Kevin Gibes / Kathryn Gibes / TransSalamander / RageTreb / The Green Salamander - "Am hole:" The epitomized Twitter MtF you thought was just a myth! Donate to his Transformers toy fund today!

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You were absolutely dishonest in purposefully misunderstanding an argument.

Again, two different things. He should be allowed to do whatever he wants to himself, including surgical mutilation, drug addiction, suicide, whatever - as long as he doesn't infringe on others. That means no grooming or spouting bullshit on the twatters, using taxpayer or insurance money to fund his crotch butchering and forehead shaving and hair implants. He shouldn't expect any help from others besides that given willfully, and absolutely shouldn't expect celebration either. To me, the essence of tolerance and the "live and let live" argument is this: sure, do what you want, but leave other people the fuck out of it.

Half of his "horrorcow" tag comes from his twatter dot com antics: the retarded Lysenkoist bullshit he's spewing on a daily basis, his disgusting grooming of other mentally ill people, his blatant misogyny, his seething hatred of everything normal. This is when pretty much anything becomes a problem. I don't give a flying fuck about street Fittipaldis, wannabe Schumachers, and dollar store Niki Laudas - go ahead and crash into the first object you find, as long as it's not another car or people on the sidewalk.
I wasn't saying it in regards to his argument, I was just mocking Kevin lol. I don't even know if I read what he wrote under the screenshot. I stand by what I said, though. We don't let people self-harm and we shouldn't, if it can be avoided and treated in other ways. This is such a situation.
 
I wasn't saying it in regards to his argument, I was just mocking Kevin lol. I don't even know if I read what he wrote under the screenshot. I stand by what I said, though. We don't let people self-harm and we shouldn't, if it can be avoided and treated in other ways. This is such a situation.
Most of these lunatics, attention whores, and pornsick degenerates you couldn't convince or force to seek help and get treatment. You'd have to drag them to a psychiatrist to get a diagnosis, then lock 'em up in a psych ward/hospital with 24/7 surveillance and enforced drug treatment, returning to the grand asylums of the 19th century. That wouldn't go down well.
 
Most of these lunatics, attention whores, and pornsick degenerates you couldn't convince or force to seek help and get treatment. You'd have to drag them to a psychiatrist to get a diagnosis, then lock 'em up in a psych ward/hospital with 24/7 surveillance and enforced drug treatment, returning to the grand asylums of the 19th century. That wouldn't go down well.
If only we still had such asylums to put them in. I don't disagree with you here, it would be very difficult to regulate this shit with how the world currently stands. Which is why I say reinstitute mental institutions! They can get all the validation they need from Nurse Ratched! Alternatively we could just ship them all off to one of those garbage islands in the ocean.
 
If only we still had such asylums to put them in. I don't disagree with you here, it would be very difficult to regulate this shit with how the world currently stands. Which is why I say reinstitute mental institutions! They can get all the validation they need from Nurse Ratched!
Considering how GRS seems to be the modern lobotomy, and they did it to themselves voluntarily, that could work.
Alternatively we could just ship them all off to one of those garbage islands in the ocean.
There's enough pollution already. I recommend this instead.
 
See I just don't think the liberal framework of 'you do your thing and I do mine' works when it comes to troons because they will disregard their end of the bargain while simultaneously using it as a cudgel against you whenever you dare voice disagreement. Troons don't want to be 'left alone', they actively want to fuck with you and bully society into bending to their whims and they count on your apathy to do it.
This is the problem with liberalism, it presupposes liberty as a natural element within humanity that can be pursued as its own end, when in reality conditions for any sort of freedom within functioning society have to be carved out in stone and blood over the centuries of historical circumstance and must be reinforced vigorously. To put it simply, you have to do illiberal things to keep liberal freedoms.
As you look the other way, they run, like wolves, to the mentally ill and insecure to prey upon them and soothe them into addling their brains with hormones and mutilating their bodies. As you shrug and think you'll let them believe whatever they want to believe, they cajole and bully academic institutions into repeating their botched idea of biology and use that to force governments and institutions into enforcing their dogma. As you pontificate about free expression, they run to social media to get you banned for not calling them the right name and advocate for hate speech laws that jail you for telling the truth, even if you try to retreat from it all and just enjoy your hobbies, they follow you there, force themselves into the community and proceed to tear it apart. And once they've gotten in, if you try and use your freedom to criticise them, they'll fire you from your job, make your family and friends disown you and ban you from every social media platform on the planet.

On the backs of our disinterest and apathy, troons have been successful in appointing themselves as a parasitic mandarin class, who demand that everything be about their she-cock, that all peasants must bow down and pay tithe and address them with their chosen honourifics. Don't make the mistake of giving someone the courtesy they will never give back in turn.
 
See I just don't think the liberal framework of 'you do your thing and I do mine' works when it comes to troons because they will disregard their end of the bargain while simultaneously using it as a cudgel against you whenever you dare voice disagreement. Troons don't want to be 'left alone', they actively want to fuck with you and bully society into bending to their whims and they count on your apathy to do it.
This is the problem with liberalism, it presupposes liberty as a natural element within humanity that can be pursued as its own end, when in reality conditions for any sort of freedom within functioning society have to be carved out in stone and blood over the centuries of historical circumstance and must be reinforced vigorously. To put it simply, you have to do illiberal things to keep liberal freedoms.
As you look the other way, they run, like wolves, to the mentally ill and insecure to prey upon them and soothe them into addling their brains with hormones and mutilating their bodies. As you shrug and think you'll let them believe whatever they want to believe, they cajole and bully academic institutions into repeating their botched idea of biology and use that to force governments and institutions into enforcing their dogma. As you pontificate about free expression, they run to social media to get you banned for not calling them the right name and advocate for hate speech laws that jail you for telling the truth, even if you try to retreat from it all and just enjoy your hobbies, they follow you there, force themselves into the community and proceed to tear it apart. And once they've gotten in, if you try and use your freedom to criticise them, they'll fire you from your job, make your family and friends disown you and ban you from every social media platform on the planet.

