Lolcow Melinda Leigh Scott & Marshall Castersen - Sue-happy couple. Flat earth conspiracists. Pretending to be Jewish. Believe Kiwi Farms is protected by the Masonic Order. 0-6 on lawsuits. Marshall is dead.

I feel like I'm losing more and more brain cells every time I look at your avatar. You look like a clown whore in a strip club with cheap makeup and a botched nose job
You're an autist who judges people based on their fucking profile pictures instead of their words, you have no room to talk. It really shows how shallow you are. Can't even take a drawn character, besides real women, looking better than you huh? ;) That's really rough, buddy.
 
You're an autist who judges people based on their fucking profile pictures instead of their words, you have no room to talk. It really shows how shallow you are. Can't even take a drawn character, besides real women, looking better than you huh? ;) That's really rough, buddy.
Remember, she either doesn't know who John Goodman is, or thinks @AnOminous IS Goodman. She's really not weel.
 
Well, @TamarYaelBatYah looks like this is my break from your thread. I went back to January of this year for some light reading and discovered what a truly sad individual you are. I think I was white knighting in a way trying to get you to learn from the things I kept repeating over and over and over, the number one being that you shouldn't underestimate the members of this forum, because you have no idea who they are. I think you are the victim of a cult. I think you've been sexually assaulted and impregnated by some of them. I do not in ANY WAY believe that this is an excuse for you to behave this way here, and HELL NO is it o.k. for you to take it out on Josh or the taxpayers. Andrew, he's a stalker. Deal with it however you wish. Get a fucking lawyer and shut the fuck up. I wish Marshall were still around so I could mess with him awhile.
 
Actually, Melinda is too crazy and too spiteful and too narcissistic to actually be accepted by any of the cult groups that share some of her beliefs. They think she's nuts and a bitch.
 
Actually, Melinda is too crazy and too spiteful and too narcissistic to actually be accepted by any of the cult groups that share some of her beliefs. They think she's nuts and a bitch.

According to who?




Well, @TamarYaelBatYah looks like this is my break from your thread. I went back to January of this year for some light reading and discovered what a truly sad individual you are. I think I was white knighting in a way trying to get you to learn from the things I kept repeating over and over and over, the number one being that you shouldn't underestimate the members of this forum, because you have no idea who they are. I think you are the victim of a cult. I think you've been sexually assaulted and impregnated by some of them. I do not in ANY WAY believe that this is an excuse for you to behave this way here, and HELL NO is it o.k. for you to take it out on Josh or the taxpayers. Andrew, he's a stalker. Deal with it however you wish. Get a fucking lawyer and shut the fuck up. I wish Marshall were still around so I could mess with him awhile.

I know who you are by the things that you say




You're an autist who judges people based on their fucking profile pictures instead of their words, you have no room to talk. It really shows how shallow you are. Can't even take a drawn character, besides real women, looking better than you huh? ;) That's really rough, buddy.

A picture is worth a 1000 words hun. We are complete strangers on the internet and yet you feel the need to try to impress others looking like a stuck up snob with make up in your avatar. Whose the shallow one now?

Your ugly avatar isn't anywhere near as good looking as I am.
You've never seen me in person. I'm beautiful without clown make up. I don't need to hide my face behind clown make up to look good.

When I take the time to do my hair and put my make up on for Marshall, I'm drop dead gorgeous. I'm not intimidated by your words.




You know what a very common thing narcissists do? Freak out when someone calls them out on being a narcissist and accuse someone else of doing everything they are guilty of. Isn't that just some nice food for thought, huh Mel?

You know what Narcissists do? Try to tell others what they feel. Quite trying to project yourself onto others




So for some reason @TamarYaelBatYah you found the words "victim" and "sinner" to be proper nouns and capitalized them? Even if you are quoting The Bible this isn't the case. And don't bother debating me on this point, you are simply wrong, full stop.


They are proper nouns. Period.




It means that as Christians, we will be oft persecuted, so learn to accept it and if slapped on the cheek now and again, learn to take it. If slapped on the right, offer up the left for a little slapping. In the end, God will handle everything, in due time. We shouldn't worry our pretty little heads about the big and the small, because the universe (not capitalized, Melinda) and how it operates as well as the free will of other men are truly none of our business.

Incorrect. Pacifism is not condoned in The Torah.


