2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Pointless Pedant]

After the fall of the USSR we provided money, equipment, and assistance to Russia to help make sure all the nukes were corralled. Ukraine agreed to give the nukes on their soil back in exchange for a Russian promise not to interfere with their country. Didn't turn out too good for Ukraine. Want to say Belarus also agreed to give the nukes on their soil back.

It is possible to see some sort of low-level conflict here, likely shoot-outs in cities between Americans and groups like a BLM/Antifa almagam. Possible, but things would need to get much worse and law/enforcement/National Guard would have had to fail in keeping things under control. Anything big, as has been previously stated, would require other factors.

Belarus did, Kazakhstan too. The difference is that those countries are Russian allies, whereas Ukraine is opposed to them and thus ended up being attacked.

Uhuh I hope Biden never stops talking otherwise 200 million people die due to him

What exactly is the difference to Trump? Trump may speak quit coarse but everyone understand him

Reminds me of the time he said 150 million people had been shot dead in recent years. He really doesn't know numbers.

 

[tehpope]

Uhuh I hope Biden never stops talking otherwise 200 million people die due to him

What exactly is the difference to Trump? Trump may speak quit coarse but everyone understand him

He almost sounds like Neil Breen at the end.

 

[Non-breath oblige]

Memory gaffes aside, something about Biden's eyes in his speeches like this also just...weirds me off for some reason. I don't know if it's the camera or quality or struggling to see the teleprompter or what, but it looks to me like you can't see any of the whites in his eyes, like he's possessed or something. The monotony in his voice and body movement doesn't seem to help.

 

[Rykel22]

Does he have to shout in that empty room?

 

[ulsterscotsman]

I still don't get it. Why is Trump so hated? I remember Bush and how people hated him but the level of hatred for Trump is insane by comparison.

 

[Rykel22]

I still don't get it. Why is Trump so hated? I remember Bush and how people hated him but the level of hatred for Trump is insane by comparison.

Because he ruined the plan, first of Queen Hillary, then for the 1000 year Democrat rule.

 

[MrJokerRager]

I still don't get it. Why is Trump so hated? I remember Bush and how people hated him but the level of hatred for Trump is insane by comparison.

I guess part of it is old money hating on new money as Trump is part of the rich elite. But he is like a buffoon or a gatsby who made his money by being a reality TV show host. Whereas Obama and Clinton studied the dark arts to be the politicians they are.

Basically this one guy who knows jackshit about US politics just somehow became president over all these experts. And Silicon Valley became very comfortable with Obama and the democrats so they amplify these voices. Hollywood is just doing the typical GOP hate train except Trump has been in Hollywood and knows all of them very good.

The final problem are the grifters known as progressives who have just turned everything into a IDPOL struggle session.

 

[heyitsmike]

Also Nancy Pelosi is also thinking of impeachment 2.0 now just to stop Trump from nominating a judge.

The Dems saw how much impeachment fired up the Republican base.
The Dems saw how much the Kavanaugh hearings fired up the Republican base.

And they want to do both again, at the same time, a month before the election, with Trump at the top of the ballot???

This shit is madness. I still can't wrap my mind around it.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

The Dems saw how much impeachment fired up the Republican base.
The Dems saw how much the Kavanaugh hearings fired up the Republican base.

And they want to do both again, at the same time, a month before the election, with Trump at the top of the ballot???

This shit is madness. I still can't wrap my mind around it.

This is what self-assured pseudo-intellectualism combined with a complete disconnection from concrete reality causes.

 

[CrippleThreat]

I guess part of it is old money hating on new money as Trump is part of the rich elite. But he is like a buffoon or a gatsby who made his money by being a reality TV show host. Whereas Obama and Clinton studied the dark arts to be the politicians they are.

About that, I can't get enough of Hillary (feeling like The Last Stand tbh). Girl is as much of a political failure as Joe is.

