Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

[Nauseated Courgi]

Compare that to Legend of Korra where Nickelodeon kept waffling and changing their minds on how many episodes or seasons they wanted to order, leaving the writers to come up with a second season, and then two more seasons, to what they initially wrote as a one-shot miniseries. And then once they actually started getting their shit together in the final two seasons writing wise Nick decided to pull their budget out from under them and dump the remaining season 4 episodes on their app instead of airing them. It's almost like making shit up as you go along very rarely ever works out well.

To be fair to Nickelodeon, LoK wasn't well viewed, if they hadn't paid for the series before hand they probably would have had it cancelled at some point.

 

[Icarus B. Nezzer]

To be fair to Nickelodeon, LoK wasn't well viewed, if they hadn't paid for the series before hand they probably would have had it cancelled at some point.

Never stopped them from cancelling other shows halfway into production. Their issue with Korra was that, unlike their other failures, too many people would notice if the Avatar sequel was abruptly shut down, and even more people would notice if their only cartoon with a strong female protagonist was abruptly shut down. With Korra, Nick had to at least pretend to have grace and respect.

 

[Exceptionally Exceptional]

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the old "NO U" argument
as if you and your stans don't visit these threads constantly

speaking of projection
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in my experience, when the first thing you assume about criticism with something is associated with race whatever, and not with writing and characterization, most likely you are just projecting your own racism and want everyone to be also, to virtue signalling and silence criticism

and yes SJW do that to justify claiming the moral high ground
no one has preferences, because everything has to be about politics and race power struggle

Nobody but SJW faggots gives a fuck about the races of anime characters especially since in 90% of cases it literally comes down to nothing but the color the artist decides to pick from the pallet.
Remember this guy?

So Asian his eyes were slits, skin tan as fuck. Turns out he's half black apparently. Guess what, nobody gives a fuck. Hell, he's STILL a fan favorite character to this day because he was a horny, food obsessed, lovable goofball!

Color of skin literally means nothing in an anime. Know why? Because a black person in anime is usually just like everyone else in the anime but with darker skin. They aren't portrayed as gang banging, crack dealing, hip hop listening niggers.

 

[ShiftyBoi]

Lily Orchard's Official Tumblr, Protip: Anyone who makes the claim th…

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Archiving because you know why

 

[Chapter Master Tu'Shan]

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I might be misremembering, but didn't Lily recently say something about having been groomed?
Sometime around when she made up that story about having to prostitude herself
With all the shit she made up about herself at this point, it wouldn't surprise me if she eventually "revealed" how she was sexually abused as a child, as yet another shield against criticism.

 

[thebananaonion]

iris was the least favourite because she was too similar to already existing partners in some ways so that made her bland, pluse gen 5 anime as a whole was just meh at ets. some good episodes yes but it had nothing on the following gen 6 anime or previous ones. It was outshined by the games also wich previously, the anime was either on par with the anime or was a neat extra addition to that generation, or help boost the popularity of this random game barely anyone knew of (anime helped the gen 1 games)

pluse fuck me was she annoying as hell. her voicecould begratting at time, fine for a one off character but as one youd see in literally every episode?
Not only that she was bossy as all fuck for no reason. People dont nomrally like bossy characters unless theyre into women stepping on themor some shit (lily is into bossy women so theres that)


I've watched gen 3,4,5,6 and some of 1's anime and honestly, even withnostalgiafor gen 4 and 5 may and Dawn were far betterthan iris. she is enjoyable but the anime as a whole is a meh and iris didnt do much compared to how dawn or misty were handled tbh.


it isnt cuz she's black, stop your sperging lily, it's literally because gen 5 was not the best written anime.

She's liked by fans in the game because in the games she actually had character development, she wentfrom gym fuck knows to the literal champion. People love her theme song, the challange she brings and hell, she was the last hurra for dragon types before gen 6came around with it's faries.


People like game iris, we just dont like anime one.

 

[ActuallyAutistic]

Remember, this is a list of EVERY cartoon Lily watched as a kid, and she hates numbers 20-18. Lily says she kinda liked "Teen Titans," but only for the fun and light-hearted episodes, insisting that the show was never as dark or serious as the TTG hatedom would suggest.