He literally says in the next section to love your enemies and pray for those who wrong you so that they might know God and forgiveness. I don't understand how you can be so fucking obtuse about this.


You're assuming the enemy is the Sinner, not the Victim.





Yes, so you say. She, on the other hand, probably experienced stress when she found out her husband was starting an emotional affair with a woman who lived on the other side of the country. Also when he showed up in the middle of the night, unexpectedly, carrying a rifle.

They weren't together when we started talking. And on a side note, their marriage was never valid in the eyes of Elohim anyway





@TamarYaelBatYah Would you sue me if you knew who I was in real life?


No, why?




Okay but he doesn't talk about "if someone who is allowed to strikes you strikes you..." he just says "if someone strikes you, turn the other cheek."

What does that mean? He says nothing about legality and Jewish law, he just simply says "if someone strikes you, turn the other cheek." What does that mean?

It's very simple.

Answer the question:

DID THE MESSIAH COME TO TELL HIS SHEEP TO FOLLOW THE TORAH?

pray for those who wrong you so that they might know God and forgiveness

it does not say "so that they might know G-d and forgiveness". You've added that to the text.

It says "pray for those who persecute you". YEAH. PRAY WHAT?

Pray for them to be cursed!


"May they be like chaff before the wind,
with the angel of the Lord driving them away;
may their path be dark and slippery,
with the angel of the Lord pursuing them" (Ps 35:5-6)
 
When I take the time to do my hair and put my make up on for Marshall, I'm drop dead gorgeous. I'm not intimidated by your words.

Who do you think you're fooling? Most of the time you can't even be bothered to wash yourself adequately enough to not stink of body odor and poverty.

They weren't together when we started talking. And on a side note, their marriage was never valid in the eyes of Elohim anyway

LOL, always with the legalistic quibble, the ex-post facto justification. You started your emotional affair some time before the domestic violence incident. Marshall obviously thought they were together, that's why he was in bed with her that night. You might as well just admit it.
 
You're assuming the enemy is the Sinner, not the Victim.
If he had meant that, he would have said so. Instead he exhorted his followers to love their enemies, and pray for those who have wronged them.
Are you having trouble with your vision? Contacts been in too long?
Because the text does NOT say, " you unrighteous, love your victims and pray for those you have wronged."
 
According to who?






I know who you are by the things that you say






A picture is worth a 1000 words hun. We are complete strangers on the internet and yet you feel the need to try to impress others looking like a stuck up snob with make up in your avatar. Whose the shallow one now?

Your ugly avatar isn't anywhere near as good looking as I am.
You've never seen me in person. I'm beautiful without clown make up. I don't need to hide my face behind clown make up to look good.

When I take the time to do my hair and put my make up on for Marshall, I'm drop dead gorgeous. I'm not intimidated by your words.






You know what Narcissists do? Try to tell others what they feel. Quite trying to project yourself onto others







They are proper nouns. Period.






Incorrect. Pacifism is not condoned in The Torah.





You're assuming the enemy is the Sinner, not the Victim.







They weren't together when we started talking. And on a side note, their marriage was never valid in the eyes of Elohim anyway








No, why?






It's very simple.

Answer the question:

DID THE MESSIAH COME TO TELL HIS SHEEP TO FOLLOW THE TORAH?
Way to dodge the question. Surely you have answers. It's very simple. What did he mean by "turn the other cheek?" He never mentioned Hebrew law or conflict resolution. He simply said "if someone hits you, turn the other cheek." What does that mean?
 
it does not say "so that they might know G-d and forgiveness". You've added that to the text.

It says "pray for those who persecute you". YEAH. PRAY WHAT?

Pray for them to be cursed!


"May they be like chaff before the wind,
with the angel of the Lord driving them away;
may their path be dark and slippery,
with the angel of the Lord pursuing them" (Ps 35:5-6)
That isn't what Jesus said. From the original New Testament, which, again, was originally written and distributed in Greek.

Matthew 5:44 "ἐγὼ δὲ λέγω ὑμῖν, ἀγαπᾶτε τοὺς ἐχθροὺς ὑμῶν καὶ προσεύχεσθε ὑπὲρ τῶν διωκόντων ὑμᾶς"

LITERALLY translated

"I however say to you, love the enemies of you, and pray for those persecuting you, bless those cursing you, do good to those persecuting you and hating you."

