative to be vIc aDmItTeD To eVeRyThInG! and try to use Vic's admission that he touched or tugged Jamie's hair to be the battery-esque story she claimed.
 
KickVic people finally realized that, too.

Now that they realize that the TCPA rules any factual discrepancy in favor of the plaintiff, you see the loudest narrative to be vIc aDmItTeD To eVeRyThInG! and try to use Vic's admission that he touched or tugged Jamie's hair to be the battery-esque story she claimed.

They do, but it's based off of pretending that what she accused him of was 'painfully yanking her hair', so that they can claim it's a mere interpretation thing. They just gloss over the actual details of the accusation so they can pretend those other details don't exist.
 
See, I really don't think Marchi even realizes the severity of what she accused him of. Because it didn't happen, she didn't visualize it and think through exactly what she was accusing him of. Thus why on every retelling it always gets simplified down to 'he pulled her hair', even to the point where she and Sam try to claim Vic admitted to her accusation purely on the basis of him admitting to gently tugging at it. What she actually accused him of is much worse than what she acts like she accused him of.

In Marchi's description of events, Vic jerked her head back after grabbing her by the hair, something that if true could have led to serious injury either by causing a fall or just literally by trauma to the neck.
 
Yeah, that's like CNN and the other Sandmann defendents being pulled back in on the basis that claiming Sandmann obstructed the Injun chief could be defamatory. If Marchi is the only one pulled back in I'm going to laugh my ass off.
If Jamie gets pulled back, so does Monica.

Monica made a descriptive factual statement that Vic tried to give her the Lasagna Lovin' in his hotel room. If claiming someone pinned you down to the bed, forcibly kissed you, and didn't let up until someone knocked on the door isn't per se defamation, then nothing else in this case is.
 
If Jamie gets pulled back, so does Monica.

Monica made a descriptive factual statement that Vic tried to give her the Lasagna Lovin' in his hotel room. If claiming someone pinned you down to the bed, forcibly kissed you, and didn't let up until someone knocked on the door isn't per se defamation, then nothing else in this case is.

If that isn't defamation, basically nothing is.
 
I am officially going against the current zeitgeist with regards to appeals outcomes. I think that it's more likely than not that charges come back for Funi, Monica and Ron.

I think a lot of the pessimism is not wanting a repeat of the optimism leading into the TCPA hearing. It's a psychological reaction as much as, if not more than, a logical one. I also think a lot of the negativity is the line that the appeals court doesn't like to overturn the trial court.

Okay, let's say that's true. However, does the appeals court like to overturn themselves? Where there have been clear rulings from the appeals court on the matter that support Vic's case, they would have to overrule their previous decisions in order to decide against him now. Are they really going to put siding with Chupp and his total lack of legal reasoning provided in his decision over believing they were correct when they previously interpreted the law? They have a vested interest in their rulings being consistent, because if they start contradicting themselves, it's going to make it harder for the lower courts to know how to interpret the case law, and it would result in them having to face more murky appeals on the subject, and having to decide between their own contradictions in order to sort things out.

When we presumed how Chupp would rule, we had very little information on his previous rulings or his style in the courtroom. No one had provided transcripts of his previous rulings. I don't think we even dug up his history of getting writs of mandamus until after his decision. However, we have looked at some rulings provided by the court of appeals. They appear to a) be familiar with the TCPA, both the actual law and the reasoning behind the law, b) look at the documents provided them (at least the appeals briefs) and c) have a coherent, logical way of reaching their conclusions about the cases. That bodes well for Vics case.

I think defamation comes back for Ron, Monica and Funi. I think TI comes back for Ron, Monica and Funi (because Monica asked Funi what she was able to say in that email). I think prospective TI comes back for those three. I think defamation is less likely to come back for Jamie, because her statement is harder to classify as defamation per se, and there might not be enough evidence to link her directly to damages. I have no opinion one way or the other about conspiracy, but I think defamation for Jamie only comes back if conspiracy comes back.



They didn't provide physical copies ahead of time for the TCPA hearing. They brought one to the hearing, but Chupp refused to take it. There are still six days for them to submit physical copies. I think it would be a mistake for them not to. Even if it doesn't matter for the court of appeals, it matters for the court of public opinion.
I think Ron and Monica WILL come back on everything.
I think Funi WILL come back on defamation and conspiracy. They SHOULD come back on TI and TIPB.
I think Marchi probably wont come back on anything but she SHOULD come back on defamation and conspiracy.
 
I was curious about what is on record for Toye particularly the statements he made in his deposition regarding tweets/messages (in light of the appeals and the 'context' argument). At the very least you have a clear and specific admittance from Toye in the deposition that he 1) contacted a third party (Slatosch) and 2) said to the third party that Vic assaulted Rial and close friends.

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He admitted he was talking about Vic as a 'predator', there was 15 years of the same story and that 'predator' included 'sexual predator'.
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If there is any one thing Chupp did that betrayed absolute ineptitude as a judge, that was it. Asking for evidence and then refusing to take it was pure idiocy.
I think it's almost impossible to explain to people who aren't in the law how absolutely fucked the way Chup ran that hearing was. Ty could have done a better job, but I also don't think its fair to Monday morning quarter back him much at all because Chup was so far off the reservation its kind of fair to be surprised by it.
 
Vic jerked her head back after grabbing her by the hair, something that if true could have led to serious injury either by causing a fall or just literally by trauma to the neck.
how can a ball of fat fall?

I think it's almost impossible to explain to people who aren't in the law how absolutely fucked the way Chup ran that hearing was.
Its very clear, he was to lazy to do his job and trusted a fraud expert who was the lolyer of one of the parties.
the only way this would be more clear would have been the defense writing the judgment for him.
 
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This, but unironically.

You notice they all stood and clapped when Chupp 0-17'd Vic. Not a single person expressed any level of outrage when Chupp completely blew off his finding of fact request from MoRon, and only awarded them $100k, leaving roughly another $180k they have to pay their lawyers.

The point of anti-SLAPP is to prevent economic burdens on the defendants for a frivolous lawsuit filed by a vengeful plaintiff. See, even if this vindictive pedorapist was ultimately BTFO'd by the anti-SLAPP, he still forced MoRon to shell out nearly 200k to their lawyer. The plaintiff succeeded in financially burdening the defendants, and not a single person seal-clapping for Chupp cared.
 
The point of anti-SLAPP is to prevent economic burdens on the defendants for a frivolous lawsuit filed by a vengeful plaintiff. See, even if this vindictive pedorapist was ultimately BTFO'd by the anti-SLAPP, he still forced MoRon to shell out nearly 200k to their lawyer. The plaintiff succeeded in financially burdening the defendants, and not a single person seal-clapping for Chupp cared.

That extra $200K was self-inflicted. They had no reason to engage in a bunch of pointless discovery, since the whole point of a SLAPP motion is that the complaint is so frivolous on its face that it entirely fails to state a claim. If it does, any evidence more than a scintilla (like an affidavit from a party with personal knowledge) is sufficient to make out a prima facie showing. That is if the judge even knows what that is.
 
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