Lolcow Melinda Leigh Scott & Marshall Castersen - Sue-happy couple. Flat earth conspiracists. Pretending to be Jewish. Believe Kiwi Farms is protected by the Masonic Order. 0-6 on lawsuits. Marshall is dead.

[Chariot Of Mara]

I just want to point out this woman spent approximately 50% of her daily allotted Internet time on the Farms earlier today trying to cherry pick articles to prove us wrong and triple posting in the process. So it wasn’t like she posted, left, and came back to respond in that time frame. It was rapid fire angry posting to try and prove her crazy mumblings are correct. Now she came back to post about an hour ago. Unless she can prove she wasn’t browsing some other inane shit on the web, I’m gonna press a hard X to doubt on the average 60 minutes of Internet time and that screeching at us on here totally doesn’t take up a majority of her leisure time.

Cue her quoting me trying to reee about math and averages.

 

[TamarYaelBatYah]

You've described a conscious choice by a mind- a byproduct of the brain, a physical thing- overriding a different biological urge. This has nothing to do with the biological realities of conception, reproduction and genetics. It is also not an example of "the spiritual" overriding "the physical"

Incorrect again. Science has already shown in studies that a woman uses scent to mate biologically.


Source: https://www.nature.com/articles/ng830z

he DNA of both parents goes through demethylation, Mel. You own source even says that.

Do you actually read what you quote at us or do you look for something you think backs your point up and call it a day? Because neither of these sources back you up at all.

Read the study, Moron. It says that the paternal genomic coding fades away AFTER fertilization. You're dumb!

Like here, where you have misunderstood the discussion of the presence of carcinogenic chemicals in breast milk and epithelial cells and somehow construed it as a standard process by which cells in milk are supposed to rewrite a child's DNA.

Dude, you're in complete denial. DNA passes through breast-milk AND it changes the infant DNA.

hat is not how DNA works at all. You aren't regularly rewriting your genetic code. Yes, blood cells contain DNA, every cell in your body contains DNA, but that's the same DNA it's had since it was a single celled zygote. Blood cells, like every cell in the body, are churned out through the same genetic blueprint it's had from the beginning.

Denial

That you think Semen enters the blood stream is just... hilariously batshit. That really is the best way to describe it. You completely and fundamentally fail to understand how the human body works on basically all levels.

Its been scientifically proven that semen, once it hits the vaginal wall, enters the woman's blood stream. I would cite some sources, but its a waste of time for you. You just DENY DENY DENY the evidence right in front of you

Spirituality has nothing to do with science or biology, and your sources are pretty fuckin outdated, almost 20 years so, which is definitely time that would've gone towards studying this further.
Nice try cherrypicking though, didn't expect you to try citing shit

And 75 years ago they discovered stuff they haven't changed their position on. Like for example, how fertilization happens. Are you going to use the same flawed logic to say that fertilization is actually not a sperm and an egg?

What the fuck. Are you serious? We were not on the subject of methylation at all. You said that somehow a child knows how active their father is, and if they are not active, they CHANGE THEIR FUCKING DNA to become more like the mother.

Show me evidence of that.

Also, DNA is in every cell of the fucking body, not just RBCs. DNA doesn't change in any method that matters beyond mutations, which your body is programmed to kill.

Are you that dumb? Do you know what METHYLATION of ALLELES is?

Your second error here is to believe that only studies can be a way of knowing. Logic is another way of knowing.

If such and such is true, then so and so is true. It's like Adult connect the dots.

SOOOO, IF:

1. semen enters a woman's bloodstream through her vaginal walls AND
2. a woman's blood affects the fetus DNA structure through maternal plasma, AND
3. if blood cells are renewed every 4 months (DNA changes every 4 months)

THEN, the man she is sexually involved with WILL have an affect on the fetal DNA of the baby. If no man, her DNA will be dominate.

You do know that fetuses have their own DNA coding, right? It develops during the 9 months in the womb, not only on fertilization.


The more you know!!

 

[A Cardboard Box]

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Incorrect again. Science has already shown in studies that a woman uses scent to mate biologically.


