Lolcow Melinda Leigh Scott & Marshall Castersen - Sue-happy couple. Flat earth conspiracists. Pretending to be Jewish. Believe Kiwi Farms is protected by the Masonic Order. 0-6 on lawsuits. Marshall is dead.

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Moreover why does he say "but?"

He says "I know you've been told... but." What does the "but" mean?

Because when people say "eye for eye" they interpret that as "Sinners can hit Victims" too.

When he says BUT, it means he is adding additional understanding: "whoever strikes you on the cheek, turn to him the other also". So then that makes people THINK. "Who is allowed to STRIKE who, ACCORDING TO The Torah?"

You have to go back to The Torah for the answer. He used the word "strike" for a reason



Didn't you justify his physical abuse of his first wife for just that reason? She said mean words at him and he got offended?

Mean words were involved, BUT the situation was not limited to him simply being offended. She put him under deep psychological distress being involved with drug dealers. She tried burning him with a cigarette too.






The passage or indeed the entire sermon wasn't about restitution. It was about not getting tangled up with evil people and embroiled in their drama, and how to lead a righteous life.
Literally immediately before saying it, he said "do not resist the one who is evil."
So clearly he's not speaking to 'the one who is evil'. He would have said, evil doers, who hit people, let them hit you back twice, only in greek, if that's what he meant. But clearly he didn't.
You have no proof of your off the wall, turning your own Messiah's words on his head other than that it's what you WANT it to say.


It all goes back to The Torah


"17 “Don’t think that I have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete. 18 Yes indeed! I tell you that until heaven and earth pass away, not so much as a yud or a stroke will pass from the Torah — not until everything that must happen has happened. 19 So whoever disobeys the least of these mitzvot and teaches others to do so will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But whoever obeys them and so teaches will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness is far greater than that of the Torah-teachers and P’rushim, you will certainly not enter the Kingdom of Heaven!" (Matthew 5:17-20)

Okay but what about what Jesus said? You haven't addressed that. What does Jesus mean when he says "turn the other cheek?" I'm not asking about other Bible passages.


It's very simple. The Messiah was teaching the proper understanding of The Torah. When you read his words through the lens of The Torah, you can understand.

“Don’t think that I have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete. 18 Yes indeed! I tell you that until heaven and earth pass away, not so much as a yud or a stroke will pass from the Torah — not until everything that must happen has happened. 19 So whoever disobeys the least of these mitzvot and teaches others to do so will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But whoever obeys them and so teaches will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness is far greater than that of the Torah-teachers and P’rushim, you will certainly not enter the Kingdom of Heaven!" (matthew 5:17-20)
 
It's very simple. The Messiah was teaching the proper understanding of The Torah. When you read his words through the lens of The Torah, you can understand.

“Don’t think that I have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete. 18 Yes indeed! I tell you that until heaven and earth pass away, not so much as a yud or a stroke will pass from the Torah — not until everything that must happen has happened. 19 So whoever disobeys the least of these mitzvot and teaches others to do so will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But whoever obeys them and so teaches will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness is far greater than that of the Torah-teachers and P’rushim, you will certainly not enter the Kingdom of Heaven!" (matthew 5:17-20)
Okay but he doesn't talk about "if someone who is allowed to strikes you strikes you..." he just says "if someone strikes you, turn the other cheek."

What does that mean? He says nothing about legality and Jewish law, he just simply says "if someone strikes you, turn the other cheek." What does that mean?
 
It's very simple. The Messiah was teaching the proper understanding of The Torah. When you read his words through the lens of The Torah, you can understand.

“Don’t think that I have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete. 18 Yes indeed! I tell you that until heaven and earth pass away, not so much as a yud or a stroke will pass from the Torah — not until everything that must happen has happened. 19 So whoever disobeys the least of these mitzvot and teaches others to do so will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But whoever obeys them and so teaches will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness is far greater than that of the Torah-teachers and P’rushim, you will certainly not enter the Kingdom of Heaven!" (matthew 5:17-20)
Cardboard specifically says they aren't asking about other verses. You come right back in and quote other verses. It's that famous Melinda reading comprehension showing up again. Please stick with Matthew 5:38-5:42. That's what we're discussing.
 
