🐱 “Own the Libs” Is Gradually Morphing Into “Kill the Libs”

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If Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis gets his way, people who merely attend a protest that results in property damage will be prosecuted for felonies. Yelling at someone in a restaurant as part of such a protest will be a criminal offense. And a driver who kills demonstrators with his car will not be liable for their deaths, as long as he is “fleeing for safety from a mob.”

These are just a few of the policies proposed by DeSantis in a package meant to chill dissent and punish those in the streets demanding an end to racist police violence. Republican leaders in the Florida legislature have promised to file the bill in 2021. By introducing it now, DeSantis clearly hopes to rile up Trump’s base in Florida, one of the most crucial swing states, with fears of black-clad cabals rampaging through their gated communities. But the specifics of the proposal are worth close consideration, because it represents a rising consensus among conservative leaders under Donald Trump: A governing ethos that once boiled down to “troll the libs” is steadily escalating toward “kill the libs.”

As my colleague Tom Scocca observed one year ago, Trump was elected as the ultimate expression of a political party more concerned with taunting and obstructing its opposition than with any specific governing agenda. Others have notedthat, for decades, the driving principle behind the Republican project has been the conviction that people of color and their political allies are undeserving of full participation in American democracy. The push to shield those who murder protesters with their cars from criminal or civil liability, which Republican legislators have attempted to do in at least 8 states, is a particularly gruesome offshoot of these two philosophies. It’s also not solving any problematic gap in the legal sphere: Property damage is already a criminal offense; self-defense is already an accepted legal defense for causing others harm. DeSantis and his peers are simply trying to create space within the law—or the perception of it—for their political supporters to kill their political opponents.

A few years ago, after Black Lives Matter demonstrators staged protests on highways and demonstrators blocked roads at Standing Rock, Republicans around the country proposed protections for people who drove their cars through crowds of protesters. James Alex Fields Jr., who killed Heather Heyer at a Charlottesville Unite the Right rally in 2017, may have been emboldened by these bills: According to a civil suit, before Fields drove his car into a crowd of demonstrators, one of the rally’s organizers falsely claimed that “driving over protesters blocking roadways isn’t an offense,” pointing to states that had considered such bills.

This hideous tactic of suppressing political dissent is spreading. This year, in the months since protests first erupted around the country after Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin killed George Floyd in May, two people have been killed by drivers who drove their cars through demonstrations. Dozens more have been hit. At one June protest in Memphis, two separate drivers, both of whom appear to have exhibited animosity toward protesters on social media, hit demonstrators within the span of one hour. The Sioux Rapids, Iowa, police chief called protesters “road bumps.” The Auxvasse, Missouri, police chief posted on Facebook, of protesters blocking roads, “You deserve to be run over. That will help cleanup [sic] the gene pool.”) Officers in severalother states have endorsed using cars to murder protesters.

Instead of taking action to quell this type of violence at protests, Trump and his supporters are attempting to incite more violence, and create more victims. After Kyle Rittenhouse, a 17-year-old who traveled from his home in Illinois to fight protesters in Kenosha, Wisconsin, killed two demonstrators with a military-style firearm he was not legally permitted to carry, Trump called it an “interesting situation” that looked justifiable. Rittenhouse “was trying to get away from them,” Trump said, of the victims. “[Rittenhouse] would have been—probably would have been killed.” That’s certainly a possibility, but instead, he killed two people.

As more Republicans spoke up about Rittenhouse, the rhetoric they used shifted from simple defense to full-on admiration. Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin said Rittenhouse’s victims were killed because the governor of Wisconsin didn’t accept Trump’s offer to send the National Guard to Kenosha. This lead people to “believe they’ve got to protect their own property and take matters into their own hands.” CNN’s Dana Bash asked him multiple times whether he condemned the shootings. All he’d say was “it’s a tragedy.” Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky has actually praised Rittenhouse for his “incredible restraint and presence and situational awareness.” Again, he killed two people.

In the popular conservative imagination, Rittenhouse has become more than just a teen who did something regrettable in the process of defending himself. By killing two protesters at a protest for Black lives, he became a righteous crusader for the Americans who really matter. Fox News host Tucker Carlson said Rittenhouse “had to maintain order when no one else would.” Former Florida attorney general Pam Bondi called him “a little boy out there trying to protect his community” and “mitigate the chaos out there.” Conservative writer Rod Dreher maintains that “Rittenhouse did no wrong”—he was ridding Kenosha of “the enemy of civilization,” the people “vandalizing, burning, and looting.” Trump supporters have called him a “hero” and raised hundreds of thousands of dollars to support his legal defense.

