Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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Bullshit 'research ethics' guideline said:
Gay-related stressors, : range of negative behavioral, social, and health outcomes including social isolation, ejection, homophobia (fear/hatred of gay people), anxiety, and depression. It has also been found to increase gay and bisexual men's vulnerability to HIV infection.
But if you want to investigate the very mechanism through which "stressors" predispose gays to HIV infection, your research is unethical and will never be approved.

Liberal intellectualism is anti-truth and anti-knowledge.
 
Speaking of Butcher Dugi, here’s one of his victims:



ALEX MARKEL NEVER WANTED sex-reassignment surgery. Dr. Daniel Dugi of Portland’s Oregon Health & Science University (OHSU) hospital talked him into it, he claims. Alex (alias name) told me he had only wanted an orchiectomy (removal of the testicles) but Dr. Dugi refused and instead pressured him into getting sex-reassignment surgery. Being only 22 years old and feeling vulnerable he went along with it.

Alex told me that he had never expressed any interest in getting sex-reassignment surgery prior to meeting with Dr. Dugi one-on-one. I asked if he had told his therapist, doctor, or any OHSU team member that he wanted the surgery. He said he hadn’t. Alex said he felt like he “was very much pushed into transition” because of ongoing “mental health problems” that his therapist failed to properly diagnose.

What about the two letters attesting readiness required from a therapist before getting surgery? Alex never provided them with his own accord. Dr. Dugi personally sought them out Alex told me. He reached out to Alex’s therapist and got what he needed.

Dr. Dugi, who was new to the procedure at the time, left Alex severely disfigured in his attempt to create a vagina. “It looks like a mutilated penis and scrotum,” Alex told me during an interview. A full one-inch of the penis and all of the scrotal tissue remain. Alex told me the corrective surgery team analyzing him said his result is the most intact genitals post-surgery they’ve ever seen.

After being disfigured, Alex claims the hospital then tossed him out. No one explained what went wrong with his surgery or offered a remedy. He wasn’t given any support or follow-up care either.

Alex told me he believed his surgery was “rubber-stamped.” He said Dr. Dugi used “a bunch of trans people to experiment on and gain experience without being properly trained.” Alex went along with it after Dr. Dugi repeatedly refused his request for an orchiectomy. He said he felt confused and gave in under the pressure of an authority figure like Dr. Dugi.

Alex has since de-transitioned and uses male pronouns.

Poor guy, the whole industry stinks of people who act like that and try to push people into thinking they are trans
 
Poor guy, the whole industry stinks of people who act like that and try to push people into thinking they are trans

The surgeons do what the trans community also does. But the t.c. is way worse. For example this whole insane "egg" culture (egg is a term for trans in "denial", if your "egg cracks" you troon out).

Surgeons want money and guinea pigs, troons want to increase their numbers. A symbiotic relationship.
 
It doesn't "go wrong". It heals. Like, it closes up. It becomes a massive hunk of scar tissue. Your body treats it like a massive puncture wound. It's a bit like an ear ring, just much, much bigger. Infection is again, the fact its a giant gaping would you have to keep opening up.

Also, your body doesn't really "reject it" like it does a transplant. I know it's being anal, but it's because of how the vascular tissue is managed. That tissue still needs blood flow. Blood flow is difficult to get right. I had a friend almost die literally a few weeks back because the TOP fucking vascular surgeons couldn't get blood flow to his legs. This blood flow is the real big concern, as a huge chunk of the necrosis come from the fact these surgeons are not vascular.


I've often wondered why these surgeons don't use pedicle techniques to build a neopenis. Establishing blood flow from thigh or stomach skin. Women tended to have enough elasticity on the gut that there's extra to work with (if they can lose weight before starting the process).
 
The surgeons do what the trans community also does. But the t.c. is way worse. For example this whole insane "egg" culture (egg is a term for trans in "denial", if your "egg cracks" you troon out).

Surgeons want money and guinea pigs, troons want to increase their numbers. A symbiotic relationship.

Slight powerlevel but as soon as I was coming to the decision that I am not in fact trans I was egged out. It was like being in a cult.
 
