2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[BeboRefugee]

That is actually an interesting point I hadn't thought of. It kinda segues with my earlier post about him calling a lid.

On actual election day the candidates are usually on camera all day. Will Joe be able to do an entire day? They'll have a camera crew on them as they go vote for themselves, etc. I can totally see him messing that up, looking confused, talking incoherently. The polls will still be open in most of the swing states when Delaware's closes. If I'm a swing voter in Arizona and I see Joe acting demented, am I gonna bother going to vote for him after work?

And he can't go two days in a row. So for him to be on camera all day on November 3, he's gonna at least need November 1 and 2 off. No public events for the two days directly preceding before the election?

It's getting harder and harder to hide him.

This makes me think back to the Convention, and how we saw him on the final night, still not all there.
Firstly, the media spin-doctors said the DNC was a great success because after narrowing the criteria to exclude internet livestreams, alternative sources, etc. it drew more viewers than the RNC. Everybody ITT knows that Democrat apparatchiks DO NOT want Americans seeing Joe, because then his decline will be too clear to ignore. It got me thinking then about the production values of the DNC itself. I'm not saying the party could've orchestrated a better production if they tried, but it is mighty fortuitous how this year, they got away with 3 solid days of Orange-Man-Bad/Unite-The-Country/More Empty Rhetoric, primarily from politicians who failed in their races for the White House or Senate was capped off with what? 20 minutes from Joe? An e-conference would've been inexcusable any other year, but its really impressive how the Democrats have managed to keep Joe out of prolonged scrutiny for the guts of the year.
I'm sure there were anti-Trump devotees watching on Night 1 who tuned out and watched highlights afterwards. They didn't have to confront the real, Summer 2020 Joe Biden's stammering statements and laboured breathing

I think a lot, and I mean a lot of Biden voters will be doing so with this imagined version of Joe Biden circa 2010 topping the ticket, and not the Alzheimer's patient we really have. It would only take about 10-15 seconds face-to-face with him for a voter to catch on that something's deeply wrong with Joe.
This is why I think the party's gonna do whatever it takes to wrangle him out of having to debate Trump. Fake corona scare, an October surprise, you name it. They're gonna do something that means Biden doesn't have to spend an entire evening surrounded by crew and eagle-eyed RNC employees, plus over 2 hours in front of rolling cameras.

Calling it now, Trump will announce his Supreme Court nominee on Saturday and the Biden camp say they're boycotting the 1st debate in protest for his 'deeply unpresidential actions'.

 

[FunPosting101]

I actually have to support your point about Biden likely doing better than expected; Trump is acting on the assumption that he will.

Honestly, even I think he will do better than expected, mostly because a lot of people are expecting him to go full Alzheimer's disease live on the debate stage. That's not likely due to all the drugs that he's probably on, but at the same time, the odds of him getting the better of Trump, or even getting a few good hits in on his own, are pretty unlikely in my opinion.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

I think if Chris Wallace weren't doing the first debate, it would be a lot easier for Biden to skip out. That is, they'd have a moderator stooge give Biden the easy way out and then his campaign, after getting their media surrogates to rave over how he didn't drop dead or piss himself, would back out of the last two. But despite Wallace being a total cuck, I don't really think he would bend over backwards for Biden in every capacity. Meaning that Biden won't escape totally unharmed from the first debate, leaving it to fester in viewers' minds reinforced with a constant barrage of propaganda mainstream media. But it's also possible someone like Donna Brazille will cheat again and give the questions to the Biden team.

 

[heyitsmike]

Trump is acting on the assumption that he will.

Lol. Let me read between the lines for you: that isn't Trump assuming Biden will do well, that's Trump raising the expectations so Biden can miss them by more.

With all the talk about dementia, we had lowered the expectations for him by so much ahead of the DNC that a prerecorded speech made Biden look decent. Not again.

This is why I think the party's gonna do whatever it takes to wrangle him out of having to debate Trump. Fake corona scare, an October surprise, you name it. They're gonna do something that means Biden doesn't have to spend an entire evening surrounded by crew and eagle-eyed RNC employees, plus over 2 hours in front of rolling cameras.

