2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Took a look at Trafalger's PA poll. The margin of error is 2.99%. Even though "x is ahead," its a statistical tie. Furthermore, we know from Barris that polling the Rust Belt in general is hard. Finally, you got to look at the fundamentals. Wisconsin voters decided to pick Trump in the last week of 2016, securing him the state. PA is the hardest Rust Belt state in realignment towards Trump. Anyways, this is a post RGB death world now. Game's changed, and Baris was kicking himself last Saturday because it may have just invalidated his polling.

The election is going to be close like last time. Don't kid yourself otherwise.
I want Trump to win just so the liberals freak out. They have no idea that they are the biggest reason to vote for Trump.
 
So interesting trivia notre, if Trump loses he'll be the first president to only serve one term since george bush Sr back in 92, but you know bush had the odds stacked against him. Remember the us had been republican for 12 years at that point and most of the gen xers who grew up under reagan were reaching voting age at the time and it wasn't just them who tired of the gop being in charge.
 
Weren't Collins, Murkowski, Grassley, and Romney going to cuck to stop it or did they back out after talking with Ted or McConnell?
Chuck Grassley - That comes from a 2018 statement where he said he would not vote for the nominee in 2020 (archive). Whenever or not circumstances will change remains to be seen. Voted "Yes" for Kavanaugh.

Susan Collins - Said she does not want the vote to come to the floor before the election (archive). She did not, however, reject the idea of Trump making a nomination before the election or reviewing the nominee through the Senate Judiciary Committee. What's more, she never said she would vote against the nominee if she had to vote on it, just that in fairness to the American people, they should hold off the vote until after the election. She also has a close election against Sara Gideon and voting "No" would kill her chances. She will most likely vote for the nominee anyway. Voted "Yes" for Kavanaugh.

Mitt Romney - Rumors has it that Romney would not vote for the nominee before it comes to the floor. However, he never said this (archive) and Romney's communicator director confirmed it. As he has never been in the Senate before, we have no idea what he may think of it but considering he voted to impeach Trump, my bet is on a "No".

Lisa Murkowski - Won't be voting for the nominee even though Ginsburg died (archive). She doesn't have a Senate election to worry about and chooses to double down on her position. Notably she was the only Republican to vote "Present" at Kavanaugh's confirmation. She will be voting "No" or "Present" if she wants to be especially limp.

I think we'll get Trump's nominee through, hopefully soon, but I'm not buying what Rooster says until I receive proof he has leaked things before. I also believe a possible confirmation will end up helping Trump since Barrett or Lagoa will likely side with him in case voting fraud becomes an issue.
 
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They have the votes to replace Ginsberg. The DNC couldn't find enough RINOs to betray America.
I think we'll get Trump's nominee through, hopefully soon, but I'm not buying what Rooster says until I receive proof he has leaked things before.
I've been checking for an actual source for this for a while now, and I'm 90% certain that Rooster here is just blowing hot air, or at least, misinterpreting what's been said so far. You think that if Ted Cruz actually said this that it would be easy to find, but the closest I've found is him saying that he believes they'll have enough votes, not that they actually do yet. If someone actually has a source then by all means share it, but I haven't seen one yet. Not gonna lie, it's pretty annoying when stuff like this is posted, I feel all it does is instill false hope- most of the Twitter replies don't even ask for a source, just celebrating based off merely a claim.
 
Question: To what degree are white voters swayed by being represented?
I'm asking because some ITT think Trump is gonna pass over the long-standing Supreme Court favourite (Coney Barrett) for another pick he made in 2017 (Lagoa). Lagoa is a Cuban-American and this kind of representation would lock in Trump votes in Florida and Arizona. I agree with Florida, not so much with Arizona solely on the grounds that Mexicans already have a girl on the Supreme Court AND they don't seem to have much common cause with the Cubans.
What I want to know is how many voters will be swayed in the Rust Belt and Pennsylvania because Trump put a white woman on the court? She's not even from there, btw, but in an IDPOL world does picking a white person curry any electoral favours? We sure know it curries racial animous with the way Dems drum it up against Gorsuch and Kavanaugh.

Maybe this sounds Wignat-ish but Amy's not getting on the court at this rate unless there's a cohort of voters who would genuinely see a white woman getting put on the court and go ''wow, finally I feel represented in government'', and btw it would be a first. Female Supreme Court justices so far have been Irish---->Jewish-->Jewish->Mexican so she'd be able to slap 'first female WASP' on her parking spot. Will this influence voting patterns? Biden wants to stay ambiguous but Trump could get one of them in whether he wins or not. I'm fucking wrong, she's Catholic. GG Jews, and a heavy F for Protestants everywhere. Trump's putting a Catholic woman on the court no matter what. Gorsuch thinks he's being cute being an Episcopalian heretical. He was raised Catholic but even without him adding Barrett or Lagoa makes 6(6!) Catholics on the court.
 
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Question: To what degree are white voters swayed by being represented?
I'm asking because some ITT think Trump is gonna pass over the long-standing Supreme Court favourite (Coney Barrett) for another pick he made in 2017 (Lagoa). Lagoa is a Cuban-American and this kind of representation would lock in Trump votes in Florida and Arizona. I agree with Florida, not so much with Arizona solely on the grounds that Mexicans already have a girl on the Supreme Court AND they don't seem to have much common cause with the Cubans.
What I want to know is how many voters will be swayed in the Rust Belt and Pennsylvania because Trump put a white woman on the court? She's not even from there, btw, but in an IDPOL world does picking a white person curry any electoral favours? We sure know it curries racial animous with the way Dems drum it up against Gorsuch and Kavanaugh.

don't think it will make much difference among white voters, there are already white judges and most people by now know (or are at least aware of it after the kavanaugh shitshow) there aren't many options. for the same reason you could argue how an outright pandering pick will fare.
 
