Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died at 87. - 🦀

I can't imagine said:
Depending on how she feels and how her kids feel, if they choose to weaponize it, they can do it back. Her children aren't toddlers; if they wanna go out and talk about how politicians are trying to attack their mom for loving them, that's not likely to play well with the suburban mom demographic.

Sure, sure, CNN can try to spin it, but it'll still look dumb. I don't really see how this tack will actually play in their favor unless she literally did steal these kids from a foreign country, which, given the double minivan level of kids she has, seems improbable.
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Really i can't wait to see how's dems try to play this out
 
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I can't imagine said:
Depending on how she feels and how her kids feel, if they choose to weaponize it, they can do it back. Her children aren't toddlers; if they wanna go out and talk about how politicians are trying to attack their mom for loving them, that's not likely to play well with the suburban mom demographic.

Sure, sure, CNN can try to spin it, but it'll still look dumb. I don't really see how this tack will actually play in their favor unless she literally did steal these kids from a foreign country, which, given the double minivan level of kids she has, seems improbable.
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Apart from the usual sperging on Twitter the MSM is not going to go there.

She'll be attacked because she's a believing Catholic. They're going to try and paint her as belonging to a weird 'cult' of fundi Catholics, This is already being primed for. Expect lots of exposes about the bizarre religious rituals and ex members giving interviews about all the awful things ACB said and her weird beliefs.

They can't attack her for being a generic Catholic, that's political poison for the Dems. Instead they'll try and separate her beliefs from mainstream Catholicism and depict her as an extremist. Of course the killer rhetorical retort from her during the hearings will be to answer all such questions with accusations of religious bigotry. Anyway if that's the best they got on her she's getting confirmed,. No GOP Senator, even Mittens or Collins, is going to refuse to confirm someone for being a faithful Christian.
 
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I prefer to reference the 1990 film adaption of "Handmaid's", so in light of reactions I've seen to this news about Barrett online:

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Bosmadden said:
Apart from the usual sperging on Twitter the MSM is not going to go there.

She'll be attacked because she's a believing Catholic. They're going to try and paint her as belonging to a weird 'cult' of fundi Catholics, This is already being primed for. Expect lots of exposes about the bizarre religious rituals and ex members giving interviews about all the awful things ACB said and her weird beliefs.

They can't attack her for being a generic Catholic, that's political poison for the Dems. Instead they'll try and separate her beliefs from mainstream Catholicism and depict her as an extremist. Of course the killer rhetorical retort from her during the hearings will be to answer all such questions with accusations of religious bigotry. Anyway if that's the best they got on her she's getting confirmed,. No GOP Senator, even Mittens or Collins, is going to refuse to confirm someone for being a faithful Christian.
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And Romney should know about the media going after you for your faith. Back in 2012 they went after him for being a mormon.
 
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That's not passing legislation. That's deciding whether existing laws, which are the subject of some case they have decided to hear, are Constitutional. They're not going to wake up one day and decide to make a law that abortion is illegal. There's no mechanism for them to do that.

(Yes, I know case law is a term of art for binding precedent. Still not a legislature.)
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To provide a bit more elucidation,Roe v Wade is a particular cornerstone of "Legislating from the bench"which stuck in my peoples throat. In order to determine abortion restrictions as unconstitutional, the court effectively created a "Right to Privacy" from thin air, which has only ever applied to abortion and been found unconstitutional when brought up for other cases. They de facto created a law stating abortion was legal, because their constitutional basis was near non-existent.

And don't just take my word for it, Ginsburg also hated the decision. Citing that its overly sweeping language and total legalization of abortion was improper.
 
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Jarolleon said:
A Handmaid's Tale is actually popular? I thought it was only read by English teachers & the usual suspects (but I repeat myself).
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It's like 1984 in that it's popular because of that being one of the more universal dystopia references because everyone read it in school. Except if 1984 also had a recent TV show to really hammer it into the popular consciousness.
 
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A Handmaid's Tale is actually popular? I thought it was only read by English teachers & the usual suspects (but I repeat myself).
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I legit never heard of it until Hulu decided they needed a cross between The Grim Dark of game of thrones and the generic Dystopia of Hunger Games.
 
Not that he'll ever find out first hand, but still. Schumer: "Justice Ginsburg must be turning over in her grave up in heaven, to see that the person they chose seems to be intent on undoing all the things that Ginsburg did." There's no version of Heaven I can find mentioned anywhere else that has graves in it.
 
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Honka Honka Burning Love said:
I legit never heard of it until Hulu decided they needed a cross between The Grim Dark of game of thrones and the generic Dystopia of Hunger Games.
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The author of the book is from my country and pretty much everything related to art/media that's made by a Canadian is promoted to hell and back, and I also had never heard of it until the show came out.
 