If only Bill Clinton kept it in his pants, she'd probably be some in the background political lawyer, but she was magicked into the NY Senator's seat, then SoS. But who knows? Instead of SoS, she'd be the Mad Bama's AG in my scenario. But the infidelity was definitely the catalyst.

Next, the Obama Saga; if only Hillary wasn't such a dumbass during her 08' campaign, the Democrat establishment wouldn't have to voodoo rig obscure Senator Barack into the nation's limelight. Seriously, who is Barack Hussein Obama? Either way, he becomes 44 and Clinton becomes SoS, and we all know the blunders under her.

Now 2016, and she's the Democrat frontrunner, because the Democrat establishment (rightfully tbh) couldn't trust Bernie (fucking flipflopper). And the only reason she was projected to win was because "We'll I'm elite, vain, and don't like Donald Trump, so I guess the rest of everyone in a 300+ million pop. nation don't like him as well."

And at the end of it all, she's now the "crazy cat lady" screaming about Russia while her husband questions his life choices and legacy to the country. My conspiretard? Bill is counting down the time until either he gets busted for Epstein or just croaks.

tl;dr: 42 should have married Lewinsky.

 

[Imperial Citizen]

I still don't get it. Why is Trump so hated? I remember Bush and how people hated him but the level of hatred for Trump is insane by comparison.

Outside of political bias, I’d say it’s because he is an asshole. He’s offensive and has a my-way-or-the-highway attitude. To a base that feels neglected, Trump’s aggressive posturing is a sign that he is giving a middle finger to the bureaucrats and politicians that they despise. However, Trump’s incivility does piss people off, sometimes to the point where those people would take anyone else as president.

 

[Syaoran Li]

I still don't get it. Why is Trump so hated? I remember Bush and how people hated him but the level of hatred for Trump is insane by comparison.

I've said this many times before, but it bears repeating.

Part of it is because "It Was Her Turn!" from the Democrat establishment and part of it is because a lot of people are convinced he's a theocrat-adjacent neocon like Bush was. Picking Mike Pence as his VP in 2016 did him no favors on that front since he was an unknown (and more or less killed all the goodwill he had with the LGBT community prior to it) but Pence is an empty suit in a fairly powerless office more or less and knows to be quiet and diplomatic.

Meanwhile, Trump himself is not a traditionalist nor a neocon but he's also not explicitly anti-Christian like the Woke Left is, so that bloc still votes for him since he's a firm believer in keeping freedom of religion. He's also hated by the remnant neocons like Romney and the Bushes and he hates them in return as well.

The reason why the GOP lost the previous culture war wasn't because they ignored it. They just actively backed the wrong side and lost. The Religious Right did a lot of damage to the GOP and the right as a whole in the United States and they also more or less alienated women from any kind of non-progressive views completely thanks to their anti-abortion sperging.

The traditionalist faggot tryhards don't seem to get that and they won't let go of the dead weight issues because "hurr durr what are we conserving?" but the fact is that a lot of the Woke Left's hysterics are rooted in the failures of the Bush Administration and the kind of people who still supported Bush after the initial post-9/11 wave of patriotism had fully waned

 

[King Daddy Telomerase]

I still don't get it. Why is Trump so hated? I remember Bush and how people hated him but the level of hatred for Trump is insane by comparison.

Because Trump is an unabashed asshole. I usually love assholes and sometimes he's even a bit much for me and I can't believe how he's the most powerful man in the world.

I think Bush was hated by a lot more people, though. I used to post in conservative communities there and especially in the 2nd term and shortly after, they all loathed Bush. Of course, the left hated him too.

Time will definitely heal a lot of wounds, also. Trump's a populist for the most part, and I expect the left will say he wasn't that bad after a couple years.

 

[the fall of man]

Apparently the Hollywood elite and late night TV show hosts are losing their shit over this.