On the backs of our disinterest and apathy, troons have been successful in appointing themselves as a parasitic mandarin class, who demand that everything be about their she-cock, that all peasants must bow down and pay tithe and address them with their chosen honourifics. Don't make the mistake of giving someone the courtesy they will never give back in turn.

I agree, and my view on it:

The idea that someone is just doing something to themselve and that it has nothing to do with others is disingenuous. That someone is still someones brother, father, son, friend, coworker etc etc etc

Just take an extreme example, suicide, yes it's that persons choice if they want to end it or not and yet, we try to stop them from doing it and it hurts us if we cared about that person.

Troons and their surgery are similair. Yes, as long as it doesn't affect others it's their choice, but we would still be sad if it happened to someone we care about. Humans aren't solitary animals, we're social animals.

If I had a son and he became a troon, surgery and all, then I would have wished that SRS was illegal so it wouldn't have happened.
 
I don't disagree. "Live and let live" works when and only when it's completely mutual and doesn't harm third persons.
None of those conditions apply to troons. From KevKev grooming vulnerable, often mentally ill people on twatter dot com, through Yaniv with his pedophiliac tendencies and legal antics targeting women, Ogre shutting down women's shelters, men's sports underperformers like McKinnon, Semenya, and Fallon Fox invading women's sports, to Demi-Lich George Soros and Prickless Pritzker funding troony studies and pushing harmful ideology, none those fall under those conditions.
 
See I just don't think the liberal framework of 'you do your thing and I do mine' works when it comes to troons because they will disregard their end of the bargain while simultaneously using it as a cudgel against you whenever you dare voice disagreement. Troons don't want to be 'left alone', they actively want to fuck with you and bully society into bending to their whims and they count on your apathy to do it.
This is the problem with liberalism, it presupposes liberty as a natural element within humanity that can be pursued as its own end, when in reality conditions for any sort of freedom within functioning society have to be carved out in stone and blood over the centuries of historical circumstance and must be reinforced vigorously. To put it simply, you have to do illiberal things to keep liberal freedoms.
As you look the other way, they run, like wolves, to the mentally ill and insecure to prey upon them and soothe them into addling their brains with hormones and mutilating their bodies. As you shrug and think you'll let them believe whatever they want to believe, they cajole and bully academic institutions into repeating their botched idea of biology and use that to force governments and institutions into enforcing their dogma. As you pontificate about free expression, they run to social media to get you banned for not calling them the right name and advocate for hate speech laws that jail you for telling the truth, even if you try to retreat from it all and just enjoy your hobbies, they follow you there, force themselves into the community and proceed to tear it apart. And once they've gotten in, if you try and use your freedom to criticise them, they'll fire you from your job, make your family and friends disown you and ban you from every social media platform on the planet.

On the backs of our disinterest and apathy, troons have been successful in appointing themselves as a parasitic mandarin class, who demand that everything be about their she-cock, that all peasants must bow down and pay tithe and address them with their chosen honourifics. Don't make the mistake of giving someone the courtesy they will never give back in turn.

Besides your erotic fan fiction, you described libertarianism—not liberalism. The ranch and people like them are libertarians and sometimes fascists.
 
Besides your erotic fan fiction, you described libertarianism—not liberalism. The ranch and people like them are libertarians and sometimes fascists.

What we call 'liberals' in Europe are free-market liberals, mostly those slightly right of centre. Only the more radical laissez-faire types would be called libertarian, though it's not a popular term where I reside.

Just to the left are social democrats, who still accept a free market but with more restrictions and higher taxes.
 
What we call 'liberals' in Europe are free-market liberals, mostly those slightly right of centre. Only the more radical laissez-faire types would be called libertarian, though it's not a popular term where I reside.

Just to the left are social democrats, who still accept a free market but with more restrictions and higher taxes.

The ranch is in the USA is the thing so the american version of the terms apply here. Besides, to America the whole of Europe is communist.
 
It's been said before, but Kevin's absolutely retarded comments about the British political & legal system, his inability to grasp British history except if its spoon fed through the lens of Yank consooomerism, and his self admission that he's only been outside the country once, and just to Canada, show he's really really thick.
He likes to rail against the evil rustbelters who are "thick, racist, and untravelled" etc etc, but he has the same world experience as them. Unless its via an SNL skit or some tweet he has no idea that the fuck is going on outside of Marvel, Disney, or JK Rowling
 
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Remember all that shit I just posted he bought? That's easily the remaining half he needs.

Sketchy faggot.
 
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Remember all that shit I just posted he bought? That's easily the remaining half he needs.

Sketchy faggot.

Why doesn't this sack of shit just drop the charade and post his Amazon Wishlist, Jesus Christ. I'd at least respect his honesty, just like the panhandlers who straight up tell you they are going to spend the money on booze.

His benefactors must feel like he is insulting their intelligence, why do they send their tugboat money to him? (I'm assuming it's tugboat money because no one who works for a living would spend their hard-earned money on this layabout's toy collection)
 
His benefactors must feel like he is insulting their intelligence, why do they send their tugboat money to him? (I'm assuming it's tugboat money because no one who works for a living would spend their hard-earned money on this layabout's toy collection)
They often engage in a grift/donation cycle, so money keeps going around between the same groups.
 
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