These are the words of Christ Jesus.

Sorry for the double post but she won't respond if I add it in an edit.
 
Melinda:
I'm beautiful without clown make up. I don't need to hide my face behind clown make up to look good
Also Melinda in the next paragraph:
When I take the time to do my hair and put my make up on for Marshall, I'm drop dead gorgeous
The avatar thing is, I think, also part of her pattern when she's flustered. She goes for personal attacks. She takes little tidbits of your life that she has "deduced" like the super sleuth she is, usually wrong, and attack you based on these impressions she has of your life. If she doesn't have any information to play with, all she knows about you is your choice of avatar. I think some of it it just her emotional immaturity, but some of it is an attempt to get her target to come back at her with more of the same, getting you to feel like you need to defend yourself. But if you defend yourself, you'll probably leave a lot of personal info, and definitely be distracted from the subject at hand.

Tl;dr: the avatar thing is part dumb as rocks, part pathetic attempt at manipulation.
 
Melinda:

Also Melinda in the next paragraph:

The avatar thing is, I think, also part of her pattern when she's flustered. She goes for personal attacks. She takes little tidbits of your life that she has "deduced" like the super sleuth she is, usually wrong, and attack you based on these impressions she has of your life. If she doesn't have any information to play with, all she knows about you is your choice of avatar. I think some of it it just her emotional immaturity, but some of it is an attempt to get her target to come back at her with more of the same, getting you to feel like you need to defend yourself. But if you defend yourself, you'll probably leave a lot of personal info, and definitely be distracted from the subject at hand.

Tl;dr: the avatar thing is part dumb as rocks, part pathetic attempt at manipulation.
She is rapidly unraveling. She is close to Andrea Yates levels I think.
 
getting you to feel like you need to defend yourself.

Well, if that isn't a doozy




That isn't what Jesus said. From the original New Testament, which, again, was originally written and distributed in Greek.

Matthew 5:44 "ἐγὼ δὲ λέγω ὑμῖν, ἀγαπᾶτε τοὺς ἐχθροὺς ὑμῶν καὶ προσεύχεσθε ὑπὲρ τῶν διωκόντων ὑμᾶς"

LITERALLY translated

"I however say to you, love the enemies of you, and pray for those persecuting you, bless those cursing you, do good to those persecuting you and hating you."

These are the words of Christ Jesus.

Sorry for the double post but she won't respond if I add it in an edit.

Way to dodge the question. Surely you have answers. It's very simple. What did he mean by "turn the other cheek?" He never mentioned Hebrew law or conflict resolution. He simply said "if someone hits you, turn the other cheek." What does that mean?

It's a YES or NO question.

DID HE OR DID HE NOT TELL HIS SHEEP TO FOLLOW THE TORAH?

"17 “Don’t think that I have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete. 18 Yes indeed! I tell you that until heaven and earth pass away, not so much as a yud or a stroke will pass from the Torah — not until everything that must happen has happened. 19 So whoever disobeys the least of these mitzvot and teaches others to do so will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But whoever obeys them and so teaches will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness is far greater than that of the Torah-teachers and P’rushim, you will certainly not enter the Kingdom of Heaven!" (Matthew 5:17-20)




LOL, always with the legalistic quibble, the ex-post facto justification. You started your emotional affair some time before the domestic violence incident. Marshall obviously thought they were together, that's why he was in bed with her that night. You might as well just admit it.

No, I never tried to seduce Marshall before he got arrested. Even though I believe Goy women have no protection against adultery, I still would never try to covet another woman's spouse for three reasons: (1) I don't want to give Patriarchy an edge by thinking having a "mistress" is socially acceptable (2) If the man will cheat in his marriage, he will likely cheat on you when he leaves her for you and (3) you might be coveting the spouse of a lost sheep.

Marshall told me he slept on the couch many nights before they split. Maybe he was in the bed that night, maybe he wasn't. It really doesn't matter if Marshall was in the bed that night or not. He should have left her long before he gave them a chance to get him arrested.

Marshall is commanded by The Torah to NOT be with a woman who doesn't follow The Torah. Deut. 13. If he had followed Deut. 13, he would never have gotten to that point. Unfortunately, he took the advice of Rabbi Paul. Hard lessoned learned.

