Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died at 87. - 🦀

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moonman1488 said:
This bitch is 80 years old. She's also being kept alive by a cocktail of adrenochrome, amphetamines, and botox.
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Would you also add Trump Rage to that cocktail? Apparently, that's what RBG had.

It's HK-47 said:
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Alright, not only is it disgustingly elitist to suggest that because these Senators don't represent enormous swathes of unwashed hippies and trust fund college kids on the West coast, their vote shouldn't count for anything, but you're completely ignoring the fact that Gorsuch made it through because you nuked the rule that would have prevented it, Kavanaugh made it through because of that same missing rule, and Ruth's replacement is going to be a suppository because she refused to retire and you refused to let her anyways.

You're in a Hell of your own making, your opinion is fucking retarded, and no one gives a shit about the popular vote. Enjoy your new Justice.
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Spiteful Crow said:
It's genuinely frightening to realize that a reality television host was the only thing stopping Hillary Clinton from giving three Supreme Court picks to China.

Now we have to look forward to 2024. The Democrats aren't going to be getting less insane, only more insane as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez continues to overpower and outsmart Nancy Pelosi to eventually usurp her role as the Party’s leader. Alexandria will be working overtime to outsource American jobs just like her predecessor, only she's one third as old.

The Republic cannot survive Speaker Ocasio-Cortez.
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Feline Supremacist said:
The Democratic party has badly managed itself. Hillary did a tremendous amount of damage and Pelosi is unable to keep The Squad under control. The DNC is too old and stuck decades in the past to lead a political party. What you are seeing are the last gasps of politicians in their seventies and eighties trying to cling to power which is slipping out of their hands like sand. They are lashing out in their death throes. Rate me optimistic but I doubt people are going to be energized to go to the polls and vote for the party that has destroyed cities like NYC and LA because a sick old lady they didn't even know about died from cancer.
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Honestly, there's some things about that:
1. Some have said that "demographics are destiny" and that Dems just have to wait until whites are the minority.
2. If the road to 2024 continues as what we've seen, The Democratic Party will continue to render themselves irrelevant except to the most dedicated and the effects will last a long time, and someone like Tulsi Gabbard will rise from the ashes.
3. The GOP's 2024 chances rely on keeping up the momentum Trump started.
4. Never underestimate the power of charisma. Obama got in by galvanizing his party and he was running against McCain and Romney, who represent the GOP establishment Trump voters are disillusioned by, if not outright hate. And 2020 seems to be that same thing but with the parties reversed.

freshjapanesestyleudon said:
come and get your resetera salt
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Honestly, all this would make people do is want to live in the hellscape they're painting.

Chicken Neck Nelly said:
I'm sure there's a "because vagina" rationale behind this self-described cat lady's statement.
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If you mean "RBG didn't retire because she wanted to serve as a justice in the progressive utopia," then you got it.
 
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Can somebody redpill me on Barbara Lagoa? I know next to nothing about her.

alreadyhome said:
Why does RBG have to be replaced by a woman? That is the definition of sexism. Trump should choose a meritorious candidate. He's no better than Joe Biden with this pandering.
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That's true, but pragmatically it's gonna be a lot easier to hammer a woman through right now. It will be much much much harder to come up with phony allegations and bullshit reasons for the RINOs and ConInc crowd to vote no or abstain. I think under the current time constraints a woman is a good call, and having anyone even moderate (the woman will almost assuredly at least be originalist of center and decent) replace Ginsberg is a massive W.
RA-5C Vigilante said:
First off, if they shotgun a new nomination ASAP, 2020 may be elevated to the second worst year of my life.
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Why? 2020 has been pretty great politically speaking. The virus lockdown stuff sucks, but other than that it has been a good year politically. RINOs have been largely forced to eat crow. The left is mask-off mode. The right is beginning to wake up and realize what the fuck has been happening for the last 3 decades (but admittedly has really accelerated in the last decade). Another Supreme Court Justice for the constitutionalism side is a nice win not something bad.
Atomic Wangler said:
I can see and understand your argument, but I don't necessarily agree that the ineptitude of the attempt eliminates the possibility a deliberate assassination attempt.