This applause for the killing of the right’s political nemeses is everywhere these days, popping up wherever the GOP can be found. It was there in one of Trump’s first tweets about the George Floyd protests: “When the looting starts, the shooting starts.” It was at the Republican National Convention, which honored Mark and Patricia McCloskey, a random St. Louis couple who earned a moment of fame for threatening protesters with guns, as esteemed representatives of the party. It’s in ads for Republicans like Georgia Sen. Kelly Loeffler, whose recent TV spot suggests she’ll “eliminate the liberal scribes,” and QAnon supporter Marjorie Taylor Greene, who posted a photo of herself brandishing an assault rifle next to images of Reps. Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Rashida Tlaib. “Squad’s worst nightmare,” it read.

The rhetoric is repulsive. But the GOP’s kill-the-libs ethos is not limited to violent rhetoric. It’s becoming policy. And I don’t just mean DeSantis’ bill—indifference to American death, as long as the Americans dying are liberals, is one of the many horrors we’ve been forced to witness this year. From the very start of the COVID-19 pandemic, Trump has explicitly, shamelessly hastened the deaths of tens of thousands of Americans living in blue states, then smirked as they perished. Every step of the administration’s pandemic response has been undergirded by the assumption that it’s fine for the president’s putative opponents to die. In March, the federal government shorted several blue states on the protective equipment and ventilators they’d requested from the national stockpile (while furnishing GOP-led Florida, which carries the most electoral votes of any swing state, with far more supplies than it needed at the time). One public health expert involved in the White House’s coronavirus task force told Vanity Fair that “the political folks” on the team dismissed the idea of producing a national pandemic response plan once it appeared that the virus “was going to be relegated to Democratic states.” According to a “senior administration official” who spoke to the Washington Post, it took evidence that COVID-19 was killing “our people” in red states and would probably start killing more people in swing states to get Trump to care about stopping the spread of the virus. Trump has also publicly argued against coronavirus-related relief bills because he believesthey’d help blue states more than red states.

These have always been the stakes of politics: When lawmakers block Medicaid expansion, slash funding for affordable housing, bow to police unions, or redistribute wealth from the bottom to the top, they’re expressing their beliefs about who deserves to live and who deserves to die, whose lives matter and whose lives don’t. The pandemic and the national uprising for racial justice are slightly new terrains, but the stakes haven’t changed. The quiet part is just getting louder.

Earlier this month, the president encouraged his supporters to stop counting the people who’ve died in blue states as part of the official U.S. COVID-19 death toll. “If you take the blue states out … we’re really at a very low level,” he said. It was as if their deaths, which resulted from his politicized negligence, were no loss at all.
 
Yes calling the libs out on their bullshit is literally murder.

God I really wish the right wing death squads the libs are always screeching about were real at this point, I'm just so tired of all this constant victim theatrics.
If there really were as many nazis in the US as they act like there are, we'd all be speaking German right now and these slacktivists would be nothing but blood stains on some nondescript concrete wall. Some of them like to claim that centrists and right-leaning Americans are literal nazis, so that's well over half the American population. If half of America suddenly went full nazi overnight, people like this wouldn't stand a chance. It'd be all over before their mass-produced protest signs could even leave the warehouse on a U-Haul.
 
really it conveys that communists are reeking soaked-pants terrified
If there really were as many nazis in the US as they act like there are, we'd all be speaking German right now and these slacktivists would be nothing but blood stains on some nondescript concrete wall. Some of them like to claim that centrists and right-leaning Americans are literal nazis, so that's well over half the American population. If half of America suddenly went full nazi overnight, people like this wouldn't stand a chance. It'd be all over before their mass-produced protest signs could even leave the warehouse on a U-Haul.
Seeing them realize in horror that they are not invincible, like Xerxes at the sight of his own blood at the end of 300, is absolutely intoxicating.

Kenosha Kyle was the turning point. With so many people coming to his defense, it has dawned on them that there are far more people who don't agree with them than Twitter, Reddit, and dinosaur news would have you believe. Getting rid of Deplorables is gonna be harder than they initially thought, even if they haul Drumpf off to Gitmo.

Again, I've said this here many times, but it feels good to repeat.
 
At most its a technique that relies entirely on the people you're blocking being unwilling to take your life for whatever reason. If you're facing people without that its just kinda suicide.

All according to plan. Their masters know they can only win in an optics game. A few dead useful idiots are nothing for them as long as they scream "what the fuck" for the cameras as their last words.