I believe Hollywood in its current form, is the propaganda wing of the Democratic Party if ANTIFA/BLM are the paramilitary wing. All these rich fucks who have nothing to fear from any president and most of them too old to give a fuck, are actually giving a fuck about one supreme court seat because RGB was too arrogant to leave when Obama told her that they could find a suitable younger replacement back in the day.

Also Nancy Pelosi is also thinking of impeachment 2.0 now just to stop Trump from nominating a judge.

Distracting from her careless admission that she went to an illegal church gathering and took communion, I bet. https://archive.vn/Xw1Sn

The war on terror isn't an endless quagmire, it's basically over excluding Afghanistan if the negotiations there break down and that's just an internal conflict within the country, not something that actually threatens the USA itself. Al Qaeda and ISIS were dismantled in the 2010s and while Islamic extremists certainly haven't gone away entirely nothing like 9/11 has happened since. Additionally, the USA has far more domestic oil production now, so the middle east is far less strategically relevant.

After the USA blew up Soleimani earlier this year Iran was unable to respond with anything serious. Islamic terror just isn't a concern at all for US national security anymore.

I wouldn't say that having an external enemy prevents civil war though. Russia notoriously fell to communism in the middle of being invaded by Germany.

What if coronavirus travel restrictions protected us from getting 9/11’ed while Trump set up detente in the middle east

And the left rewards us by sending out reverse Freikorps to harass normies

https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1307388618047193089

 

[Pointless Pedant]

Because Trump is an unabashed asshole. I usually love assholes and sometimes he's even a bit much for me and I can't believe how he's the most powerful man in the world.

I think Bush was hated by a lot more people, though. I used to post in conservative communities there and especially in the 2nd term and shortly after, they all loathed Bush. Of course, the left hated him too.

Time will definitely heal a lot of wounds, also. Trump's a populist for the most part, and I expect the left will say he wasn't that bad after a couple years.

Bush's approval rating was worse at the end of his term so that makes sense. The anger was a lot less visible due to Twitter not being widespread though.

 

[Bartleby]

I still don't get it. Why is Trump so hated? I remember Bush and how people hated him but the level of hatred for Trump is insane by comparison.

I think this video by EmpLemon is the best explanation I've seen on the matter, even if the title doesn't seem like it answers your question. TL;DW (from what I remember, haven't watched it in a while): Trump is hated so much because he deliberately made as many controversial remarks as he could during his presidential campaign in 2015-2016, to make the media cover every single one of these and lambast him for it constantly. That way, he wouldn't be focused on for just one controversial matter (which happens with a lot of other presidential candidates since they don't try to be inflaming), and he makes the mainstream media that would have already attacked him look deranged rather than sensible. And of course, after winning the election, the media absolutely despise him, and that results in people who trust the media despising Trump too. The question now is, if Trump's strategy (intentional or not) will save him in 2020- I personally believe that TDS sufferers are not enough to make him lose the election (but voting fraud might) and the media's reputation has at least worsened since 2016.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Reminds me of the time he said 150 million people had been shot dead in recent years. He really doesn't know numbers.

Medically speaking, getting numbers mixed up is one of the earliest signs of dementia ...

 

[Someone Awful]

Regarding Pennsylvania, um guys, bad news.

Trafalgar Group has Biden two points ahead of Trump.

Trafalgar Group is a Republican-leaning pollster where Barnes is from. While they were right about calling every state in 2016 (except maybe Nevada but I don't have the link and that state typically over represents Republicans anyway), it was by a smaller margin by states Trump won and in the case of Colorado, Clinton won by a margin at least four times as high (Clinton +1 was the prediction Trafalgar made). That means internal polling might have Trump at three or four points behind Biden and there is only a month and a half left to make up that gap. The poll was made before Ginsburg's death for your information.