I'm feeling more confident that he won't debate as well.

The first debate will start at 9pm eastern. Does anyone know off the top off their head Biden's last appearance that late at night? I know they drug him out of bed the night RBG died and it showed. But before then? His town hall last week was taped as fuck. The DNC speech was taped as fucked. Was it the debate with Bernie?

 

[Tour of Italy]

Honestly, even I think he will do better than expected, mostly because a lot of people are expecting him to go full Alzheimer's disease live on the debate stage. That's not likely due to all the drugs that he's probably on, but at the same time, the odds of him getting the better of Trump, or even getting a few good hits in on his own, are pretty unlikely in my opinion.

I think Trump wins either way by putting it out there that he thinks Biden will do well.

If he does, Trump looks sportsmanlike and a few more people see him as reasonable and respectful.

If Biden crashes and burns, he’s doing so off of elevated expectations, making it hurt all the worse.

Even if Trump is convinced that Biden is going to get utterly spanked, it still benefits him to say the opposite. And it definitely doesn’t hurt either way to prepare for Biden at his best.

 

[UselessIdiot]

And he's still alive, and is really, really old (97 iirc, God bless). But really, the man stood no chance against Clinton, even after his smooth impeachment.

Clinton's impeachment was in his second term. I think Clinton just benefited from the economy. Most people in America have fond memories of the 90s, especially since everything post-9/11. 49% turnout was abysmal though. I guess not many people cared about that election.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Clinton's impeachment was in his second term. I think Clinton just benefited from the economy. Most people in America have fond memories of the 90s, especially since everything post-9/11. 49% turnout was abysmal though. I guess not many people cared about that election.

The 90's were a unique time for the economy as well ... Because of the internet. Lots of huge breakthroughs/advancements in technology happened in that decade, and Clinton just so happened to be POTUS during that time period which definitely benefitted his presidency. Would have benefitted any POTUS sitting at that time, really.

 

[Syaoran Li]

The 90's were a unique time for the economy as well ... Because of the internet. Lots of huge breakthroughs/advancements in technology happened in that decade, and Clinton just so happened to be POTUS during that time period which definitely benefitted his presidency. Would have benefitted any POTUS sitting at that time, really.

Pretty much this, plus you had the fact that the Cold War was over and had ended peacefully with the only real violence being in the Balkans where we had minimal involvement and not only was the economy booming and the country was at peace, the suburbanite culture that got its start in the post-WWII era more or less reached its zenith in the 90's. Technology was going through massive breakthroughs and there was a sense of optimism for the future. If anything, I think the optimism was at its strongest in 2000 since Y2K turned out to be a dud and everyone was all jazzed up about the new millennium,

There was a reason why so many people sincerely believed in the "End of History" and took the writings of Francis Fukuyama and Whig History seriously in the 90's. It wasn't until 9/11 and the Great Recession that things truly took a turn for the worse.

 

[Jarolleon]

If true, then white guilt is one HELL of a drug.

Or white voters in the States are political junkies who really care about thinks like "dying wishes" and whatever scandals CNN &co. try to blow up. A lot of the MSM propaganda is trying to make him look like some kind of corrupt wannabe South American style dictator, maybe that kind of propaganda doesn't work well on hispanic voters (because they can see the difference, or maybe think that such leaders were better than the alternative) but brilliantly well on whites because we love irony.

nah, he had too much style

Maybe he only had style because his era demanded it. Now we settle for Biden.

 

[GuntPunt]

Trump will meet Lagoa on Friday before making his decision.

Shows that she still isn't off the table, even if she isn't the favorite at this point. At least Trump is weighing his options. Hopefully meeting her can convince him.
EDIT:

Will is an ACB shill and has ties to the inner circle. Can't tell if this means "from everything I've seen ACB is the pick" or if he is disappointed that she isn't.

 

[Hamberlard Raid]

Pretty informative video on Joe Biden and fracking...

Archive (360p):

Also, based comment

 

[Salubrious]

On actual election day the candidates are usually on camera all day. Will Joe be able to do an entire day? They'll have a camera crew on them as they go vote for themselves, etc. I can totally see him messing that up, looking confused, talking incoherently.

