Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

[Pizza Box]

"Moon and his site has caused three people to commit suicide"

Has it ever been proven that this website was a cause?

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

"Fighting words" is indeed a legal term. It means words which by their very nature will lead to violence, and it's one of the few exceptions to the First Amendment (along with obscenity, incitement, defamation, etc.). It's more recent of a doctrine than you'd think; Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, for instance, was in the 1940s. However, laws against fighting words are almost never enforced anymore.

America is a weird place.

 

[Hollywood Hitler]

"Fighting words" is indeed a legal term. It means words which by their very nature will lead to violence, and it's one of the few exceptions to the First Amendment (along with obscenity, incitement, defamation, etc.). It's more recent of a doctrine than you'd think; Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, for instance, was in the 1940s. However, laws against fighting words are almost never enforced anymore.

That makes sense, since people consider "misgendering" as fighting words.

But there are states where that "mutual fighting" is a thing, where if both parties agreed to start trading fists, neither can press assault charges.

 

[alreadyhome]

Textbook vexatious litigant

 

[AbraCadaver]

He has no idea how to find a hacker unless a certain tubby psychopathic Brit tells him, and even then he screws it up somehow. Most likely, he insists on trying to hire a attractive female hacker, just like he wants an attractive female landlady and an attractive female therapist. But there aren't a lot of those, so he ends up getting scammed by some 'geek girl' e-thot and gets nothing.

I always forget that when Russ tries to hire a professional to do something, he has this weird extra condition of “must also a be a hot woman willing to have sex in exchange for Olive Garden breadsticks.” Really limits your options in a lot of fields.

Like he has this idea of multitasking that means trying to fold getting laid into any basic errand or service.

“Can I get a plumber to come look at the slow drain in my bathtub? Oh, but also can I choose from your roster of attractive, horny desperate female plumbers? Is that a separate charge, or same price?”

As seen with the tanning salon, the copy store, etc, Russ’ yelp reviews make it clear that he doesn’t consider customer service from a female worker to be adequate unless the possibility of sex or at least a date is included. Bad tanning salon service because the desk girl wouldn't like me on instagram so I could hound her for a date! Bad copy store service because the desk girl got someone else to help me and wouldn’t wait on me so I could hound her for a date! Bad lawyer because she not only didn’t bring me in for a job interview, she refused my flowers and attempts to get a date!

Russ is one of those special fucked-up men who think that no matter what the job or profession, women are obligated to offer sex along with their regular work. If they weren’t expected to, the boss would just have a man do that job.

 

[Kosher Salt]

That I understand, but I believe this doesn't apply here in particular because downloading the song and uploading here is one thing, but putting a link to a video that Russ himself posted isn't grounds for copyright infrigiment.

The book isn't posted here, it's on someone's google drive. The content itself is not on Kiwi Farms.

I don't know much about legal matterd but I though this is obvious? Anyone tjat knows better feel free to correct me.

The YouTube video was actually a kiwi's channel, so it's a similar situation to the book. Russ could easily send a DMCA to Google to have them remove both of those. Strangely, however, he hasn't (even after Josh told him that he needs to do that).

Linking to a site and saying "there's copyrighted stuff here, you can get it for free" is a bit of a legal grey area. You're not actually violating the copyright, but you might be helping others to do so.

Really? I was always under the impression that "Fighting Words" was used in legal cases before. If you go back a couple hundred years ago, I'm sure the term was used to justify duels. This could simply be a misinterpretation of history though.

Russ has actually said that he views lawsuits as a sort of dueling. It fits, too; because of some perceived slight he'll try to end you by suing you into the dirt. And I really don't think he understands the difference between a legal cause of action and what he feels like. If he feels like something's wrong, he'll just batter at the law until he's beaten it into some contortion that he's able to convince himself that it agrees with him.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

You still have copyright on something even if you make it freely available, so you can sue for it. Though in that situation it's usually because someone was stealing it and passing it off as their own, or using it in some profit-making enterprise like an advertisement. You hypothetically could sue for it regardless, but I doubt it's a registered copyright so he wouldn't get statutory damages, and actual damages would be effectively nil. So even in a dreamworld scenario where he did manage to get Null for the songs in court, I don't think he'd get anything more than a nominal amount.

He registered the copyrights.

That I understand, but I believe this doesn't apply here in particular because downloading the song and uploading here is one thing, but putting a link to a video that Russ himself posted isn't grounds for copyright infrigiment.