Oh, fuck right off, Jerry. The original Teen Titans had a shitton of meaningful character development and plenty of serious/dark moments.
Hell, off the top of my head:

-There's an episode where Starfire gets shot two decades into the future and realizes that everything is fucked and the Titans have disbanded.

-There's an episode where Cyborg pushes past the physical limits of his body even though he himself thought he couldn't since his cyborg body supposedly had hard limits.

-Raven's father, a literal demon, comes to earth and pretty much jumpstarts the apocalypse. In fact, at the end of the episode (the first of a three-parter) Raven literally says "This is the end of the world."

-Beast Boy apparently goes berserk in an episode and seriously injures Raven, one of the strongest members of the team. Shit gets really heavy as the team tries to figure out what the hell happened (Robin even says that if Beast Boy can't explain himself he'll have to assume the worst and put him in jail)

-Robin willingly infects himself with a probe developed by Slade in order to save the team ("New deal, Slade. If I lose my friends, you lose your apprentice. And I know how much you hate to lose.")

-Side character Terra ends up betraying the Titans to work with Slade, but after the titans beat her and Beast Boy berates her for backstabbing them, she ends up sacrificing herself to save the city.


But sure, Jerry. "The original was never serious as the toxic fans make it out to be." Fucking christ.

 

[Devil-Man]

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the old "NO U" argument
as if you and your stans don't visit these threads constantly

speaking of projection
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in my experience, when the first thing you assume about criticism with something is associated with race whatever, and not with writing and characterization, most likely you are just projecting your own racism and want everyone to be also, to virtue signalling and silence criticism

and yes SJW do that to justify claiming the moral high ground
no one has preferences, because everything has to be about politics and race power struggle

iris was the least favourite because she was too similar to already existing partners in some ways so that made her bland, pluse gen 5 anime as a whole was just meh at ets. some good episodes yes but it had nothing on the following gen 6 anime or previous ones. It was outshined by the games also wich previously, the anime was either on par with the anime or was a neat extra addition to that generation, or help boost the popularity of this random game barely anyone knew of (anime helped the gen 1 games)

pluse fuck me was she annoying as hell. her voicecould begratting at time, fine for a one off character but as one youd see in literally every episode?
Not only that she was bossy as all fuck for no reason. People dont nomrally like bossy characters unless theyre into women stepping on themor some shit (lily is into bossy women so theres that)


I've watched gen 3,4,5,6 and some of 1's anime and honestly, even withnostalgiafor gen 4 and 5 may and Dawn were far betterthan iris. she is enjoyable but the anime as a whole is a meh and iris didnt do much compared to how dawn or misty were handled tbh.


it isnt cuz she's black, stop your sperging lily, it's literally because gen 5 was not the best written anime.

She's liked by fans in the game because in the games she actually had character development, she wentfrom gym fuck knows to the literal champion. People love her theme song, the challange she brings and hell, she was the last hurra for dragon types before gen 6came around with it's faries.


People like game iris, we just dont like anime one.

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[TheAmbiguousLurker]

Oh, fuck right off, Jerry. The original Teen Titans had a shitton of meaningful character development and plenty of serious/dark moments.
Hell, off the top of my head:

-There's an episode where Starfire gets shot two decades into the future and realizes that everything is fucked and the Titans have disbanded.

-There's an episode where Cyborg pushes past the physical limits of his body even though he himself thought he couldn't since his cyborg body supposedly had hard limits.

-Raven's father, a literal demon, comes to earth and pretty much jumpstarts the apocalypse. In fact, at the end of the episode (the first of a three-parter) Raven literally says "This is the end of the world."

-Beast Boy apparently goes berserk in an episode and seriously injures Raven, one of the strongest members of the team. Shit gets really heavy as the team tries to figure out what the hell happened (Robin even says that if Beast Boy can't explain himself he'll have to assume the worst and put him in jail)

-Robin willingly infects himself with a probe developed by Slade in order to save the team ("New deal, Slade. If I lose my friends, you lose your apprentice. And I know how much you hate to lose.")