But I think they've severely misjudged how quickly normal people would get sick of them and their bullshit causes.
 
Seeing them realize in horror that they are not invincible, like Xerxes at the sight of his own blood at the end of 300, is absolutely intoxicating.
Oh man, you ain't kidding. The videos posted in the past few days from (I think) Portland of various protesters getting herded like cattle by the police, helplessly screeching "what the fuck?!?!" and "what are you doing?!?!" as they get mercilessly manhandled and pushed and beaten back with no negotiation or discussion or fucks given are absolutely sublime. Few things have given me as much joy and contentment in recent weeks.

They're so accustomed to being treated with kid gloves and allowed to act with impunity that it absolutely blows their minds when somebody finally pushes back. Those "what's happening?!?!" screams are real. They really don't understand it. And seeing it unfold in near-real time is a delight unlike any other.
 
"WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!"

Well, I know it looks like we're herding you, but don't believe your lying eyes. We're all going out for ice cream! Everybody climb into the van, but make sure to put on these special friendship bracelets first!
 
"WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!"

Well, I know it looks like we're herding you, but don't believe your lying eyes. We're all going out for ice cream! Everybody climb into the van, but make sure to put on these special friendship bracelets first!
The glowies vanning people need to spray-paint "free candy" on the sides of their vans, just for the lulz.
 
What's the old saying? Liberals think conservatives are evil, while conservatives just think liberals are wrong?

On this "article" though, all I hear is "we've only mostly attempted murders but now that our victims are shitposting on the internet about helicopter rides this society is lost. If they'd just had understood we were making them heroes by victimizing them, why don't they understand that no one is more important than victims in progressive society!"
 
Oh man, you ain't kidding. The videos posted in the past few days from (I think) Portland of various protesters getting herded like cattle by the police, helplessly screeching "what the fuck?!?!" and "what are you doing?!?!" as they get mercilessly manhandled and pushed and beaten back with no negotiation or discussion or fucks given are absolutely sublime. Few things have given me as much joy and contentment in recent weeks.

They're so accustomed to being treated with kid gloves and allowed to act with impunity that it absolutely blows their minds when somebody finally pushes back. Those "what's happening?!?!" screams are real. They really don't understand it. And seeing it unfold in near-real time is a delight unlike any other.
They really are just overgrown toddlers throwing a prolonged tantrum. Honestly, the cops giving them a few whacks is probably the best thing that could happen to them at this point. Someone has to impose the discipline that their shitty parents refused to.
 
See, if this isn't an indicator that most yanks just need a months intake of a benzo to chill out, I dinnae ken what is. The libs thinking every republican wants them dead is as daft as thinking every liberal wants to.. uh, what? Kill children.. let in all the immigrants.. take all the guns.. There's a bunch more there but jebus, I cannae be arsed listing it. Sooner folk just stop with the label smearing and see people for what they are, people, the sooner that powder keg moves away from the burning pile of shit that it's inching towards every sae often.
Liberals keep saying they want to let in all the immigrants and take all the guns, to be fair.

But yeah, I agree the citizens shouldn't see each other as enemies plotting to kill them. Again, it's not the conservatives telling people the Trump supporters want to kill them. It's not conservatives saying cops hunt black people for sport. It's not conservatives screaming "the only good cop is a dead cop".

I am already de escalated, I can't make the other side stop being crazy.
 
Liberals keep saying they want to let in all the immigrants and take all the guns, to be fair.

But yeah, I agree the citizens shouldn't see each other as enemies plotting to kill them. Again, it's not the conservatives telling people the Trump supporters want to kill them. It's not conservatives saying cops hunt black people for sport. It's not conservatives screaming "the only good cop is a dead cop".

I am already de escalated, I can't make the other side stop being crazy.
someone clearly needs to go to these protests with a big sign that says LOL CALM DOWN
 
"Gradually." Well, the protests had a body count long before St. Kyle of the AR did his thing ... But no one seems to give a shit about law-abiding citizens like David Dorn. When the body count from the riots outweighs the number of eejits shot by police this year, will everyone shut up and go home? Because I doubt it.

If we were living in a fascist police state full of Yahtzees, the riots would be over by now. In a world like that, rioters and dissenters get wiped out. Instead, we've been seeing a steady increase in gun sales, but all the damage is still being done by kids with molotov cocktails. Most people want to defend themselves and otherwise be left alone, that's all.

Goddamn it, stuff like this makes me so mad and sad. (And autistic, but that's a consequence of posting here.)
 
Like said in Rambo

"They drew first blood"

We will draw the last blood...

