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Many sociopaths, though, are remarkably successful at short-term sex hookups. I suppose Elliot was an unsuccessful sociopath, since he had many sociopathic traits but lacked the superficial charm others have.
Serial killer fangirls
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Many sociopaths, though, are remarkably successful at short-term sex hookups. I suppose Elliot was an unsuccessful sociopath, since he had many sociopathic traits but lacked the superficial charm others have.
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If I am remembering of the right victim this was the brother of a boy who escaped in 88.
Either way I think these kawaii evil ppl fandoms are a bit of an offshoot from the whole Heltia thing. Of course there have been women and men who have been legit into killers (bleh) since forever, I am talking this animu shit.
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He was the younger brother of a boy Dahmer had been convicted of molesting in 1988.
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I've studied the whole serial killer groupie thing for criminology classes before and it's exactly as fucked up as it sounds. For those women it's the ultimate persecution complex + celebrity + bad boy + 'I can save him with love' relationship.
Having done a lot of in depth case studies and psych studies of various serial killers I can honestly that I feel pity for many of them, such as Dahmer and Gein (Gein isn't a serial killer but is constantly mislabeled as such so I'm including him). Most serial killers are not psychopaths and the vast majority have suffered massive sexual, physical and emotional abuse. Obviously they didn't have to kill and not all victims of abuse go on to hurt other people. What they went on to do is inexcusable.
The only serial killer with a massive following that I can't muster any sympathy for is Ted Bundy because he was a straight up sociopath with no trauma who just raped and killed because he enjoyed it and felt entitled to do so. I can sort of see the woobie angle for most of the serial killers that are worshipped, but women who worship Bundy have no excuse, they're just 100% fucked up.
Having done a lot of in depth case studies and psych studies of various serial killers I can honestly that I feel pity for many of them, such as Dahmer and Gein (Gein isn't a serial killer but is constantly mislabeled as such so I'm including him). Most serial killers are not psychopaths and the vast majority have suffered massive sexual, physical and emotional abuse. Obviously they didn't have to kill and not all victims of abuse go on to hurt other people. What they went on to do is inexcusable.
The only serial killer with a massive following that I can't muster any sympathy for is Ted Bundy because he was a straight up sociopath with no trauma who just raped and killed because he enjoyed it and felt entitled to do so. I can sort of see the woobie angle for most of the serial killers that are worshipped, but women who worship Bundy have no excuse, they're just 100% fucked up.
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Bundy was good looking so that means he gets infinite forgiveness.
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Stop talking about crime and the criminals themselves and get back to talking about the people who make chibi fan-art for them.
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We really need an off topic thread about serial killers and the like
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Agreed on Bundy, although I'd also include Dahmer in the list of people who had few to no redeeming characteristics. There was really nothing in his upbringing that gave him any excuse for what he did later in life. Richard Ramirez has something of the woobie to him, as he went through some genuinely heinous stuff as a child, including his insane uncle murdering a woman right in front of him. However, rather like Bundy and Dahmer, he reveled in his own acts of violence and the subsequent attention it got him. So he's really pretty unforgivable himself.
I can't really think of a single serial killer who one would be justified in saying found any kind of redemption. As Bob Keppel said about Ted Bundy after interviewing him for an extended period of time, these people basically have a black hole where a normal person has a personality. Nothing could ever fill that kind of void. Someone like Bundy would kill the entire human race and still be unsatisfied.
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You have a point there.
If I'd seen that post before this one, I might have skipped making it.
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It'll be a honey pot thread.
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Dahmer suffered emotional and physical abuse as a preteen/teen (although this isn't widely published) and was mentally ill. I don't think he had redeeming qualities, per se, but abuse and mental illness means the odds are heavily stacked against you. He was also gay, of course, so that's an added complication.
It's absolutely true that Bundy was good looking so most people thought he wasn't guilty. He was the perfect example of a sociopath; charming, manipulative, remorseless, narcissistic and so forth. He was also extremely intelligent and cunning. He manipulated cops into letting him study in a library outside the prison by saying he wanted to defend himself in court. They were extremely lax in guarding him because he was so well-spoken, polite and well-behaved and the second he was able he fled out a window, escaped and went on to commit 6 more murders. If he hadn't been so handsome and charismatic there's no way he'd have been left alone.
It's absolutely true that Bundy was good looking so most people thought he wasn't guilty. He was the perfect example of a sociopath; charming, manipulative, remorseless, narcissistic and so forth. He was also extremely intelligent and cunning. He manipulated cops into letting him study in a library outside the prison by saying he wanted to defend himself in court. They were extremely lax in guarding him because he was so well-spoken, polite and well-behaved and the second he was able he fled out a window, escaped and went on to commit 6 more murders. If he hadn't been so handsome and charismatic there's no way he'd have been left alone.
In that way it's easy to see why he had so many women snowed. They were convinced he was an innocent victim and never hurt anyone.
There are basically two different kind of serial killer groupie. A) the kind who believe their man is innocent and B) the kind who know they're guilty and still want them.
Common excuses you hear from group B are 'it was in the past', 'he's changed', 'he was driven to it by drugs/alcohol/abuse', 'he knows he did the wrong thing and he's sorry for it', 'he said I changed him', 'he's found christ'. For the most part these women suppress the reality of their crimes because it's too hard to deal with the reality that the man you love raped, tortured and killed another human being.
There are some groupies who are actually turned on by the idea of being with a murderer and knowing they could snap. They are obviously sick fucks themselves and they're very rare, thank god.
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Jeffery Dahmer may have found some sort of redemption in religion later in his life, whether it was sincere or not is up for debate.
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10 years from now, people like Chris, ADF and Holden will have fangirls who will try to draw them as kawaii uguu bishonens
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Would Slathate's ungodly relationship with Elliot Rodgers be considered?
His story is basically if someone DID love him he wouldn't of become a joke.
His story is basically if someone DID love him he wouldn't of become a joke.
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Give it a few years.
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I've seen several Elliot Rodger fangirls on sites like tumblr. I'm pretty sure some of them are posted in the thread in the Loveshy subforum.
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I had a friend who had a thing for Manson. And in a legit way. Needless to say, we don't talk anymore.
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it's mostly a joke.
Now I've been 11 pages in, and I have yet to see any love for the Unabomber.
guess 12 year olds hate reading papers and stories that bash on their liberal beliefs or something.
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Can't these girls just fall in love with Bieber or whoever is the new boyband? Why fall in love with people who have killed innocent people?
The Boston Marathon bomber asshole actually had fans in the courtroom if I had read correctly. They legitimately wept when the judge gave out the death sentence. I have to ask this:
Why?
Why even shed tears for a cold hearted killer who has not a single shred of human remorse for what he did?
The Boston Marathon bomber asshole actually had fans in the courtroom if I had read correctly. They legitimately wept when the judge gave out the death sentence. I have to ask this:
Why?
Why even shed tears for a cold hearted killer who has not a single shred of human remorse for what he did?
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At least some of the sympathy for the Boston Bomber apparently comes from him being Chechen and thus picked on by the rest of Russia, or something.
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~*~*THE BOSTON BOMBER IS TOO HANDSOME*~*~
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