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Shield Breaker said:
Dunno if late, but Pelosi wants to impeach Trump if he picks a replacement

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Truly, attempting to impeach the President just a few weeks before the election exclusively as a stalling tactic won't make them look petty or desperate or anything.

I mean, I highly doubt they'd do it, but even floating the idea as a possibility is just astounding.
 
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I can't imagine said:
Truly, attempting to impeach the President just a few weeks before the election exclusively as a stalling tactic won't make them look petty or desperate or anything.

I mean, I highly doubt they'd do it, but even floating the idea as a possibility is just astounding.
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What are you talking about - most people are going to look at them like they're brave defenders of Democracy. No depravity here, no sir.
 
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Shield Breaker said:
Dunno if late, but Pelosi wants to impeach Trump if he picks a replacement

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What, are they playing chicken now? Because I think Trump can get a new judge appointed much faster than the Dems can push an impeachment through congress.

Hollow threat, but a funny one. What's the next one, though? Is Pelosi going to threaten to detonate a nuke under the White House on the day before the election just to see if Trump flinches or something?
 
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The usual suspects are having trouble with doomerism apparently
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Corn Flakes said:
What, are they playing chicken now? Because I think Trump can get a new judge appointed much faster than the Dems can push an impeachment through congress.

Hollow threat, but a funny one. What's the next one, though? Is Pelosi going to threaten to detonate a nuke under the White House on the day before the election just to see if Trump flinches or something?
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"Nervous Nancy only used a 25 megaton warhead yesterday. The Russians they whine about used at least 50 back when you could recognize her without the wrinkles. Sad!"
 
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Gustav Schuchardt said:
What a waste of time. It'll fail in the Senate because it needs a 2/3 majority which the Dems don't have. Meanwhile, the GOP only needs a simple majority to confirm a SCOTUS appointee which they do have.
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I don't think even fucking Romney would be able to justify voting in favor of impeachment this time around. It's such a transparently political maneuver, they don't have anything they could try to nail Trump with on such short notice.
 
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ConfederateIrishman said:
This, there is not going to be anything like the civil war; What I am worried about is I am currently listening to certain people in the federal bureaucracy and the government contractors who prop them up and they are growing increasingly unhinged. A lot of them think they are being cute with fantasies after fantasies of how to "save the republic" from Trump but like the Roman senators they pretend to be like, if their fantasies ever come true, they would do more to end the republic than anything else.

tl;dr: I have never worried about Antifa, I worry about the institutional power, federal power (!) in the bureaucracy, backing them
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This I agree with the most. I already mentioned ideas how to counter this (according to my mine craft simulator). What is happening is the rich and powerful are spooked at losing their meal ticket.
 
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Corn Flakes said:
I don't think even fucking Romney would be able to justify voting in favor of impeachment this time around. It's such a transparently political maneuver, they don't have anything they could try to nail Trump with on such short notice.
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Indellable Hippocamper would like to have a word
 
Just a boy said:
I agree with you, but most people don't judge the merits of a year from a long-term political perspective, since that requires a very detached mindset, but rather how it affected them personally. This is one of the most polarised years in a looooong time, and it's pretty demoralising to see every corporation and elite support mass rioting openly, and demonise those that are against it- it's not very surprising considering the past decade, but to actually see it in such a short time period (right after Floyd died) doesn't help matters. Aside from that, it's like what HK said: the narrative gets pushed so hard in mainstream media that it drives families apart. Maybe you live in an entirely right-wing family that sees through this bullshit, but a lot of people aren't that lucky, and it's disheartening to say the least when people who you thought were your closest friends suddenly cut off contact or demonise you even if you have the most milquetoast conservative opinion, or hell, views that were considered left-wing less than a decade ago. And generally, 2020 is just a chaotic year, and unless you're an accelerationist, you're not going to enjoy actually living through chaotic times.
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Maybe I just sort of realized all this stuff a few years ago and also got past the initial red/black pill OD people tend to have without sperging out too hard online or IRL, so it really isn't ideology-changing for me to see companies and social groups acting exactly how I expected them to. I'm the only right winger in my immediate family and at the moment probably the only right winger in any of my friends seen on a weekly basis. The increase in requests for going to the gun range to learn the very basics of gun safety/shooting and change in general attitude towards / interest in firearms as well as the more frequent secret venting I've become a confidant for has been equal parts hilarious and edifying.