They are afraid

They really did, they're the ones that freaked the ever loving fuck out and have pushed things to the point where it seems like violence may be the only thing to protect any semblance of a functioning civilization.

There are no liberals anymore, just self-righteous authoritarian progressive cunts who try to convince you they're anything but. Certainly has nothing to do with the classical liberalism of the Founding Fathers, that's for certain.

It's sad, I still consider myself sympathetic to some aspects of what "liberal" used to mean but whatever was once there that was worthwhile is totally gone now, buried under identity hysteria.

It's been surreal to watch the complete erosion of standards at all of these outlets over the years, brought on by entryism and the intersectional social media bubble. Salon was originally a mainstream online publication that welcomed several viewpoints. The Daily Beast was originally a center right Huffington Post knock off. When Salon imploded financially a few years ago, most of the crazy seemed to transfer to Slate, which had managed to hold on to some threads of sanity until 2016. Now even the most mainstream outlets don't even hesitate to print fringe bullshit that would have been laughed off of Mother Jones less than a decade ago. I used to think that large, multi-national corporations were the most corrosive force in mainstream news, but holy fuck was I wrong.

There is no such thing as mainstream professional journalism anymore, the entire concept is now dead, there is only propaganda.

I think it has a very big relation to their personal egos. We may no like whoever gets in office but we still wish him to do well for himself and the country at large. The leftists hate whoever gets in office and prefer the whole country BURNS because of it. If they dont "win", no one should either.

Its honestly scary AND pathetic

They're literally like a child tossing the gameboard off the table when they aren't winning.

He failed. The world depicted in Starship Troopers is too awesome not to love.

So instead of gay, pathetic 2020 where everybody's afraid of coof / riots / saying the wrong thing on social media and getting cancelled, ST depicts a based society where sexy twentysomethings travel through space to kill ugly alien bugs that thoroughly deserve it.

There's no poverty, racism, sexism, fat people or troons but there are co-ed showers and live executions of violent criminals.

Would you like to know more?

Starship Troopers accidently illustrated what seems to simply work for human civilization and that's a society based on strength, not weakness, weakness being what a what a left wing society is based on.

It simply comes down to the fact that you have to be strong to survive.
 
When you start quoting “fleeing for safety from a mob.”, you should ask yourself if you aren't on the side of evil.
They think it's all fake, & that there's a bunch of wannabe cowboys who will jump at the chance to run people over and then pretend they were "fleeing from the mob" after the fact.

It's been surreal to watch the complete erosion of standards at all of these outlets over the years, brought on by entryism and the intersectional social media bubble. Salon was originally a mainstream online publication that welcomed several viewpoints. The Daily Beast was originally a center right Huffington Post knock off. When Salon imploded financially a few years ago, most of the crazy seemed to transfer to Slate, which had managed to hold on to some threads of sanity until 2016. Now even the most mainstream outlets don't even hesitate to print fringe bullshit that would have been laughed off of Mother Jones less than a decade ago. I used to think that large, multi-national corporations were the most corrosive force in mainstream news, but holy fuck was I wrong.
It's called progress, the faster today's fringe becomes tomorrow's mainstream, the more rapid the advance. Only an old fogey uneducated chud would worry about any cliffs down the road, every wacky progressive idea in the past was eventually accepted with great benefit to society, our teachers tell us so (because the ideas that fell by the wayside were forgotten).
 
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Running over a person or a larger animal can and usually does fuck regular cars up, so there's that as well.
So where are all those big trucks all Americans are supposed to have?

They've been at a few protests. The problem with "lifted" trucks is that it allows the person being run over to "roll", limiting the severity of the injuries.

Don't get me wrong, they will not be walking away from the encounter, but they have a better chance of surviving.

The absolute fucking idiocy of labeling an entire demographic as bloodthirsty brownshirted fascists and then assuming that these would-be goosesteppers would think twice about turning you into a greasy spot on Main St. is breathtaking.

Talk about mixed fucking messaging.

Liberals can't do consistency. Best I can tell they are all either Bi-polar or straight up schizophrenic to pinball between the extremes they believe in.

Real talk does anyone actually read the OPs to these threads?
Why?

I attempt to. I got to the point about Rittenhouse and bailed.

As for the topic at hand, I had hoped that time would calm people down after the 2016 election.

Instead people are more wound up than ever. You can't reason with these people. The only thing they understand is fear.

At this point I get the creeping feeling that Evo is right. Our generation is going to have to accept fascism and violence to protect ourselves from the barbarians inside our own house.
 
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