Source: https://www.nature.com/articles/ng830z






Read the study, Moron. It says that the paternal genomic coding fades away AFTER fertilization. You're dumb!






Dude, you're in complete denial. DNA passes through breast-milk AND it changes the infant DNA.







Denial







Its been scientifically proven that semen, once it hits the vaginal wall, enters the woman's blood stream. I would cite some sources, but its a waste of time for you. You just DENY DENY DENY the evidence right in front of you







And 75 years ago they discovered stuff they haven't changed their position on. Like for example, how fertilization happens. Are you going to use the same flawed logic to say that fertilization is actually not a sperm and an egg?







Are you that dumb? Do you know what METHYLATION of ALLELES is?

Your second error here is to believe that only studies can be a way of knowing. Logic is another way of knowing.

If such and such is true, then so and so is true. It's like Adult connect the dots.

SOOOO, IF:

1. semen enters a woman's bloodstream through her vaginal walls AND
2. a woman's blood affects the fetus DNA structure through maternal plasma, AND
3. if blood cells are renewed every 4 months (DNA changes every 4 months)

THEN, the man she is sexually involved with WILL have an affect on the fetal DNA of the baby. If no man, her DNA will be dominate.

You do know that fetuses have their own DNA coding, right? It develops during the 9 months in the womb, not only on fertilization.


The more you know!!

That's just wrong though. You're wrong at every step. The evidence for sexual partners affecting child DNA beyond the father is shoddy at best. And you KEEP SAYING that DNA is in the blood. EVERY CELL has DNA. Blood DNA codes for blood, which is to say it codes HOW TO MAKE BLOOD CELLS. Stomach DNA codes for stomach cells, the stomach lining is totally new every couple of weeks.

By your logic, a black woman with a sickle cell baby she breast feeds could fuck enough white dudes that her baby would LOSE SICKLE CELL DISEASE. Do you have any idea how batshit insane that sounds?

Why don't women with cystic fibrosis babies just get semen injections from dudes without CF?

You have absolutely no scientific basis to stand on. This is honestly more deranged than the flat earth shit.

 

[Sir Dank-a-Lot]

You are a fucking moron. You can type shit as big as you’d like, but you’re still wrong. However, it gives us a warning that you’re about to say something really stupid!

Idiot.

 

[Burmese Rice Farmer]

And 75 years ago they discovered stuff they haven't changed their position on. Like for example, how fertilization happens. Are you going to use the same flawed logic to say that fertilization is actually not a sperm and an egg?

Fertilization is not sperm and egg, it is God planting the flesh seed of child into the unwilling hostbearer to command new generation and rot the branches of which the fruit lies. There is no sex involved in fertilization, only fate circumstance of GodJesus entering your body like a body your same size.

 

[LoverofPi]

Incorrect again. Science has already shown in studies that a woman uses scent to mate biologically.


Source: https://www.nature.com/articles/ng830z

I wasn't arguing against scent being a factor in a woman's attraction? You're not even arguing against a strawman, you've lost the plot entirely.

Read the study, Moron. It says that the paternal genomic coding fades away AFTER fertilization. You're dumb!

I did read it, and it does not say that anywhere in the study.

Dude, you're in complete denial. DNA passes through breast-milk AND it changes the infant DNA.

There will be trace amounts of DNA in breast milk, but it will not change infant DNA. Not how you think it does.

Denial

She said, in denial about how DNA and the creation of blood cells work.

Its been scientifically proven that semen, once it hits the vaginal wall, enters the woman's blood stream. I would cite some sources, but its a waste of time for you. You just DENY DENY DENY the evidence right in front of you

No, "semen" doesn't enter the bloodstream. The same way an "apple" doesn't enter the bloodstream after being absorbed by the mucus membranes of the intestines. Guess what doesn't make it into the bloodstream- DNA.

If such and such is true, then so and so is true. It's like Adult connect the dots.

SOOOO, IF:

1. semen enters a woman's bloodstream through her vaginal walls AND

the parts of semen that contain DNA do not pass through the mucus membrane

2. a woman's blood affects the fetus DNA structure through maternal plasma, AND

It does not.