If I've learned anything from watching the past several months of rioting, it's that the far left has no idea how shit actually works in the real world. I've seen them make "phalanxes" in the streets of Seattle that get battered aside instantly, because ANTIFA has no idea how a real phalanx works. Rioters trying to burn down the Portland Courthouse bring leaf blowers to blow tear gas back at the cops, but the shitty glorified hair drier they got can barely blow leaves around, let alone tear gas. I've lost count of how many times idiots burned their hands trying to throw back tear gas canisters, because they didn't know they would be hot, or how many rioters have blocked roads and interstates only to be surprised when they get hit by cars.

Maybe violent political action and insanity go hand in hand, but just because the attempt was inept doesn't rule out political motivation. Look at that guy who got shot thinking he could one man army an ICE facility for a text book example of what I'm talking about.
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I'm not saying that the person who did it wasn't legitimately trying to kill Trump. The people who sent the poison to other Presidents and the guy who tried to steal a Secret Service member's gun and shoot Trump were also really trying to kill them too. It's just that the level of incompetence in those plans indicates to me that nobody with any real power or experience with these things is trying to. Well not that us plebs know about at least. Pretty sure the IC would have a more thought out plot than sending poison through the mail for the Secret Service to screen and then some aid to open.
 
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Random Internet Person said:
Honestly, there's some things about that:
1. Some have said that "demographics are destiny" and that Dems just have to wait until whites are the minority.
2. If the road to 2024 continues as what we've seen, The Democratic Party will continue to render themselves irrelevant except to the most dedicated and the effects will last a long time, and someone like Tulsi Gabbard will rise from the ashes.
3. The GOP's 2024 chances rely on keeping up the momentum Trump started.
4. Never underestimate the power of charisma. Obama got in by galvanizing his party and he was running against McCain and Romney, who represent the GOP establishment Trump voters are disillusioned by, if not outright hate. And 2020 seems to be that same thing but with the parties reversed.
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"Demographics are destiny" has one little problem that the DNC refuses to address: both blacks and latinos as populations are very conservative. Right now they have a disproportionate impact when it comes to elections because they're often in swing states. But if America becomes majority latino or black... well... look at Mexico or Brazil. Those aren't exactly bastions of progressive thought.

The DNC thinks that if they manage to change demographics they'll be in power forever. But the highly motivated minority DNC demographic (unless their candidate is a black dude called Obama) is young, mostly college age people. They're not going to be able to hold on to those demographics nearly as well as they think they can once these people age, their interests become more pragmatic and less idealistic, and the gibs start running thin.

This won't go as well as they think it will. On the other hand, it's politicians being short-sighted for the sake of short-term political gain. That's just par for the course.
 
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Corn Flakes said:
"Demographics are destiny" has one little problem that the DNC refuses to address: both blacks and latinos as populations are very conservative. Right now they have a disproportionate impact when it comes to elections because they're often in swing states. But if America becomes majority latino or black... well... look at Mexico or Brazil. Those aren't exactly bastions of progressive thought.

The DNC thinks that if they manage to change demographics they'll be in power forever. But the highly motivated minority DNC demographic (unless their candidate is a black dude called Obama) is young, mostly college age people. They're not going to be able to hold on to those demographics nearly as well as they think they can once these people age, their interests become more pragmatic and less idealistic, and the gibs start running thin.

This won't go as well as they think it will. On the other hand, it's politicians being short-sighted for the sake of short-term political gain. That's just par for the course.
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No, it doesn't matter if Latinos and Blacks are socially conservative, they are going to vote Democrat anyway because they explicitly promise them things like money that the Republicans can not match without falling into the trap of becoming "Democrat-lites". Your best chance for pushing things off with Demographics is to have their party fall into a civil war frankly, that would give you a few decades of breathing room.
 
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Freedom Fries said:
Why? 2020 has been pretty great politically speaking. The virus lockdown stuff sucks, but other than that it has been a good year politically. RINOs have been largely forced to eat crow. The left is mask-off mode. The right is beginning to wake up and realize what the fuck has been happening for the last 3 decades (but admittedly has really accelerated in the last decade). Another Supreme Court Justice for the constitutionalism side is a nice win not something bad.
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I agree with you, but most people don't judge the merits of a year from a long-term political perspective, since that requires a very detached mindset, but rather how it affected them personally. This is one of the most polarised years in a looooong time, and it's pretty demoralising to see every corporation and elite support mass rioting openly, and demonise those that are against it- it's not very surprising considering the past decade, but to actually see it in such a short time period (right after Floyd died) doesn't help matters. Aside from that, it's like what HK said: the narrative gets pushed so hard in mainstream media that it drives families apart. Maybe you live in an entirely right-wing family that sees through this bullshit, but a lot of people aren't that lucky, and it's disheartening to say the least when people who you thought were your closest friends suddenly cut off contact or demonise you even if you have the most milquetoast conservative opinion, or hell, views that were considered left-wing less than a decade ago. And generally, 2020 is just a chaotic year, and unless you're an accelerationist, you're not going to enjoy actually living through chaotic times.
 