-Side character Terra ends up betraying the Titans to work with Slade, but after the titans beat her and Beast Boy berates her for backstabbing them, she ends up sacrificing herself to save the city.


But sure, Jerry. "The original was never serious as the toxic fans make it out to be." Fucking christ.

-Had a whole episode dedicated to racism. And might I add that it was a far more nuanced look at the subject than a lot of adult stories trying to tackle it these days.

-Had a whole episode that was basically Robin beating himself to near death under the nightmarish hallucination of Slade returning

-Burned Slade to death in lava, let us see his skeletal corpse IN HELL before he gets revived by selling his soul to Satan

-Everything about the Trigon arc in general is significantly dark and foreboding for a kids show. Hell, Slade violently tears away at Raven's clothes, leaving her beaten, bruised and partially naked. It features Robin and Slade traveling down into hell and not even sugar coating it.

 

[Suck the Cock]

-Had a whole episode dedicated to racism. And might I add that it was a far more nuanced look at the subject than a lot of adult stories trying to tackle it these days.

I'm afraid it can't be about racism. Nobody said the word "racism" and it wasn't against Cyborg. Therefore Lily's right and everyone else is wrong.

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

I'm afraid it can't be about racism. Nobody said the word "racism" and it wasn't against Cyborg. Therefore Lily's right and everyone else is wrong.

Hey, Tumblr already yells that Starfire counts as black, so it counts!

 

[Duine In Cudromach]

Iris has a darker skin tone, therefore she's automatically black, therefore racism.

As a reminder, you're absolutely not allowed to dislike a character who is a woman because that makes you sexist, a character with a different skin tone because it means you're racist, a character who is gay because that's homophobic... the only characters you're allowed to dislike are straight white men. (Exceptions to all of these if they're of The Wrong Opinion, in which you're also allowed to use slurs.)

It can never be because a character is poorly written or unsympathetic. You can write a thousand-word essay about why you dislike the character, never mention any physical attributes, and it's still just because you're whatever flavor of -ist is necessary.

So since we're talking about Pokemon, bad opinions, and worldbuilding, something about Lily's comment from a few pages ago hit me again:

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The first one. "Teaches Sam to treat Cala like a friend and not a pet", then implies that this was a terrible idea.

So, uh... number one, it's a Pokemon comic. You are told by every NPC in the game that you should treat Pokemon as friends and partners, not animals. Only the bad guys say otherwise, and they're treated as slavers and abusers. Even in the games where you have Pokemon acting just as pets, they're implied to be treated more like family members than animals.

Number two, according to the worldbuilding of her own universe, a trainer can communicate with the Pokemon that they catch. This isn't an ability exclusive to Lily; she's explained that Lily can understand the other Pokemon just because they're hers.

This means that every Pokemon that we've seen has some level of humanlike intelligence. There are probably some exceptions, but Mismagius can communicate like a human, Butterfree can communicate like a human (even if like a child), apparently there was once a Milotic that showed up and could communicate like a human... this is a world where if you have a Pokemon registered to you, you automatically gain the understanding that they can communicate on a human level.

Even if this weren't a given, Lily already knows that the Ralts line has human sentience and that treating a Ralts like a pet would be tantamount to doing the same to a person.

I already know that Lily was reaching for 'reasons her self-insert Mary Sue isn't a Mary Sue' but come the fuck on. She's basically saying that it would have been a better idea to treat a sentient creature like a dog because it happens to not be a human being. This is the opinion of the author, not an in-universe character who is supposed to be wrong or evil.

Lily "Damn Good Writer" "Worldbuilding is Easy" "Shut Up and Look at the Baby" Orchard.

 

[starborn427614]

I'm afraid it can't be about racism. Nobody said the word "racism" and it wasn't against Cyborg. Therefore Lily's right and everyone else is wrong.

I hate that you're right but a lot of people think like this. Not really exclusive to Lily.

 

[Ben Laden]

Hey, remember how they tried to remove Brock from the anime because they were worried westerners would find his eyes offensive, especially after the Jynx situation?

Remember how it turned out literally not a single person on planet Earth cared, so they brought him back?