3. if blood cells are renewed every 4 months (DNA changes every 4 months)

DNA does not change every four months. The blood cells are continually produced from the same DNA blueprints as the rest of the body.

THEN, the man she is sexually involved with WILL have an affect on the fetal DNA of the baby. If no man, her DNA will be dominate.

You do know that fetuses have their own DNA coding, right? It develops during the 9 months in the womb, not only on fertilization.

The DNA of a fetus- barring serious mutagenic effects from chemicals or radiation- is set at conception. You're thinking of Gene expressions, which are still not influenced by whether or not a woman continues to accept semen from the fetus's biological father.

 

[B’Elanna]

There is one circumstance where cell DNA is altered, cancer. Unless those cells are killed they kill you.

5 year cancer survivor

 

[Bloitzhole]

I guess the assumption on her part that people's dna changes over the course of their life comes from ... well, having read that dna changes over time. This is correct, but inaccurate. The correct statement would be - post natal Methylation of DNA can change, over the course of about 10+ years that is.

For simplicities sake, lets just go with the basic 4 letter DNA representation: Just like a program is just a particular order of 0 and 1s, our dna is just a certain order of A T G and C.

The assertion would then be: Sperm, blood, (whatever influences ); The environment can alter these basic letters.
A T G C could become T T A G

This is incorrect, but in all fairness, it is easy to make that mistake when reading this sorta stuff superficially. If any of that actually happened, it'd be a genuine mutation - a rarity.

What can change over the course of many years and is influenced by the environment is methylation:.

Methylation is basically one way your cell decides how to employ that blueprint it has - it changes gene Expression, but not the gene itself.

Say that of the sequence ATGCGCTTAAGC, one cell would always use the second half: TTAACG.
A change in Methylation could make the cell decide to use the first half instead: ATGCGC.

However, the basic letter sequence, has stayed the same. No letters have changed overall. It's the difference between rewriting a book, and simply referencing a different page.

If you change methylation before birth through diet or environmental factors - again, you are not changing books. It's still the DNA of that first fertilized egg, that particular order of A T G and C. You can't rewrite it, you can't go from "The Best of Stephen King Collection" to "The Complete Works of William Shakespeare". But you can turn some pages and read "The Shining" instead of "IT".

I hope that clears it up a bit

 

[Toasty]

So if Melinda mangles science this horrifically to get it to say what she wants, just imagine what she is doing to holy scripture.

 

[AnOminous]

These actions are forbidden by The Torah. You two are really really sick. Go get therapy

Like you give a fuck, whore mother to the children of a dozen different bastards.

 

[Karl der Grosse]

It's pretty funny to read this thread back in January, when we didn't know:

About Melinda's burning hatred for her pretty, happy, successful sister.
About Melinda's burning hatred for the rest of her relatives, except for poor dead-by-suicide Daddy.
About Melinda's BIG LAW SCHOOL being the appalling Appalachian School of Law.
About Melinda's CPS investigations.
About Melinda's many lawsuits, at least not in detail.
About Melinda's habit of trying to weaponize Protective Orders.
About Melinda's 'book' in any detail.
About Marshall's abusive spousal rape.
About Melinda's complete rejection of western medicine in favor of essential oils and prayer.
About Melinda taking well over a decade to get her Bachelor's Degree.

What will the next 8 months reveal?

 

[Chad Nasty]

Incorrect again. Science has already shown in studies that a woman uses scent to mate biologically.


Source: https://www.nature.com/articles/ng830z






Read the study, Moron. It says that the paternal genomic coding fades away AFTER fertilization. You're dumb!






Dude, you're in complete denial. DNA passes through breast-milk AND it changes the infant DNA.







Denial







Its been scientifically proven that semen, once it hits the vaginal wall, enters the woman's blood stream. I would cite some sources, but its a waste of time for you. You just DENY DENY DENY the evidence right in front of you







And 75 years ago they discovered stuff they haven't changed their position on. Like for example, how fertilization happens. Are you going to use the same flawed logic to say that fertilization is actually not a sperm and an egg?







Are you that dumb? Do you know what METHYLATION of ALLELES is?

Your second error here is to believe that only studies can be a way of knowing. Logic is another way of knowing.