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Not even. It was read in like the 80s. I never even heard of it before the HBO show came out. But these people live their entire lives based on the pop culture they consume, so now it's come to the forefront of their minds.
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For a couple of decades now, certain portions of the population have been seized with the fear that the United States is but one tick away from becoming a theocratic dystopia ruled by the "Moral Majority' or "Religious Right". It often finds it's expression in poorly written fictional tales of what supposedly will happen when their political enemies take over and succeed in establishing a totalitarian government that rules by fear and lies. The gullible public is mostly tricked by the lies, but a few who see beyond them are kept in line by fear. At the top is a sociopathic ruling class who serve with enthusiasm and total loyalty to the government. Authors detail the extensive apparatuses needed to keep it running smoothly, the secret police, the surveillance, propaganda, and other extravagant tools, these are mostly onanistic exercises pandering to people who have to believe that their enemies are firmly in total power and they are the brave underdogs.

Even when their guy, Obama was in power there was quite a to-do about a novel the usual suspects were praising for having a powerful message and warning for the time - the novel "Christian Nation" by some partner at what people refer to as a "BigLaw" firm, published in 2013. The premise was that McCain/Palin won the election instead of Obama and after McCain kicks President Palin helps usher in the Religious Right's agenda to turn the US into a strict Christian dictatorship. Even when their guy was in the White House, these people couldn't help but indulge in their persecution fantasies!

The blurbs for this thing included more than a few references to It Can't Happen Here, which is also referenced a lot in the novel itself, in case you small-brained readers have problems getting it.

"This riveting novel should join Sinclar Lewis's It Can't Happen Here as an American classic... a chain letter for liberty." -Nadine Strosser, former ACLU president

“Brilliant... read Frederic Rich's Christian Nation and learn fear.” -Richard Dawkins

"The scariest thing about Christian Nation is that it’s so plausible..." -The Rev. Barry W. Lynn, Executive Director, Americans United for Separation of Church and State

"It's not for us to say, "It can't happen here." This disturbing book argues that much of it already has." -Book Page
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You can understand how this novel sold, with rich, well-composed prose like this:
I was a lawyer and then a fighter for the secular side in the Holy War that ended in 2020 following the siege of Manhattan. Like so many others, I earned my release from three years of rehabilitation on Governors Island by accepting Jesus Christ as my savior. For the past five years I have lived as a free citizen of the Christian Nation. This is the only truth I have allowed myself... I am no longer chained in my cell, but for five years I have been bound even more firmly by the fifty commandments of The Blessing and the suffocating surveillance of the Purity Web. The cloak of collective righteousness lies heavy on the land.
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I knew vaguely that out there somewhere in America, in an America that was to me a dimly understood foreign land, there existed people - lots of people - who called themselves "born again" or "evangelical."
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This is the attitude that most people who write and consume trash like this have about wide swathes of the United States:

"Hmmm, I vaguely knew there were people out there in Flyover Land who were unlike me, a big city lawyer, but I wasn't interested in learning anything about them because they're not me so they must be bad, bad, mean, nasty people."

I suddenly remember the face of the redheaded kid I killed with a grenade. He ran at my position in Battery Park, alone, screaming, his face twisted in hate. I couldn't hear him, but his mouth suggested, 'Die faggot.' They called everyone left in Manhattan 'faggot.' He exploded in a fine red mist.
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Our narrator is a big city lawyer with a career awfully similar to our author's, but I'm sure our author doesn't have an aristocratic Indian tech industry titan for a friend. In this case Sanjay, who is rich from his development of a vaguely described app, and whom the author describes, via his mouthpiece character, in more loving detail than the main character's wife.

And you know what happened then, San? Suddenly in my minds' eye I was looking down at the locker room from somewhere up in the air, looking down on twenty scrawny teenagers, dressed ridiculously, on their knees, invoking the personal intervention of the deity - the deity responsible for the spinning galaxies and the quantum flux - to take their side in a pissant football game. I had absolute situational clarity. I didn't have the vocabulary at the time to articulate it, but I completely and profoundly understood what I was seeing. I felt so strongly that I had trouble keeping my composure - the absurdity, futility, humanity, and pathos of the moment. I... Let's just say I didn't play very well that day.
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I could go on and on with this garbage, but the thread at the AutoAdmit forums where some fellow dared to read the whole novel and share his observations really helps capture this particular brand of self-flattering paranoia over the dystopia the people who consume and praise this sort of crap seem to subconsciously demand come to be. Is it because at some subconscious level they yearn to be dominated, or because they believe in such a system they'd be one of the brave, noble freedom fighters and have their chance to shine?

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2901174&mc=535&forum_id=2.
 
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