Long-Concealed Records Show Trump’s Chronic Losses and Years of Tax Avoidance - DRUMPF IS FINISHED No. Infinity Squared



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Donald J. Trump paid $750 in federal income taxes the year he won the presidency. In his first year in the White House, he paid another $750.

He had paid no income taxes at all in 10 of the previous 15 years — largely because he reported losing much more money than he made.

As the president wages a re-election campaign that polls say he is in danger of losing, his finances are under stress, beset by losses and hundreds of millions of dollars in debt coming due that he has personally guaranteed. Also hanging over him is a decade-long audit battle with the Internal Revenue Service over the legitimacy of a $72.9 million tax refund that he claimed, and received, after declaring huge losses. An adverse ruling could cost him more than $100 million.

The tax returns that Mr. Trump has long fought to keep private tell a story fundamentally different from the one he has sold to the American public. His reports to the I.R.S. portray a businessman who takes in hundreds of millions of dollars a year yet racks up chronic losses that he aggressively employs to avoid paying taxes. Now, with his financial challenges mounting, the records show that he depends more and more on making money from businesses that put him in potential and often direct conflict of interest with his job as president.

The New York Times has obtained tax-return data extending over more than two decades for Mr. Trump and the hundreds of companies that make up his business organization, including detailed information from his first two years in office. It does not include his personal returns for 2018 or 2019. This article offers an overview of The Times’s findings; additional articles will be published in the coming weeks.

The returns are some of the most sought-after, and speculated-about, records in recent memory. In Mr. Trump’s nearly four years in office — and across his endlessly hyped decades in the public eye — journalists, prosecutors, opposition politicians and conspiracists have, with limited success, sought to excavate the enigmas of his finances. By their very nature, the filings will leave many questions unanswered, many questioners unfulfilled. They comprise information that Mr. Trump has disclosed to the I.R.S., not the findings of an independent financial examination. They report that Mr. Trump owns hundreds of millions of dollars in valuable assets, but they do not reveal his true wealth. Nor do they reveal any previously unreported connections to Russia.

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Ladies and gentlemen, after years, they finally have them! Will anyone care?!

(I don't think I can post the article here because of word limits. What's the rules for this? Trying to screenshot the page also doesn't work. Fun.)
 

ROFL! Yeah, here's the thing. My probably dementia addled relative is an MSNPC worshipping true believer. She was just on the phone gloating about how they got him now. "He has $400 million in loans... and some of them might be from Putin! We don't know yet!".... "Yeah we do. Because the FBI as part of their whole fraudulent Russia investigation used the fake Steele Dossier to Fraudulently pull all of Trump's Banking and Financial Records in 2017. The documents on that just came out last week when they were presented in Federal Court. They found no Financial Ties to Russia anywhere" "BUT THERE MIGHT BE!!!!!" Some other gems from the conversation "Well he's been lying because he says he can't release anything because it's being audited, but they only audit after three years!" " ummm? He booked a huge loss in 2008 which he amortized and took as a write off over the next 10 years. when you do that the IRS will audit every year until the loss is cleared" The even sadder thing is she knows this. She's literally a retired IRS Tax Examiner. And still she believes Rachel Maddow more than her own work experience and knowledge. I swear the Dems are an actual fucking cult.
 
I came into this thread expecting you speds to try and justify this and I wasn't disappointed. Never change, A&N.
Justify what? You spergs still chimping out about his taxes, showing you don't even know what you're talking about by pretending there is some hidden magic line that requires people to reveal any illegal contributions they've received from Russia?
 
I came into this thread expecting you speds to try and justify this and I wasn't disappointed. Never change, A&N.
Donald Trump is a broke, busted loser. There, I said it. A&N is also a political hellscape, and it's tiresome. I can't believe an old man who bronzes his face has divided us so much.

Here's some MSM takes:
 
Not only does he only take a dollar in wages, he handed off his businesses to his children to manage. Non-dividend paying cap gains aren’t taxable until you sell stock. And he’s living on the public dime.

He’s still probably getting 20k a year or so in taxable dividends/annuity payments in order to actually make enough to owe federal income taxes.
 
Not only does he only take a dollar in wages, he handed off his businesses to his children to manage. Non-dividend paying cap gains aren’t taxable until you sell stock. And he’s living on the public dime.

He’s still probably getting 20k a year or so in taxable dividends/annuity payments in order to actually make enough to owe federal income taxes.
Shhhhhh. You can't expect TDS sufferes to know tax law or pay attention to their own storylines for the past 4 years. Orange Man Bad!
 
Man, I hate reruns.
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Who gives a shit anymore? It's been 5 years. I guess I can say congrats on opening yourself to get sued into the dirt NYT. Hope it was worth doing something that will be forgotton in 3 days.
 
Not only does he only take a dollar in wages, he handed off his businesses to his children to manage. Non-dividend paying cap gains aren’t taxable until you sell stock. And he’s living on the public dime.

He’s still probably getting 20k a year or so in taxable dividends/annuity payments in order to actually make enough to owe federal income taxes.
I think two of the three presidential expense accounts are taxable ($50k general, $19k for entertainment). I know the $100k travel expense account isn't.

The president pays for a Lot out of pocket. If it's not state business (or campaigning, which the campaign pays for), they pay for food and travel. They have to even buy their own toilet paper for the white house private quarters and their own Hot Pockets. You don't make money as president, and he's donating $399,999 of the $400k salary away.

Can't not accept the money, if congress allocates money it must be used for its allocated purpose, which is why he just donates it.
 
Investing makes far more than taking an income the government demands 30% of.
Except Trump's sold off over 99% of his investments for cash, at least according to this report.

And in January 2014, he sold $98 million in stocks and bonds, his biggest single month of sales in at least the last two decades. He sold $54 million more in stocks and bonds in 2015, and $68.2 million in 2016. His financial disclosure released in July showed that he had as little as $873,000 in securities left to sell.

Dude's broke.
 
Except Trump's sold off over 99% of his investments for cash, at least according to this report.



Dude's broke.
Having cash and not spending it is not the same as being broke. It just means you’re unleveraged.

Technically, he could go super hard on strong dollar policies at the end of his term and come out ahead.
 
Actually no it’s not. It is expressly illegal to publish or even possess a persons taxes without their leave. Rachel Maddow got into some hot water for just showing an old Trump tax document. The reason why should be obvious. These are not the governments documents and finances. They are the personal financial information of individual American Citizens. The only reasonable source of them would be an advent of government betraying the citizens trust.
I'm calling bullshit unless you have a source on this. It's incredibly difficult for a prior restraint on speech to satisfy the First Amendment.
 
Having cash and not spending it is not the same as being broke. It just means you’re unleveraged.
This is true, but I just don't believe that he cashed out all his investments just to sit on a Scrooge McDuck money vault, or to buy more properties when all his properties are money-losers. And I don't think the markets have been bad enough from 2014 onward that "Pull $200+ million out of the market and keep it out" was the best strategy.

It seems more likely to me that he just had to spend the money to service his various debts and obligations, and now it's gone.
 
Obama doesn't count?
Aside from the bribe from the Nobel Committee, which he didn't keep, Obama made his millions after he got out of office. That's when being president pays off. But that's no different than any other president.

It's congressmen that make their money in office. They're not paying for their helicopter rides.
 
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