The sons of YHWH do not belong with Goy women.
 
Well, if that isn't a doozy








It's a YES or NO question.

DID HE OR DID HE NOT TELL HIS SHEEP TO FOLLOW THE TORAH?

"17 “Don’t think that I have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete. 18 Yes indeed! I tell you that until heaven and earth pass away, not so much as a yud or a stroke will pass from the Torah — not until everything that must happen has happened. 19 So whoever disobeys the least of these mitzvot and teaches others to do so will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But whoever obeys them and so teaches will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness is far greater than that of the Torah-teachers and P’rushim, you will certainly not enter the Kingdom of Heaven!" (Matthew 5:17-20)






No, I never tried to seduce Marshall before he got arrested. Even though I believe Goy women have no protection against adultery, I still would never try to covet another woman's spouse for three reasons: (1) I don't want to give Patriarchy an edge by thinking having a "mistress" is socially acceptable (2) If the man will cheat in his marriage, he will likely cheat on you when he leaves her for you and (3) you might be coveting the spouse of a lost sheep.

Marshall told me he slept on the couch many nights before they split. Maybe he was in the bed that night, maybe he wasn't. It really doesn't matter if Marshall was in the bed that night or not. He should have left her long before he gave them a chance to get him arrested.

Marshall is commanded by The Torah to NOT be with a woman who doesn't follow The Torah. Deut. 13. If he had followed Deut. 13, he would never have gotten to that point. Unfortunately, he took the advice of Rabbi Paul. Hard lessoned learned.

The sons of YHWH do not belong with Goy women.
Somebody's pissed off that Marshall was willing to make his marriage and child legal (by the standards of the state) with a woman other than her, when he can't even sign a document as a witness to his child's birth with Melinda.
Your jealousy is showing.
 
Well, if that isn't a doozy








It's a YES or NO question.

DID HE OR DID HE NOT TELL HIS SHEEP TO FOLLOW THE TORAH?

"17 “Don’t think that I have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete. 18 Yes indeed! I tell you that until heaven and earth pass away, not so much as a yud or a stroke will pass from the Torah — not until everything that must happen has happened. 19 So whoever disobeys the least of these mitzvot and teaches others to do so will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But whoever obeys them and so teaches will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness is far greater than that of the Torah-teachers and P’rushim, you will certainly not enter the Kingdom of Heaven!" (Matthew 5:17-20)






No, I never tried to seduce Marshall before he got arrested. Even though I believe Goy women have no protection against adultery, I still would never try to covet another woman's spouse for three reasons: (1) I don't want to give Patriarchy an edge by thinking having a "mistress" is socially acceptable (2) If the man will cheat in his marriage, he will likely cheat on you when he leaves her for you and (3) you might be coveting the spouse of a lost sheep.

Marshall told me he slept on the couch many nights before they split. Maybe he was in the bed that night, maybe he wasn't. It really doesn't matter if Marshall was in the bed that night or not. He should have left her long before he gave them a chance to get him arrested.

Marshall is commanded by The Torah to NOT be with a woman who doesn't follow The Torah. Deut. 13. If he had followed Deut. 13, he would never have gotten to that point. Unfortunately, he took the advice of Rabbi Paul. Hard lessoned learned.

The sons of YHWH do not belong with Goy women.
"I however say to you, love the enemies of you, and pray for those persecuting you, bless those cursing you, do good to those persecuting you and hating you."

Why did Jesus say this?
 
Somebody's pissed off that Marshall was willing to make his marriage and child legal (by the standards of the state) with a woman other than her, when he can't even sign a document as a witness to his child's birth with Melinda.
Your jealousy is showing.

First, to get the accurate facts on the table: Marshall legally married me in Virginia and he signed our daughter's birth certificate. I persuaded him to sign it, and we came to a compromise.

However, even if Marshall never legally married me, I wouldn't be concerned. He doesn't value secular legal marriage above Ketubah. Netzarim don't value secular legal documents above a Ketubah. I wish that we didn't have to do the secular legal marriage document thing, but some circumstances meant it was necessary.

There's nothing to be jealous of lol. Marshall's past is his past, that's it. There's no Polygyny going on here. He has his past, I have mine, and like I've said many times, we don't live in our past. Our focus in our Covenant is with each other.

