2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Puff]

In terms of the polls and whatnot, I don't think that RBG's passing is going to affect them. The people freaking the hell out right now are already "Vote Blue No Matter Who and Orange Man Bad" people.

The thing that is going to affect this election, in my opinion, is voter fraud. That is the only thing, as a Trump supporter, that I am greatly concerned about.

If they can delay the appointment, it's a great get-out-the-vote effort. A late October confirmation would end them though.

 

[Someone Awful]

Unsure on whenever or not this will help Trump or not.

Regardless, the die has been cast and Trump can't take it back. He has to nominate a (likely female) judge. I've heard Neomi Rao is a good one. Thoughts?

 

[Lodoss Warrior]

In terms of the polls and whatnot, I don't think that RBG's passing is going to affect them. The people freaking the hell out right now are already "Vote Blue No Matter Who and Orange Man Bad" people.

The thing that is going to affect this election, in my opinion, is voter fraud. That is the only thing, as a Trump supporter, that I am greatly concerned about.

My biggest worry when I learned of her passing was that this would drive turnout in swing states just enough so that, while Trump wins the counted votes on Election Night, the margin of victory will be slim enough for "newly discovered ballots" to believably swing it for Biden.

But, after some reflection, this may depress turnout. From my observation, despair, coupled with a lack of loyalty to your representative figure, leads to apathy. Biden simply does not have the charisma to rally the demoralized progressive voting block to prevent many of them from simply disengaging with a hopeless election.

 

[heyitsmike]

I think one underrated implication of RBG's passing is that now Biden is basically forced to come out with a SCOTUS list. And there is no way he can walk the line between appeasing the Dem base and not turning off swing voters.

Any reason why this happened, btw? Seems like it'd be wise to pack the courts and influence the nation that way through legal interpretation and precedent than relying on executive or legislative power, which has a tendency to be unruly.
I have never looked into it and was unaware of this until Trump mentioned when he got into office there were hundreds of vacancies or something absurd.

Unless Obama and his administration saw it as a boon to overload the courts or something... But that's tinfoil tier.

Let's ask Cocaine Mitch why Obama didn't fill those vacancies.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

Unsure on whenever or not this will help Trump or not.

Regardless, the die has been cast and Trump can't take it back. He has to nominate a (likely female) judge. I've heard Neomi Rao is a good one. Thoughts?

This hurts him strongly unless he pushes through the fastest nomination in US history to demoralize the Democratic base, in which case it strongly benefits him.

 

[Someone Awful]

This hurts him strongly unless he pushes through the fastest nomination in US history to demoralize the Democratic base, in which case it strongly benefits him.

Which might actually happen. Trump notably had a list of nominees ready to go less than ten days before Ginsburg died. He likely was aware her time was soon. I expect a nominee soon.

 

[Parthenos]

This hurts him strongly unless he pushes through the fastest nomination in US history to demoralize the Democratic base, in which case it strongly benefits him.

Trump's a crazy enough motherfucker to do it. He's probably also going to avoid Kavanaugh 2.0 by appointing a woman, maybe a WOC. Get a bit of extra hypocrisy in there to scare off moderate voters.

He picked Pence, I'm confident he can pick anyone with a clean(er) record.

 

[babadook]

I see people writing about Mitch and Trump using the "nuclear option", but what is this nuclear option?

 

[Parthenos]

I see people writing about Mitch and Trump using the "nuclear option", but what is this nuclear option?

Get Ginsberg's replacement in the Supreme Court by the election. If that butt is in that seat, the Dems will riot harder(?), spontaneously explode from TDS, or get too blackpilled to vote. All good outcomes, imo.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

I see people writing about Mitch and Trump using the "nuclear option", but what is this nuclear option?

Taking advantage of the fact some Democrat foolishly gutted the power of filibusters to rush judicial nominations faster than ever done historicaly.

 

[GuntPunt]

Baris has FINALLY talked about Arizona. I guess its the type of day where people just jynx things into existence.

TLDW: Maricopa is being polled as D+4 instead of R+4 which is how it is in voting registration. In order to push it to 3/8ths of a percent Democratic in 2018, they required some of the most underhanded schemes, and they only got it to D+0.375. Also it says independents are going to Biden, even though they are traditionally more conservative in Maricopa than Arizona as a whole. They are using EXTREME Dem turn out to justify this. Polling it as D+4, Baris says good luck with Presidential turnout.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

I see people writing about Mitch and Trump using the "nuclear option", but what is this nuclear option?