Hell, I'm willing to go so far as to say that people only dislike Iris' portrayal in the anime specifically. Most people I know respect her as a pretty powerful final boss in B/W2, and that's not even considering how she may be portrayed in the Pokemon Manga. Gee, it's almost like this is some kind of bad faith argument manufactured to make Lily feel morally above other pokemon fans or something...

 

[Grumpy Pickle Rick]

I'm afraid it can't be about racism. Nobody said the word "racism" and it wasn't against Cyborg. Therefore Lily's right and everyone else is wrong.

Alien racism is still racism.

 

[SubarashiiRage]

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Misty: She is very extreme in most of her moods, and she abruptly switches between her emotions. However, as time went on, Misty mellowed and her hyperactive personality was reduced significantly by the end of the series.
She is also picky, sensitive, nosy and grumpy about love acting ladylike.
There are many episodes where she is seen getting along with the younger siblings, this stems from the fact that she understands what it's like to be the youngest because she has three older sisters and is constantly trying to keep her value as a pokemon trainer
her main interest is training Water-type Pokémon in aim of becoming Water Pokémon Master and earn respect for her abilities and not just for her beauty like her sisters

Iris: a wild gilr that prefers the pokemon company over humans, had a tough time making friends in the past, a little shy and nervous at times towards others, she evasive even with Ash after their first meeting, but is invasive with most pokemons
She seems to be very hyper bold alone in the wild and then with Ash and Cilan, often times being the first to suggest something and not being afraid to speak her mind, she is a quick thinker
she was not entirely trusting of Ash at first when it came to the safety of her Pokémon, then she became more open with time
she aims to become a Dragon Master like so many others from her hometown and better understand the passions of others

but of course, reduce these characters to their most superficial characteristics and they are the same person

what does being monotype say about them?
do all Gym Leaders have the same personality?
what do they argue with Ash about? it's the same?

if to "win" an argument you deliberately hide and ignore the information that debunks its conclusion, guess what, you don't know how to argue in good faith and therefore nobody should take you seriously

 

[ShiftyBoi]

I never thought much of Iris personally, I like that she's a dragon trainer, and her design is pretty good, but overall the only thing I remember about her is that she was in over her head training Dragons and that she was kind of entitled.


Honestly I think Misty is a worse character, she's annoying, she's pretty self-centered, she's useless in most scenarios that don't involve water (a fact made worse by the fact that most of the time Brock is forced to be useless too). Probably the only reason anyone likes her is that she's from the OG series and games and she wears suspenders.

Saying they're the same character by comparing basic character traits is what a caveman would do, you might as well say they're both girls. Honestly I think the reason Iris is hated is because she wasn't as good as May or Dawn, and the generation she was introduced in was polarizing from the beginning.

You also gotta love it when Lily pulls these random factoids out of thin air so she can lecture her audience, like when she said people hate Gardevoir because it's girly. I doubt fucking anyone cares about Iris anymore, it's just that she saw it on a forum once and is dwelling on it.

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

I'll take solace in this making me learn that Dawn was liked. She was my favorite when I was a kid, but I thought she was generally seen as forgettable.

 

[starborn427614]

Hey, remember how they tried to remove Brock from the anime because they were worried westerners would find his eyes offensive, especially after the Jynx situation?

Remember how it turned out literally not a single person on planet Earth cared, so they brought him back?

Hell, I'm willing to go so far as to say that people only dislike Iris' portrayal in the anime specifically. Most people I know respect her as a pretty powerful final boss in B/W2, and that's not even considering how she may be portrayed in the Pokemon Manga. Gee, it's almost like this is some kind of bad faith argument manufactured to make Lily feel morally above other pokemon fans or something...

The reasoning behind Brock's departure and eventual return is the funniest shit.

 

[thebananaonion]

pluse tracey was just not as interesting as brock. especially alot of the humor the dub made for brock. i know they translated rice balls to jelly filled donuts but come on
nothing beats
'I know! I'll use my frying pan, as a drying pan!'

literally one of the most iconic lines from pokemon by a fan favourite.
hell people have been asking for brock to return since he left at gen 4.