If such and such is true, then so and so is true. It's like Adult connect the dots.

SOOOO, IF:

1. semen enters a woman's bloodstream through her vaginal walls AND
2. a woman's blood affects the fetus DNA structure through maternal plasma, AND
3. if blood cells are renewed every 4 months (DNA changes every 4 months)

THEN, the man she is sexually involved with WILL have an affect on the fetal DNA of the baby. If no man, her DNA will be dominate.

You do know that fetuses have their own DNA coding, right? It develops during the 9 months in the womb, not only on fertilization.


The more you know!!

And you went for the musk marahall, no wonder you smell

 

[TamarYaelBatYah]

About Melinda's burning hatred for her pretty, happy, successful sister.

Where did I ever say that? In fact, I said the opposite many times. I'm secure enough in my beauty and my value system to not try to compete or compare myself to anyone, least of all my ex-sibling who hasn't been part of my life for nearly 10 years. My ex-sister and I are completely opposite personalities and value systems. I could write a list again of all the areas in which I have out performed her, but it's not necessary.

I have to honestly start wondering why it is you keep bringing her up.

Dude, you are a patriarchal person with narcissistic tendencies. You're trying to pit me against my ex-sibling and do something that patriarchal narcissists do: they try to pit women against each other and also they try to elevate patriarchal women with pats on the head. "See this woman here, (____insert praise here____)". Simply because the woman feeds into patriarchal role models for women, be it sexual objectification of her body or having the same semen sample in her offspring.

Capitalists do the same thing with their spouses. "My wife is better because she pays the bills too".

You Goy men always try to compare wives because everything is a competition for you. You Goy men can't seem to value your wives without getting other people involved.

I can see through what you are doing. I'm not going to play into your bullshit.

Like you give a fuck, whore mother to the children of a dozen different bastards.

It's 2020, and some fat lard guy on the internet is still using the word "bastard". Let this be evidence, ladies, of just how far we have NOT come in the fight for gender equality.

Today is a sad day for women.

I wasn't arguing against scent being a factor in a woman's attraction? You're not even arguing against a strawman, you've lost the plot entirely.



I did read it, and it does not say that anywhere in the study.



There will be trace amounts of DNA in breast milk, but it will not change infant DNA. Not how you think it does.



She said, in denial about how DNA and the creation of blood cells work.



No, "semen" doesn't enter the bloodstream. The same way an "apple" doesn't enter the bloodstream after being absorbed by the mucus membranes of the intestines. Guess what doesn't make it into the bloodstream- DNA.



the parts of semen that contain DNA do not pass through the mucus membrane



It does not.



DNA does not change every four months. The blood cells are continually produced from the same DNA blueprints as the rest of the body.



The DNA of a fetus- barring serious mutagenic effects from chemicals or radiation- is set at conception. You're thinking of Gene expressions, which are still not influenced by whether or not a woman continues to accept semen from the fetus's biological father.

You're just denying everything that science says DNA does.

Here's a study to combat your believe that semen doesn't change the DNA of women by crossing through their vaginal wall:


"the vagina absorbs a number of components of semen that can be detected in the bloodstream within a few hours of administration"

Source: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1015257004839
Title: "Does Semen Have Antidepressant Properties?"


And another one...

"Previous research (see, for example, Benziger & Edelson, 1983) indicates that the vagina is permeable to a number of compounds, including steroids, proteins, and hormones. Furthermore, many of the chemical hormones found in semen can be measured in the female bloodstream between one and two hours after intercourse (Burch & Gallup)."

Source: https://www.researchgate.net/profil...-PHYSIOLOGY-AND-BEHAVIOR-OF-HUMAN-FEMALES.pdf

 

[Burmese Rice Farmer]

Where did I ever say that? In fact, I said the opposite many times. I'm secure enough in my beauty and my value system to not try to compete or compare myself to anyone, least of all my ex-sibling who hasn't been part of my life for nearly 10 years. My ex-sister and I are completely opposite personalities and value systems. I could write a list again of all the areas in which I have out performed her, but it's not necessary.