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ConfederateIrishman said:
No, it doesn't matter if Latinos and Blacks are socially conservative, they are going to vote Democrat anyway because they explicitly promise them things like money that the Republicans can not match without falling into the trap of becoming "Democrat-lites". Your best chance for pushing things off with Demographics is to have their party fall into a civil war frankly, that would give you a few decades of breathing room.
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The way to incentive those groups is to offer them job opportunities to get a chance to compete in the labor and wealth market.

I think Republicans could help out without doing handouts. Outright ignoring them isn't doing matters.
 
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I agree with you, but most people don't judge the merits of a year from a long-term political perspective, since that requires a very detached mindset, but rather how it affected them personally. This is one of the most polarised years in a looooong time, and it's pretty demoralising to see every corporation and elite support mass rioting openly, and demonise those that are against it- it's not very surprising considering the past decade, but to actually see it in such a short time period (right after Floyd died) doesn't help matters. Aside from that, it's like what HK said: the narrative gets pushed so hard in mainstream media that it drives families apart. Maybe you live in an entirely right-wing family that sees through this bullshit, but a lot of people aren't that lucky, and it's disheartening to say the least when people who you thought were your closest friends suddenly cut off contact or demonise you even if you have the most milquetoast conservative opinion, or hell, views that were considered left-wing less than a decade ago. And generally, 2020 is just a chaotic year, and unless you're an accelerationist, you're not going to enjoy actually living through chaotic times.
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Basically this, I would easily say the "families being ripped apart" is the absolute worst part of this year.
The Last Stand said:
The way to incentive those groups is to offer them job opportunities to get a chance to compete in the labor and wealth market.

I think Republicans could help out without doing handouts. Outright ignoring them isn't doing matters.
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That is the catch though, they have done that for years at this point. Trump hammers in job opportunities he has supposedly given them; Mitt Romney based his campaign on that idea. Yet look at the election results and you can see that almost everyone votes based on race besides Whites, and that seems to be slowly changing as the rust belt flees the Democrats. If anything, the exceptions to this observation in the past, such as Arabic immigrants and Asian immigrants, have with time voted more and more inline with Democrats from the 1980s to now. They can't outright ignore them, but the actual answer is they are a long-term ticking timebomb that will fuck the GOP eventually because there is nothing they can offer that the Democrats can't promise more of.

I'm not sure it is worth debating this though, I think we both have our entrenched opinions here and only time will prove one of us right.
 
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ConfederateIrishman said:
No, it doesn't matter if Latinos and Blacks are socially conservative, they are going to vote Democrat anyway because they explicitly promise them things like money that the Republicans can not match without falling into the trap of becoming "Democrat-lites". Your best chance for pushing things off with Demographics is to have their party fall into a civil war frankly, that would give you a few decades of breathing room.
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That's my point. The DNC can promise the world, but if they can't bring in the gibs, they're not going to get the votes. And there's only so much they can do.

In the 2016 elections, even with all the doom-and-gloom against Trump black voter turnout dropped. They got a little under 60% of blacks to vote. That's roughly 6-7% of the general population. Democrat-led areas already spend unreasonable amounts of money on gibs just to keep these people voting for them. If the black population jumps up to 40%, there simply won't be enough money to give away. They'll have to either face a collapse or try to make the "minority" (now majority) population more productive. Neither does great things to their ability to hold on to votes, because their platform is "social progress", not "economic prosperity".
 
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The Last Stand said:
The way to incentive those groups is to offer them job opportunities to get a chance to compete in the labor and wealth market.

I think Republicans could help out without doing handouts. Outright ignoring them isn't doing matters.
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I already have listed a way to create a welfare system independent of the state. Its just not a good idea to do my idea but if people keep insisting on getting hand outs..
 
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