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It gets aimed at the people who voted Trump into power. Even more intensely than it already does. They're going to make people pay for what they've done.

McCarthyism 2: Orange Man Bad.

That said I just don't see Biden winning. I mean it's not out of the realms of possibility cause it's 2020 where the everything is made up and the points don't matter but he just strikes me as the classic loser candidate. Kerry had flip flopping, Romney had binders full of women and Biden has... Shit, probably enough to tide us over for two campaigns.
 
Hey, quick question!
So I have been around people who are now super on edge after RGB died and is getting replaced. They are going off about health care being removed for everyone as they will repeal Obama Care and not replace. Is there any actual validity to these claims? From my understanding, Trump has already promised health care in a similar vein to Obama, and he just wants to make it better as Obama’s had many faults. Sure that might mean redoing instead of adding, but I doubt all of America will lose coverage and it will just end up Obama care 2.0.
I just really want to know, TBH. They are going off about how people with pre-existing conditions, such as myself, are not going to be covered properly and forced to pay absurd fees, or what have you.
 
Hey, quick question!
So I have been around people who are now super on edge after RGB died and is getting replaced. They are going off about health care being removed for everyone as they will repeal Obama Care and not replace. Is there any actual validity to these claims? From my understanding, Trump has already promised health care in a similar vein to Obama, and he just wants to make it better as Obama’s had many faults. Sure that might mean redoing instead of adding, but I doubt all of America will lose coverage and it will just end up Obama care 2.0.
I just really want to know, TBH. They are going off about how people with pre-existing conditions, such as myself, are not going to be covered properly and forced to pay absurd fees, or what have you.

Pretty sure pre-existing conditions was one of the things Trump liked about the ACA.
 
+1, I agree, I'm not tired to see that clip. :story:
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Hey, quick question!
So I have been around people who are now super on edge after RGB died and is getting replaced. They are going off about health care being removed for everyone as they will repeal Obama Care and not replace. Is there any actual validity to these claims? From my understanding, Trump has already promised health care in a similar vein to Obama, and he just wants to make it better as Obama’s had many faults. Sure that might mean redoing instead of adding, but I doubt all of America will lose coverage and it will just end up Obama care 2.0.
I just really want to know, TBH. They are going off about how people with pre-existing conditions, such as myself, are not going to be covered properly and forced to pay absurd fees, or what have you.

not sure about healthcare, but apparently he did some stuff in the background. this was posted a few days back:
  • He signed a bill this year allowing some drug imports from Canada so that prescription prices would go down.
  • Trump signed an executive order this year that forces all healthcare providers to disclose the cost of their services so that Americans can comparison shop and know how much less providers charge insurance companies.
  • When signing that bill he said no American should be blindsided by bills for medical services they never agreed to in advance.
  • Hospitals will now be required to post their standard charges for services, which include the discounted price a hospital is willing to accept.

  • In the eight years prior to President Trump’s inauguration, prescription drug prices increased by an average of 3.6% per year. Under Trump, drug prices have seen year-over-year declines in nine of the last ten months, with a 1.1% drop as of the most recent month.
  • Trump signed into a law up to 12 weeks of paid parental leave for millions of federal workers.
  • Trump administration will provide HIV prevention drugs for free to 200,000 uninsured patients per year for 11 years.
  • Trump signed an order allowing small businesses to group together when buying insurance to get a better price.
  • President Trump signed the Preventing Maternal Deaths Act that provides funding for states to develop maternal mortality reviews to better understand maternal complications and identify solutions & largely focuses on reducing the higher mortality rates for Black Americans.

  • Under Trump, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history.
  • Reformed Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors 100’s of millions of $$$ this year alone.
  • Signed Right-To-Try legislation allowing terminally ill patients to try experimental treatment that wasn’t allowed before.
 
McCarthyism 2: Orange Man Bad.

That said I just don't see Biden winning. I mean it's not out of the realms of possibility cause it's 2020 where the everything is made up and the points don't matter but he just strikes me as the classic loser candidate. Kerry had flip flopping, Romney had binders full of women and Biden has... Shit, probably enough to tide us over for two campaigns.
I can at least understand the lesbianic appeal of Hillary. Biden? Who the fuck is legitimately excited for him?
 
I can at least understand the lesbianic appeal of Hillary. Biden? Who the fuck is legitimately excited for him?
Major Obama supporters are excited for him. The media has placed the previous president on a pedestal just enough to convince many he was this sweeping perfection in comparison to Trump. As such, Biden is riding on his coattails by association. I think it is really just TDS to be honest, Biden is considered a saint compared to evil Dumpf so he has this super loyal support base that will get angry about any questioning of his mental state or numerous gaffs. He is better than Trump and Obama’s administration was the peak of America, or whatever, so Go Biden!
 
Pretty sure pre-existing conditions was one of the things Trump liked about the ACA.


You're right, Trump has said this a few times but the media does enjoy just straight up lying about it or trying to muddy the waters regarding literally anything he says.
 

You're right, Trump has said this a few times but the media does enjoy just straight up lying about it or trying to muddy the waters regarding literally anything he says.
All they do is lie. They still peddle the insane lie that he called white supremacists "very fine people". That's why more and more people are tuning news media and Hollywood out.
 
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