I've often wondered why these surgeons don't use pedicle techniques to build a neopenis. Establishing blood flow from thigh or stomach skin. Women tended to have enough elasticity on the gut that there's extra to work with (if they can lose weight before starting the process).
some do: https://www.phallo.net/procedures/abdominal-phalloplasty.htm

edit: you can even keep your old vagina with this version of phalloplasty
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Slight powerlevel but as soon as I was coming to the decision that I am not in fact trans I was egged out. It was like being in a cult.

well done on getting out.
 
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I've often wondered why these surgeons don't use pedicle techniques to build a neopenis. Establishing blood flow from thigh or stomach skin. Women tended to have enough elasticity on the gut that there's extra to work with (if they can lose weight before starting the process).

Well that is basically what they do IIRC, but its a huge strip of thigh or arm tissue that's hooked up to your crotch. The problem is there's a lot of detail that A. I don't know and B. Neither to the GRS people when it comes to how that fucks with vascular shit.
 
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Well that is basically what they do IIRC, but its a huge strip of thigh or arm tissue that's hooked up to your crotch. The problem is there's a lot of detail that A. I don't know and B. Neither to the GRS people when it comes to how that fucks with vascular shit.
I know they do a modified version of it when they're taking thigh tissue, but not when using the arm skin. It seems like a bad idea not to
 
Good job escaping the gendercult. I never thought we'd have a body modification religion spreading so quickly, but here we are.

Well other religions do advocate some body modification (Islam and Judaism on chopping off foreskin, some hindus try to mimic the god's appearance, African tribal religions with the neck rings) but they are small fry compared to lower surgery.

When I was in the gendercult I was adamant I wouldn't go for it since you hear the horror stories, it was amazing how quickly someone would try and convince you that you can get a perfectly functioning neo-vag
 
When I was in the gendercult I was adamant I wouldn't go for it since you hear the horror stories, it was amazing how quickly someone would try and convince you that you can get a perfectly functioning neo-vag
How would anyone inside the cult get to hear the horror stories?
I sometimes feel with friends that want to troon out that only the two assholes outside the cult (me and another) have ever uttered the words "consider the downsides" to that person. Luckily that person seems to still listen to us... For now...
 
How would anyone inside the cult get to hear the horror stories?
I sometimes feel with friends that want to troon out that only the two assholes outside the cult (me and another) have ever uttered the words "consider the downsides" to that person. Luckily that person seems to still listen to us... For now...

Well for me I heard some troon who was talking about her experiences and how the 4 operations, dilators and UTIs would all be worth it in the end. He thought it was "inspirational"

I did some digging and found a fair few other people who were disappointed (understatement) by the work, it made me just nope the hell out. I mentioned to my gender therapist about it and she was claiming it was fake news and never happens. It appears that old psychotic me (not an understatement, I was misdiagnosed with GD when I really had a PD) was more rational than most of them.


I decided not to ever go for that, when I was asked by some other troon who was supposed to be my friend if I would have the op I was adamant I wouldn't and was labelled a no-true-Scotsman
 
Slight powerlevel but as soon as I was coming to the decision that I am not in fact trans I was egged out. It was like being in a cult.

I had a similar experience. The longer you stay the worse it gets. They know how manipulate insecure people.

Horrorcow Kevin Gibes for example groomed a man and pushed him to get his dick flayed. Of course he AND Kevin regret their multilation but there is no going back.
 
I had a similar experience. The longer you stay the worse it gets. They know how manipulate insecure people.

Horrorcow Kevin Gibes for example groomed a man and pushed him to get his dick flayed. Of course he AND Kevin regret their multilation but there is no going back.
I don't have much empathy for Kev since he is a sociopath, but can you imagine the level of buyer's remorse someone who was groomed would be feeling? And how painful it would be to have to not only live with the consequences of that decision, but also be forced by social pressure to say you're happy with it "even though there are issues"?

No, thank you. Joining a cult? Not even once.
 
Troon fuckholes/“neovaginas” really are next level fucking eldritch horrors.

The stories of hairs inside them probably freak me out the most.