The book isn't posted here, it's on someone's google drive. The content itself is not on Kiwi Farms.

I don't know much about legal matterd but I though this is obvious? Anyone tjat knows better feel free to correct me.

He's suing for the book and a song. The book is on a google drive (linked from here), the song was hosted here.

 

[AnOminous]

"Fighting words" is indeed a legal term. It means words which by their very nature will lead to violence, and it's one of the few exceptions to the First Amendment (along with obscenity, incitement, defamation, etc.). It's more recent of a doctrine than you'd think; Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, for instance, was in the 1940s. However, laws against fighting words are almost never enforced anymore.

"Fighting words" is just a narrow category of speech that isn't protected under the First Amendment, and the "fighting words" in Chaplinsky wouldn't be considered such today, i.e. the defendant, a Jehovah's Witness, called a police officer a "damn fascist and a racketeer." You could say a lot worse to a cop without it being punishable today. "Fighting words" are not in and of themselves illegal, just unprotected as free speech, and there would have to be a separate law against them for you to be punished for them, such as a disorderly conduct statute.

He's suing for the book and a song. The book is on a google drive (linked from here), the song was hosted here.

The only one he even tried to DMCA was the one on the front page, which he admits isn't even actually hosted on the site. And the song, allegedly linked here although the link seems broken:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/russel...taofrussellgreer.30488/page-1448#post-4579377

 

[Rustled Jimmies]

My favorite parts are that he believes anyone who contacts him and reacts poorly is from KF, including actual reporters writing articles about him. So much so that he apparently thinks that the Medium guy who wrote the article is just a KF user who became a journalist just to ruin Russell.

And any time anything bad happens, it must be the Kiwis. Even if there is zero evidence. Even if there are very clear explanations of how this is about Russell’s actions.

This type of paranoia is not going to work well for him in his psych eval. I’m sure that it’s possible that sometimes it could be someone, but he seems to see links and connections that are simply not there.

The doctor that failed to fix his face when he was younger? Just a kiwi who became a doctor and travelled back in time to prevent Rusty from getting a normal mouth


Everything is a conspiracy with him, nothing could be because he is an unpleasant person who invites negative karma into his life with open arms

 

[CORRUPT🍀]

The YouTube video was actually a kiwi's channel, so it's a similar situation to the book. Russ could easily send a DMCA to Google to have them remove both of those. Strangely, however, he hasn't (even after Josh told him that he needs to do that).

Linking to a site and saying "there's copyrighted stuff here, you can get it for free" is a bit of a legal grey area. You're not actually violating the copyright, but you might be helping others to do so.

Russ has actually said that he views lawsuits as a sort of dueling. It fits, too; because of some perceived slight he'll try to end you by suing you into the dirt. And I really don't think he understands the difference between a legal cause of action and what he feels like. If he feels like something's wrong, he'll just batter at the law until he's beaten it into some contortion that he's able to convince himself that it agrees with him.

It still shocks cos me how many people do this and not only do it with regularity but competence too. Is there a vexatious litigant status for files and such you have can have like a scarlett A branded on your forehead? I imagine you'd get a rep for it pretty quick.

 

[No. 7 cat]

It speaks a lot that he thinks he actually has a sex life to be intruded upon.

This is a never ending gift. I wish it could be entered into his psych eval.

That can be described as doing something with his left hand while watching a Taylor Swift music video.

This could be the best lolsuit ever.

 

[Sprocket]

It speaks a lot that he thinks he actually has a sex life to be intruded upon.

Doesn't $5 hookers count?

 

[The Un-Clit]

Jeezus teddybear Christ. I haven't read 30 streight pages of unhinged crazy bullshit since I last tried to tackle the SCUM manifesto. (btw, Rapey Russ here is exactly the man that the latter was written about, LOL)

There are so many legal fallacies on every single fucking page that it would take a paralegal (no actual lawyer needs to bother with THIS garbage) 2 pages per page of Greerspergery to rebut them all. I think about the only directly truthful thing said was that we came up with funny nicknames for the guy, but he didn't even use the some of the best ones like Bamboon, Strokey the Snowflake or even the Chinese news bestowed "Magical Star Buddy". What a shame.

 

[The Dude]

"Moon and his site has caused three people to commit suicide"

Has it ever been proven that this website was a cause?