Biden has voted already. He did early voting.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Debate organizers reveal 6 topics for first Trump-Biden showdown (archive)

The Supreme Court vacancy, coronavirus and race and violence are among them.

Debate organizers have decided the six debate topics for next week’s showdown between President Donald Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden.

According to a person familiar with the planning, the 90-minute debate will be divided into six 15-minute discussion areas. They include: Trump's and Biden’s records, the Supreme Court, the coronavirus pandemic, race and violence in cities, election integrity, and the economy.

The first debate is on Tuesday, Sept. 29 and will be moderated by Fox News anchor Chris Wallace.
~~~~~~~

Hopefully, Wallace doesn't go too neocon.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Pardon the double post, but here are current (and upcoming) videos/streams of today's events:

Trump's crowd celebrating his arrival in Pennsylvania:

Trump rally streams already set up:

X-post from the Joe Biden Megathread:

A lid may have been called for ol' Joe, but Kamala is up to bat today...

I wonder if her presence will cause a dip in the poll numbers again.

Kamala's campaign stream being at the bottom is my little inside joke.

 

[DeadFish]

One thing ive noticed is trump has real estate where he holds rallies. Can anyone look into this?

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Why is Kamala wearing a mask at her speech? She looks and sounds retarded. Plus her objectively best feature, her smile, is now useless. Also I've thought this for a while, but her mask just annoys me. Something about the shape. It's like a diaper for her face.

E: God she keeps playing with her mask to move it up every minute. It looks so stupid.

E2: I'm so bored already. It's just been corona-bashing *touch mask* Trump insult *moves mask up* muh obamacare *plays with mask*

E3: muh ballot fraud *pulls mask* remember black people fighting for rights? *mask pull* MUH RUSSIA *wiggles mask*

lmao the low energy is palpable. There must be nobody there, because this is just embarrassing with the two or three claps she gets at her emphasized points.

E4: ReStOrE tHe SoUl Of ThE nAtIoN!!!1!i!! *mask adjustment* reference to how grandkids will see this in the future—BITCH YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE KIDS WHAT THE FUCK *touches mask*

Then she leaves. Literally less than 20 minutes. Holy shit, looking over this again, it looks like I'm being reductive, but no. This was her entire speech, but without all the hand movements and extra words.

Final like/dislike tally after done speaking:
Fox: 157/1.7k
Kamala Harris: 237/128

And that's all the streams of her speech just now that I can find. Just...low energy and nothing new or substantive, that's all I really have to say. Didn't even bring up the SCOTUS. They must really not know how to adjust the campaign messaging from the top of the ticket to deal with that yet.

 

[GuntPunt]

Why is Kamala wearing a mask at her speech? She looks and sounds retarded. Plus her objectively best feature, her smile, is now useless. Also I've thought this for a while, but her mask just annoys me. Something about the shape. It's like a diaper for her face.

E: God she keeps playing with her mask to move it up every minute. It looks so stupid.

Kamala Harris views in MI:
Fox News: 2.3k
Kamala Harris: 407
Total: 2.7k
And most people are hatewatching her.

 

[X Prime]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-22/north-carolina-agrees-to-count-mailed-ballots-until-nov-12

Not sure where this should go, but this seems appropriate for here.

I think it is telling that Bloomberg cites this as a win for Democrats. Disgracefully partisan.

 

[Calandrino]

I guess we will find out who is right in a week

Naw, both sides will claim victory, and believe it. Like everything else. Like the election.

 

[Someone Awful]

Trump speaking at any moment in Moon Township, Pennsylvania. Worth noting this is in Allegheny County.

Also just checked Trump 2020's website and we are getting a rally in Newport News, Virginia. Seems like he'll meet with Barbara Lagoa right before his Virginia rally and will then head to Washington D.C. to announce her or Barrett that Saturday. Then he will return to Pennsylvania at Middleton, Pennsylvania at Dauphin County. Why that county when it's trending Democratic and not Bucks County?