Yeah, your sister is the exact opposite of you, that's why she doesn't have thread on kiwifarms and has a stable marriage instead of 3 failed ones

 

[TamarYaelBatYah]

Yeah, your sister is the exact opposite of you, that's why she doesn't have thread on kiwifarms and has a stable marriage instead of 3 failed ones

I have a thread on KiwiFarms because I stand for something other than Patriarchy and Capitalism.

She's married to a patriarchal Goy who uses her pregnant belly for a coffee table, I really don't care if it's been one time she's been married. I'm not impressed.

 

[Burmese Rice Farmer]

I have a thread on KiwiFarms because I stand for something other than Patriarchy and Capitalism.

She's married to a patriarchal Goy who uses her pregnant belly for a coffee table, I really don't care if it's been one time she's been married. I'm not impressed.

You have a Kiwifarms thread because you tried suing Null for being mentioned in passing in a thread tangentially related to you and your severely autistic ex tried to argue that you're competent people.
If you had any level of self-awareness, your thread wouldn't have gotten longer than maybe 50-60 pages, but here we are, reaching 600 very soon. None of this has to do with "patriarchy" or "Capitalism" because they're only topics even brought up to show how fucking dumb you are
The fact she has a stable marriage and you've failed 3 times so far and have 6 kids to deal with alone with no stable income says a lot about the decisions you guys ended up taking in life

 

[Chariot Of Mara]

“I’m not envious of my sister. Nope not at all. Let me list a block of text about why I’m totally resent free about a sibling and respond to it twice in a row just to drive the point home about how much I do not envy my sister. You patriarchs are awful comparing women. Now listen to me insult a woman.”

 

[Baby Yoda]

It's 2020, and some fat lard guy on the internet is still using the word "bastard". Let this be evidence, ladies, of just how far we have NOT come in the fight for gender equality.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

Where did I ever say that? In fact, I said the opposite many times. I'm secure enough in my beauty and my value system to not try to compete or compare myself to anyone, least of all my ex-sibling who hasn't been part of my life for nearly 10 years. My ex-sister and I are completely opposite personalities and value systems. I could write a list again of all the areas in which I have out performed her, but it's not necessary.

I have to honestly start wondering why it is you keep bringing her up.

Dude, you are a patriarchal person with narcissistic tendencies. You're trying to pit me against my ex-sibling and do something that patriarchal narcissists do: they try to pit women against each other and also they try to elevate patriarchal women with pats on the head. "See this woman here, (____insert praise here____)". Simply because the woman feeds into patriarchal role models for women, be it sexual objectification of her body or having the same semen sample in her offspring.

Capitalists do the same thing with their spouses. "My wife is better because she pays the bills too".

You Goy men always try to compare wives because everything is a competition for you. You Goy men can't seem to value your wives without getting other people involved.

I can see through what you are doing. I'm not going to play into your bullshit.




It's 2020, and some fat lard guy on the internet is still using the word "bastard". Let this be evidence, ladies, of just how far we have NOT come in the fight for gender equality.

Today is a sad day for women.









You're just denying everything that science says DNA does.

Here's a study to combat your believe that semen doesn't change the DNA of women by crossing through their vaginal wall:


"the vagina absorbs a number of components of semen that can be detected in the bloodstream within a few hours of administration"

Source: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1015257004839
Title: "Does Semen Have Antidepressant Properties?"


And another one...

"Previous research (see, for example, Benziger & Edelson, 1983) indicates that the vagina is permeable to a number of compounds, including steroids, proteins, and hormones. Furthermore, many of the chemical hormones found in semen can be measured in the female bloodstream between one and two hours after intercourse (Burch & Gallup)."

Source: https://www.researchgate.net/profil...-PHYSIOLOGY-AND-BEHAVIOR-OF-HUMAN-FEMALES.pdf

Why don't women with genetic disorders fuck men that don't have them until they are cured?

 

[Chad Nasty]

I have a thread on KiwiFarms because I stand for something other than Patriarchy and Capitalism.

She's married to a patriarchal Goy who uses her pregnant belly for a coffee table, I really don't care if it's been one time she's been married. I'm not impressed.

If this is what you call taking a stand, no wonder dudes are just calling themselves women and just fucking mogging you in ever sport, business and important venture in the world.