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Cardboard specifically says they aren't asking about other verses. You come right back in and quote other verses. It's that famous Melinda reading comprehension showing up again. Please stick with Matthew 5:38-5:42. That's what we're discussing.
This is her form of autism which she refers to as exegesis. Because there's a verse that says otherwise, it automatically invalidates every single other verse.
 
This is her form of autism which she refers to as exegesis. Because there's a verse that says otherwise, it automatically invalidates every single other verse.
So does anyone think that Melinda has noticed yet that the whole point here is not to prove or disprove the meaning of the words that came out of the mouth of the Man of Peace, but truly, to show how much of an autistic tard monkey she is?
Thanks for a grand performance today, Linda 🎉🎈
 
So does anyone think that Melinda has noticed yet that the whole point here is not to prove or disprove the meaning of the words that came out of the mouth of the Man of Peace, but truly, to show how much of an autistic tard monkey she is?
Thanks for a grand performance today, Linda 🎉🎈
I've noticed that asking questions makes her significantly more angry than outright arguing with her.
 
So does anyone think that Melinda has noticed yet that the whole point here is not to prove or disprove the meaning of the words that came out of the mouth of the Man of Peace, but truly, to show how much of an autistic tard monkey she is?
Thanks for a grand performance today, Linda 🎉🎈
This was the greatest day, man. She got so mad at an ancient meme she told me to suck dick 3 times. :story: Like, okay. If you want me to, sure.
 
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She put him under deep psychological distress being involved with drug dealers

Yes, so you say. She, on the other hand, probably experienced stress when she found out her husband was starting an emotional affair with a woman who lived on the other side of the country. Also when he showed up in the middle of the night, unexpectedly, carrying a rifle.
 
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Because when people say "eye for eye" they interpret that as "Sinners can hit Victims" too.

When he says BUT, it means he is adding additional understanding: "whoever strikes you on the cheek, turn to him the other also". So then that makes people THINK. "Who is allowed to STRIKE who, ACCORDING TO The Torah?"

You have to go back to The Torah for the answer. He used the word "strike" for a reason

He literally says in the next section to love your enemies and pray for those who wrong you so that they might know God and forgiveness. I don't understand how you can be so fucking obtuse about this.
 
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"The narcissist relies on Confirmation Bias to get people to believe the lies about the victims. If a narc tells his monkeys or enablers a bunch of lies about you, then innocent things you do will look like “proof” that the narcissist was telling the truth, because they are predetermined to see you that way."

source: http://facesofnarcissism.com/2015/0...-one-of-the-narcissists-most-effective-tools/



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Stalker...woops, don't want to give a one word response. STALKER!
 
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Also proves that both he and @TamarYaelBatYah put way too much thought into user's avatars.
She’s still just salty she can’t change hers. Obviously if she had the ability to, it would be the mostest bestest greatest super duper fantabulous avatar on kiwi farms, nay! The whole interwebs!! Honestly, if nsfw avatars were allowed I’d just change it to porn gif so every time she had to compulsively read her thread she’d be committing a sin. Would be good for a laugh for a while.
 
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"On the contrary, if someone hits you on the right cheek, let him hit you on the left cheek too"

That's the Hebraic concept of restitution. You give back to your Victim more than you took as the Sinner.

"But Zakkai stood there and said to the Lord, “Here, Lord, I am giving half of all I own to the poor; and if I have cheated anyone, I will pay him back four times as much" (Luke 19:8)






And the "cell phone" wasn't invented until 1973. What's your point?
So for some reason @TamarYaelBatYah you found the words "victim" and "sinner" to be proper nouns and capitalized them? Even if you are quoting The Bible this isn't the case. And don't bother debating me on this point, you are simply wrong, full stop.

You also have the concept of "turn the other cheek" wrong.

@A Cardboard Box is absolutely correct in that it has fuck all to do with conflict resolution. This is one Bible lesson with which I am very well versed, among many others, I just don't go around trying to beat people into the ground like an arrogant banshee.