The Democrats changed the rules to remove the ability for the minority party (Republicans at the time) to filibuster (refuse to allow a vote / force a supermajority of like 2/3rds instead of just 50% + 1) certain things, including Judicial nominees. They did this because they were morally superior to everyone, were the only people who's opinions on things mattered, and were clearly going to be in power forever, so the GOP stopping them from doing stupid shit was clearly bad and must be prevented.

Mitch warned them this was a stupid move because they wouldn't be the majority forever. They laughed, because of COURSE they were going to be in charge forever.

Spoiler: They aren't the Majority right now, and thus all Mitch has to do is get 50% of the Senate + 1 to push a SCOTUS nominee through. And he has 54 (50% + 4) votes. Presuming 5 GOP senators don't betray Trump, they can force a SCOTUS nominee through in less than 2 months, easily.

Edit: I should point out that the way it's SUPPOSED to work is they come together, work with each other, and find something that 66% of ALL OF THEM can agree to, instead of this party line bullshit. But the Democrats have decided they are good and thus everyone who disagrees with them is evil -- and you don't negotiate or work with evil. You DESTROY evil.

 

[Illiterate Wanderer]

I think one underrated implication of RBG's passing is that now Biden is basically forced to come out with a SCOTUS list. And there is no way he can walk the line between appeasing the Dem base and not turning off swing voters.


Let's ask Cocaine Mitch why Obama didn't fill those vacancies.

I think a lot of leftists are overlooking the possibility that Biden gets in and tries to fill/expand seats only to get BTFO'd in the Senate by McConnell or whatever protégé might take his spot if McConnell dies.

 

[heyitsmike]

Spoiler: They aren't the Majority right now, and thus all Mitch has to do is get 50% of the Senate + 1 to push a SCOTUS nominee through. And he has 54 (50% + 4) votes. Presuming 5 GOP senators don't betray Trump, they can force a SCOTUS nominee through in less than 2 months, easily.

The GOP only has 53 in the Senate. They can only lose three votes.

 

[Aidan]

I think one underrated implication of RBG's passing is that now Biden is basically forced to come out with a SCOTUS list. And there is no way he can walk the line between appeasing the Dem base and not turning off swing voters.


Let's ask Cocaine Mitch why Obama didn't fill those vacancies.

I see your point but Obama had Congress on his side early on and more importantly he had the Senate for most of his time in office. Seems like if he wanted to get a bunch of judges approved he could have, but I don't know anything about the vacancy time tables or anything and I'm not going to pretend to be well versed in how it all works.
I just know it sounds like Trump walked into the Oval Office on day 1 and Mitch left a sticky note informing him how many judges needed to be appointed and Trump seized that opportunity.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

I think a lot of leftists are overlooking the possibility that Biden gets in and tries to fill/expand seats only to get BTFO'd in the Senate by McConnell or whatever protégé might take his spot if McConnell dies.

Assuming they can even get the House to do it in the first place. They assume they'll maintain a clear dem majority in the house, but it could flip much closer to 50/50, then it just takes a few reps in areas where they rely on a coalition constituency to say that court packing is way too overtly crazy to support for the plan to fall apart. The liberal's greatest flaw is their hubris.

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

I think the GEotUS and his grim Reaper should ram through a new Justice ASAP.

We all know the Democrats have plans, the least of which is the fallback option of wrangling Trump through the courts in case Biden can't find enough mail in ballots to win.

They will be much much much less likely to try to seize power by way of the courts if the outcome is a foregone conclusion.

I mean they'll get their jackboots to riot to try to press for power but they'll riot anyway in any case if Trump wins so that's a non-issue IMHO and plus if Trump is in his second term he can deal with rioters by using the Feds and not give two shits about blue cities and their crying mayor's.

Only reason to hold off is if he wants to gain some points in blue areas but that might backfire as it could ramp up Democrat turn out. If it's already a done deal it could depress Democrats as they might feel voting is futile.

 

[XYZpdq]

implication of RBG's passing is that now Biden is basically forced to come out with a SCOTUS list. And there is no way he can walk the line between appeasing the Dem base and not turning off swing voters.

good point

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

The more I think of it, the more I think that pushing a Nomination ASAP is a mistake.

What happens when Mitt "Still Butthurt he lost in 12" Romney loses his senate seat because he voted against confirmation? Or any of the other Rhinos.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT I KILLED RUTH BADER GINSBURG BY WISHING HER WELL

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/18/100306972/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-champion-of-gender-equality-dies-at-87

Fuck you Ruth, of course you had to die to sway the election in the Dems favor. Trump fill her seat now!

If its any solace, I'd take it as more you electing yo send her soul to the right place. Whether its heaven or hell is a bit hard to tell.