He has told me, on several occasions, that he has never loved a woman as much as he loves me. The way he looks when he says it to me is so genuine, its so sweet. And in return, I've never connected with or loved as deeply any man other than Marshall. We have a high compatibility. We just fit each other really well. (Doesn't mean we don't still fight but, hopefully our fights will lessen, except from what I heard from most marriage counselors is that most people have the same fights over and over and over and over in their marriages 5, 10, 20...40 years down the road. So, I guess I'll just start cracking jokes about it, instead of getting upset. I watched a guy with a white beard give a talk on "the humor of marriage", He's actually an orthodox rabbi. I don't agree with everything he said, but I think there is some wisdom to that: find the humor in it for your marriage to survive.)

...because Marshall came over last Sunday after a week of intense fighting and we talked. He encouraged me that we should't split up. So, there will be no divorce. If we've been merciful up to this point with each other, might as well stay in for the long haul!





"I however say to you, love the enemies of you, and pray for those persecuting you, bless those cursing you, do good to those persecuting you and hating you."

Why did Jesus say this?


Because he was teaching The Torah.

You do realize that these verses (verse 37+) come AFTER he just said.... "Don't think I've come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets...."?? (verse 17+)

You have to read those verses from the lens of The Torah, not in opposition to The Torah.

Even the NIV says it:

"17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 5:17-20)


So, I'm going to ask you again: DID THE MESSIAH TEACH HIS SHEEP TO FOLLOW THE TORAH OR NOT?
It's a YES OR NO question.
I would prefer that you didn't keep dodging that question.
 
First, to get the accurate facts on the table: Marshall legally married me in Virginia and he signed our daughter's birth certificate. I persuaded him to sign it, and we came to a compromise.

However, even if Marshall never legally married me, I wouldn't be concerned. He doesn't value secular legal marriage above Ketubah. Netzarim don't value secular legal documents above a Ketubah. I wish that we didn't have to do the secular legal marriage document thing, but some circumstances meant it was necessary.

There's nothing to be jealous of lol. Marshall's past is his past, that's it. There's no Polygyny going on here. He has his past, I have mine, and like I've said many times, we don't live in our past. Our focus in our Covenant is with each other.

He has told me, on several occasions, that he has never loved a woman as much as he loves me. The way he looks when he says it to me is so genuine, its so sweet. And in return, I've never connected with or loved as deeply any man other than Marshall. We have a high compatibility. We just fit each other really well. (Doesn't mean we don't still fight but, hopefully our fights will lessen, except from what I heard from most marriage counselors is that most people have the same fights over and over and over and over in their marriages 5, 10, 20...40 years down the road. So, I guess I'll just start cracking jokes about it, instead of getting upset. I watched a guy with a white beard give a talk on "the humor of marriage", He's actually an orthodox rabbi. I don't agree with everything he said, but I think there is some wisdom to that: find the humor in it for your marriage to survive.)

...because Marshall came over last Sunday after a week of intense fighting and we talked. He encouraged me that we should't split up. So, there will be no divorce. If we've been merciful up to this point with each other, might as well stay in for the long haul!








Because he was teaching The Torah.

You do realize that these verses (verse 37+) come AFTER he just said.... "Don't think I've come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets...."?? (verse 17+)

You have to read those verses from the lens of The Torah, not in opposition to The Torah.

Even the NIV says it:

"17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 5:17-20)


So, I'm going to ask you again: DID THE MESSIAH TEACH HIS SHEEP TO FOLLOW THE TORAH OR NOT?
It's a YES OR NO question.
I would prefer that you didn't keep dodging that question.
Did Jesus teach those your enemies? Simple question.
 
So, I'm going to ask you again: DID THE MESSIAH TEACH HIS SHEEP TO FOLLOW THE TORAH OR NOT?
It's a YES OR NO question.
I would prefer that you didn't keep dodging that question.
You never specifically asked me. If you had, I would have said no, becausethe question implies that this is the only thing he came to teach. It's just simply the wrong question.
 
You never specifically asked me. If you had, I would have said no, becausethe question implies that this is the only thing he came to teach. It's just simply the wrong question.

The question was for CarboardBox, but I'll take this statement up anyway.

Even if he did teach additional information, why would you believe that additional information would contradict The Torah?
 
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