It means that as Christians, we will be oft persecuted, so learn to accept it and if slapped on the cheek now and again, learn to take it. If slapped on the right, offer up the left for a little slapping. In the end, God will handle everything, in due time. We shouldn't worry our pretty little heads about the big and the small, because the universe (not capitalized, Melinda) and how it operates as well as the free will of other men are truly none of our business.
 
I don't worship the elohim of Psychology. You're cut and paste psycho-babble is junk.

Yet again you use this incorrectly. Elohim is the name of a particular set of gods that became the name of a singular god as the Jewish faith turned monotheistic. It is not a generic title for deities like God is.

Funny how you keep getting this exactly backwards, isn't it Mel?

"The narcissist relies on Confirmation Bias to get people to believe the lies about the victims. If a narc tells his monkeys or enablers a bunch of lies about you, then innocent things you do will look like “proof” that the narcissist was telling the truth, because they are predetermined to see you that way."

source: http://facesofnarcissism.com/2015/0...-one-of-the-narcissists-most-effective-tools/



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You know what a very common thing narcissists do? Freak out when someone calls them out on being a narcissist and accuse someone else of doing everything they are guilty of. Isn't that just some nice food for thought, huh Mel?

Ooooooh spoooky. Internet users recognized a meme prayer and reacted to it. I have NPD now guise :story: :story: :story: :story: :story: Holy fuck she’s so assmad at me calling her out. This is great. I wasn’t even trying and she’s gone full banshee.

NPD is absolutely one of Mel's biggest berserk buttons. Though it is interesting she's flipped from formerly insisting it wasn't a thing to trying to be an expert in its symptoms. I mean, in a way she is. Just more in demonstrating them, not recognizing.

edited To add: Confirmation bias doesn’t apply here. I don’t seek out approval of others, that’s why I’m on kiwi farms. I was simply quoting all the times you’ve called someone a narc after saying in 600 pages you hadn’t. And then when you were called out, oh well that instance doesn’t count because I was attacked. and all those other ones result from point A so actually you all deserve to be called narcs so I did it.
I used your own words, dear and your goalpost juggling. And compared it to a meme. And you went batshit insane over it. :story:

When you see a warped reflection and realize the mirror isn't to blame, you tend to lose it a bit, if you get my meaning.

"J-sus spoke Greek"? 😂
He spoke Aramaic and Hebrew. You're so wrong!

Everyone spoke Greek in 1st Century Palestine, Mel.

DOES THIS SAY "DO NOT RESIST EVIL"?


No. The Aramaic Peshitta is translated here to say "do not stand against evil". Why? Because instead of standing there, you STRIKE! -- EYE FOR EYE


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Thank you for letting us know you do not know what the english idiom "stand against" means, Mel.



Also thank you for letting us know you cannot follow the subject of a sentence from clause to clause in a sentence. Or follow a train of thought in chronological order. These are all very important pieces of information to have so we can adjust our already lowered expectations accordingly.
 
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We've already discussed that verse, get some new material. Go paste the Hebrew and then study it. Your English translation is WRONG
Then follow it instead of being a petty cunt.

Melinda, You can't even translate Hebrew, I've proven that before. The only language you can read and speak is English, even then you do a piss poor job of it.

Koine being the universal tongue of the Near East is one of those little facts that add up to a whole historical picture, so of course Melinda is clueless about it.

Say, how much money have you wasted on that 'jesus spoke aramaic' website? Did you get the one year subscription at the low low price of 999 dollars? Or do you just pay for access to the website itself for 179 dollary-doos? Or do you have a subscription for 25 bucks a month?
Jesus did speak some Aramaic as it was the language of Judea where he was for awhile, however he was also multi-lingual speaking at least Greek and Hebrew. Probably other languages common to the area. By Jesus's time Aaramiac was dying in favour of Greek, and Greek being the main language of the area.

Yet again you use this incorrectly. Elohim is the name of a particular set of gods that became the name of a singular god as the Jewish faith turned monotheistic. It is not a generic title for deities like God is.

Funny how you keep getting this exactly backwards, isn't it Mel?
She keeps getting the same things wrong even when people correct her. It's like she's the female version of Brad
 
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