I guess my point is that although things have become very contentious at times, I was able to navigate the situation without losing family or any real friends. Maybe that was made easier by the fact that I'm not dealing with the accelerated timeline and frequently-seen redpill OD. Things got pretty bad with a family member, but we've been able to patch stuff up. Frankly, I'm glad I know about the massive chip on her shoulder now so I don't unwittingly expose anyone else to that negativity without mitigating it.

I definitely recommend turning the personal politics of feelings back on any really close friends or any family members who insist on not dropping politics. Don't argue that they're wrong if it's something you know from prior experience won't be agreed on or otherwise resolved amicably. Just tell them you don't agree and artfully state how bringing it up all the time makes you feel sad and lose trust. Probably throw some references to past times you've counted on them to help make them realize how dumb this is compared to the human relationship you share that until now has been totally devoid of politics. Ideally, you won't have to deal with any more political discussions, and you can make an accounting of who you can trust to do what based on those recent interactions.
The Last Stand said:
The way to incentive those groups is to offer them job opportunities to get a chance to compete in the labor and wealth market.

I think Republicans could help out without doing handouts. Outright ignoring them isn't doing matters.
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How's that lowest Black unemployment working? What about the First Step Act? How did 2018 go with Blacks? I'm not saying don't do things that obviously help those communities like school choice, trade programs, and good jobs because those things make America a better place, but I am saying that it isn't likely to move the needle much.
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That's my point. The DNC can promise the world, but if they can't bring in the gibs, they're not going to get the votes. And there's only so much they can do.

In the 2016 elections, even with all the doom-and-gloom against Trump black voter turnout dropped. They got a little under 60% of blacks to vote. That's roughly 6-7% of the general population. Democrat-led areas already spend unreasonable amounts of money on gibs just to keep these people voting for them. If the black population jumps up to 40%, there simply won't be enough money to give away. They'll have to either face a collapse or try to make the "minority" (now majority) population more productive. Neither does great things to their ability to hold on to votes, because their platform is "social progress", not "economic prosperity".
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See my above comment. Also, Blacks as a population aren't increasing. Hispanics are. There are much better inroads with Hispanics anyway. A critical issue is to slow the rate of immigration to increase assimilation and have the ones who come actually have a stake in the success of the club they've been let in to. If America's policies indicate it's a free-for-all, people will treat it like one.
 
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Unassuming Local Guy said:
I had just written a couple paragraphs in response to this about how I don't understand why a woman would watch a show that's basically just 44 minutes of women being slapped around and raped, but then I thought about it more and realized that they not watching despite the rape, they're watching for it. It's the ultimate well-off white woman's high: you get to feel like a victim and have your fucked up domination fetish fulfilled at the same time.

Anyone who brings up the handmaid's tale coming true is a female coomer exhibiting wishful thinking.
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Maybe it's like guys who like Warhammer 40k. They don't want to live in that world, but they sure are fascinated by it.
 
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ConfederateIrishman said:
They can't outright ignore them, but the actual answer is they are a long-term ticking timebomb that will fuck the GOP eventually because there is nothing they can offer that the Democrats can't promise more of.
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I think what the Republicans could offer that the Democrats can't is a tough but fair stance on law and order. Many Democrat ran cities have allowed riots to happen in their cities for weeks with little resistance. They're losing money, goodwill and residents from that move.

I don't think anybody would be against maintaining order, especially since how far they let things go.

I would wish they would have a better handle on Coronavirus, although doing strict, unrealistic restrictions isn't helping matters either.
 
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