Oh hey look, troons sticking tweezers inside their holes to pluck out the internal hairs... Just like real women!

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Just fucking imagine the horror when some drunk guy meets one in a club or something.

It’s late, he’s horny. She looks kinda funny, like really fucking big hands and shoulders, but she has a huge rack and he’s starting to see double so...

They start making out, those big hands grab his hand and pull it under her dress.

It feels weird, warm and kinda moist but just feels off. He starts fingering her and the-WHAT THE FUCK?! WHY IS THERE STUBBLE AND HAIR INSIDE THE SNATCH?!?


Fucking horrific.

from the trannysideshows thread by @Fapcop

Yep, srs disasters can have pubic hair growing inside. Pubes mixed with sweat, bacteria & whatever else is created in there = horror gunk
 
I had a similar experience. The longer you stay the worse it gets. They know how manipulate insecure people.

Horrorcow Kevin Gibes for example groomed a man and pushed him to get his dick flayed. Of course he AND Kevin regret their multilation but there is no going back.

Yes they take advantage of vulnerable people, be them kids who have been bullied for being slightly GNC or gay, people who have poor relationships with their parents to people with other mental illnesses

Looking back I have no idea what I was thinking at the time. I was practically a lolcow ironically. Once I had gotten real treatment for my delusions I snapped out of it with only a deep cynicism for the whole operation

from the trannysideshows thread by @Fapcop

Yep, srs disasters can have pubic hair growing inside. Pubes mixed with sweat, bacteria & whatever else is created in there = horror gunk

Yup I have seen some who have discharges from there, they claim it is a "period" since they use sanitary towels to absorb it (well I can't see another way to manage it.
 
Yes they take advantage of vulnerable people, be them kids who have been bullied for being slightly GNC or gay, people who have poor relationships with their parents to people with other mental illnesses

Looking back I have no idea what I was thinking at the time. I was practically a lolcow ironically. Once I had gotten real treatment for my delusions I snapped out of it with only a deep cynicism for the whole operation

The cult tried to suck in a family member of mine who fits your above description perfectly. I’ve known loads of TV/TS/Genderbender types over the years and I’ve always known it to be related to sex/fetish/degeneracy (and I mean that at least somewhat fondly!) so a preteen suddenly ‘coming out‘ just didn’t make sense to me. Since then I’ve been observing the current day troon cult from a distance in order to learn how best to protect that kid (and by extension, other kids everywhere).

I really don’t care how consenting adults behave indoors, but dragging kids into your club and campaigning to change laws to allow for better access to kids? Nope, not standing by while that happens.

I’ve gone from ‘happy to play along/party with the trannies‘ to ‘terf adjacent’/get the fuck off my lawn’.
 
The cult tried to suck in a family member of mine who fits your above description perfectly. I’ve known loads of TV/TS/Genderbender types over the years and I’ve always known it to be related to sex/fetish/degeneracy (and I mean that at least somewhat fondly!) so a preteen suddenly ‘coming out‘ just didn’t make sense to me. Since then I’ve been observing the current day troon cult from a distance in order to learn how best to protect that kid (and by extension, other kids everywhere).

I really don’t care how consenting adults behave indoors, but dragging kids into your club and campaigning to change laws to allow for better access to kids? Nope, not standing by while that happens.

I’ve gone from ‘happy to play along/party with the trannies‘ to ‘terf adjacent’/get the fuck off my lawn’.

See I utterly think some people in it are convinced that they are right. There is all sorts of bad science inside their circlejerks. Basically they reject anything that goes against their narrative.

I have been told that HRT is completely reversible (it isn't), giving a 8 year old puberty blockers won't have any negative effects and if the kid chooses to detrans he/she just stops taking them and goes on a late puberty (again bullshit) , neo vags and penises are indistinguishable from the real thing and doctors frequently think they are real oh and my favourite hormones will eliminate all your mental illnesses

The fact of the matter is apart from the autogenophiles , trans people are generally gay effeminate men who are conditioned to think that they are broken and need awful surgery to be happy. It's the lie I was sold. People just need to learn to accept who they are at the end of the day .
 
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