It explains why Trump is doing a double week in Pennsylvania this week. Expect him to make multiple trips to the state next month. He needs to treat the state like he did Michigan in 2016. Michigan's insane "count mail in ballots two weeks after the election" rule makes it a very difficult grab like Nevada and Virginia so if Trump loses Pennsylvania, he has to get Arizona and one more of Wisconsin, Minnesota, and New Hampshire. If he fails to get Arizona, he has to get all three of the latter states. I think Trump can get enough of the anti-war votes to flip New Hampshire and I'm still optimistic on Minnesota due to Baris hinting of horrible turnout in the Twin Cities for Biden and great turnout in the Iron Range for Trump, but Wisconsin and Arizona are big asks this election.

 

[DeadFish]

The difference between now and 1968 is the American military isn't united against a common enemy like it was during the Cold War. As Big Nasty said, a hypothetical Civil War 2.0 won't be caused by a bunch of ANTIFA LARPers grabbing umbrellas and Molotovs to throw at the National Guard, but rather would be as a result of the members of the armed forces defecting into a new separatist army. That's how the American Civil War as well as other recent civil wars (i.e. Syria) started. Sure, the rebel armies had/have civilian volunteers, but they started as separatist factions from the main government armies. But back in 1968 however, the United States military was pretty united against the communists. Even through Vietnam was an unpopular war with a lot protests back home, it was doubtful for like half of the US Army to just randomly rebel and form a new fighting force to partake in a Civil War.

But, that was then, this is now...the Cold War is long over, and our army doesn't have a unified goal like it did in the 60's. It's no longer about killing those red commies anymore. Nowadays the US armed forces just serves the purpose of doing what the government wants for Israel. Although it's unlikely for our soldiers and their officers to defect and create some kind of new rebel army, it is however a lot more likely than the era of the Cold War and strong anti-communist sentiment. The War on Terror is just a meaningless quagmire at this point, and times have changed since 9/12/01 when everyone was united against Islamic terror.

What I'm saying is it's not likely, but it's certainly plausible that a large portion of soldiers could defect to a rebel army as long as a large portion of high-ranking military officers disobey Trump. That's something which would have never happened in the 60's when almost every military officer in America was against communism and wanted to wipe North Vietnam off the map.

Why do you think democrats and Marxists love affirmative action quotas?
Its no different then kbg generals being selected as American secretary of defense by Reagan during the cold war.

 

[UselessIdiot]

Regarding Pennsylvania, um guys, bad news.

Trafalgar Group has Biden two points ahead of Trump.

Trafalgar Group is a Republican-leaning pollster where Barnes is from. While they were right about calling every state in 2016 (except maybe Nevada but I don't have the link and that state typically over represents Republicans anyway), it was by a smaller margin by states Trump won and in the case of Colorado, Clinton won by a margin at least four times as high (Clinton +1 was the prediction Trafalgar made). That means internal polling might have Trump at three or four points behind Biden and there is only a month and a half left to make up that gap. The poll was made before Ginsburg's death for your information.

It explains why Trump is doing a double week in Pennsylvania this week. Expect him to make multiple trips to the state next month. He needs to treat the state like he did Michigan in 2016. Michigan's insane "count mail in ballots two weeks after the election" rule makes it a very difficult grab like Nevada and Virginia so if Trump loses Pennsylvania, he has to get Arizona and one more of Wisconsin, Minnesota, and New Hampshire. If he fails to get Arizona, he has to get all three of the latter states. I think Trump can get enough of the anti-war votes to flip New Hampshire and I'm still optimistic on Minnesota due to Baris hinting of horrible turnout in the Twin Cities for Biden and great turnout in the Iron Range for Trump, but Wisconsin and Arizona are big asks this election.

What happens to the right if Biden wins the election? Will it completely demoralize them? It can't be a good sign if the leftists and the MSM scream and terrorize the nation for four years then win the presidency, and probably the Senate too.

I hope that doesn't happen though. Who the hell really wants a Biden/Harris presidency or to give the Democratic Party complete control over government?