It's actually been disproven, but it keeps being repeated by lolcows because they want to make out a bunch of shitposters laughing at retards to be the epitome of evil. The most common one that gets tossed around is Chloe Sagal, who made it quite clear that they self immolated as a protest regarding the US mental health system. A second one was a crazy homeless chick (IIRC) who likely had no idea of her thread here. The third was a fat tranny who (IIRC) killed themselves BEFORE their thread hear and was connected to the Tranny Lifeline drama. In fact his wife even posted here stating that he didn't kill himself because of Kiwi Farms and was upset that other trannies were using his death for propaganda purposes and was upset that they kept stating it was because of us.

Russhole, being a lolcow, of course doesn't give a shit about the facts and is just parroting bullshit to demonize us.

 

[No. 7 cat]

Really? I was always under the impression that "Fighting Words" was used in legal cases before. If you go back a couple hundred years ago, I'm sure the term was used to justify duels. This could simply be a misinterpretation of history though.

Then maybe Mr Russell should challenge Mr Moon to a duel.

 

[Rustled Jimmies]

Then maybe Mr Russell should challenge Mr Moon to a duel.

In Russell's own unhinged words on Facebook, his lawsuits are his form of a duel.

But only someone like him would brag about dueling and suing people as if it's something classy and noble instead of vindictive and petty

 

[WhaleOilBeefHooked]

I always forget that when Russ tries to hire a professional to do something, he has this weird extra condition of “must also a be a hot woman willing to have sex in exchange for Olive Garden breadsticks.” Really limits your options in a lot of fields.

Like he has this idea of multitasking that means trying to fold getting laid into any basic errand or service.

“Can I get a plumber to come look at the slow drain in my bathtub? Oh, but also can I choose from your roster of attractive, horny desperate female plumbers? Is that a separate charge, or same price?”

As seen with the tanning salon, the copy store, etc, Russ’ yelp reviews make it clear that he doesn’t consider customer service from a female worker to be adequate unless the possibility of sex or at least a date is included. Bad tanning salon service because the desk girl wouldn't like me on instagram so I could hound her for a date! Bad copy store service because the desk girl got someone else to help me and wouldn’t wait on me so I could hound her for a date! Bad lawyer because she not only didn’t bring me in for a job interview, she refused my flowers and attempts to get a date!

Russ is one of those special fucked-up men who think that no matter what the job or profession, women are obligated to offer sex along with their regular work. If they weren’t expected to, the boss would just have a man do that job.

It goes into his idea that he's literally the only man on earth who is nice to women, and shows what a sexist he really is. He thinks women are good only for sex and stroking his ego, hence why he enjoys hookers so much. He also thinks any woman can be wooed with the most token of efforts, no matter their job or position in life, and they're all just waiting for their "Romeo on a White Horse" (dry heave.) When he tries to get with a woman, he thinks they'll be blown away that *gasp* a man is being a gentleman to them! (read: buys them cheap gifts and hits on them) He expects them to be thankful that a studly big shot legal expert and soon to be famous songwriter is giving them the time of day, and when they not only don't drop their panties on sight, but have the audacity to actually refuse him, he gets mad.

Russell expects his customer service interactions to lead to sex because every fucking thing he does is in a quest to get laid. He works out at the gym so he can impress women and get laid. He works multiple menial labor jobs so he can scrounge up enough money to go to a brothel and pay women to fuck him. He sues female celebrities because he wants to fuck them, get famous, and get laid even more. He wants to make brothels legal so he can own one and have his own private harem. Every single thing he does is to get his dick wet.

 

[Barbarella]

One of my favorite little parts that Russ wrote was his encounter with Erika.

I know it’s hard to read but he says Erica told him to stop calling. And so he did.

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But a week later he’s at it again.

I have trouble reading it on my phone so will use a PC tomorrow. But is he really mentioning Bailey after accusing US of causing the suicides of others?

I hope this creature gets all he has coming-and is not escalating in the real world. Shanked by a toothbrush would be a nice end for our magic star man.

 

[Thumb Butler]

It would be much better for everyone if Russ got himself a fleshlight and taped Taylor's photo to it.

 

[GermanPotato]

It would be much better for everyone if Russ got himself a fleshlight and taped Taylor's photo to it.

He'd propably sue the fleshlight at one point in the future, because it was unwilling or didn't perform like he thought it is supposed to.