US First Presidental Debate - Boomerdome 2020

WELCOME TO THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/08/14/presidential-debates/

Time: Starts at 6:10-6:30pm to 7:40-8pm PST / 8:10-8:30pm to 9:40-10pm CST / 9:10-9:30pm-10:40-11pm EST

Where to watch:

Location: Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland

Moderator: Chris Wallace, anchor of “Fox News Sunday”


Competitors:

Former Vice President Joe Biden


President Donald Trump

Details: The debate will be 90 minutes long and have no commercial breaks. There will be no opening statements, and instead Wallace will dive right in with the first question to Trump. It will be divided into six 15-minute segments that Wallace has chosen. They are:
1) The Trump and Biden records;
2) The Supreme Court;
3) Covid-19;
4) the economy;
5) race and violence in cities;
6) the integrity of the election.

After the debates a poll will be posted on who you think won this first debate. Have lots of fun, keep the commentary fresh as I'm sure we've all heard many of the same lines for months and enjoy the beginning of the end of this presidential election cycle. Just as a reminder, on October 7th there will be a Vice Presidential debate between Kamala Harris and Mike Pence at the University of Utah in Salt Lake City, Utah.
You can view Joe Biden's megathread here, and Donald Trump's megathread here

Previous Democratic debates-
First Democratic debate (two nights)
Second Democratic debate
Third Democratic debate
Fourth Democratic debate
Fifth Democratic debate
Sixth Democratic debate
Seventh Democratic debate
Eighth Democratic debate
Ninth Democratic debate
Tenth Democratic debate
Eleventh Democratic Debate

Democratic primary results-
Super Tuesday
Mini-super Tuesday

Have fun!

 

[MrJokerRager]

Given how onsided our poll is, there is another forum out there I posted in the TDS thread that is like a reverse of this forum literally. They use the same forum design as us but forgot the name of the website.

I wonder if reddit allowed polls, what would be their numbers on Trump versus Biden.

 

[Dan Abrams]

Biden is a fucking pussy. Trump lied when he said that Biden called black people “super predators” in the 90s - that was Hillary. And Biden just took it and didn’t correct him.

Maybe he’s so far gone he thought he actually did say it.

 

[Dafuqisdis?]

I'm gonna go against the grain here and say the Hunter shot was a bit low.

Joe seemed genuinely distressed when he though Trump was referring to Beau.

Other then that it was pretty much what I expected. With Trump taking a slight win only because he acted just like you'd expect while Biden gave up some soundbites and generally came off as less able.

Over all, its a loss for America. A necessary loss as I want another GoP win but I wish some decorum would return to US politics. Such a deep divide cannot go on forever without repercussions.

The Hunter stuff goes directly to impechment and how his corrupt father protected him by pressuring the Ukraine to fire the prosecutor that was looking into Bursima.

I don't really give a fuck about decorum with the left's escalating campaigns of violence, disinformation and silencing of dissent. Fighting back can get ugly but it's necessary. Trump screws up and gives our enemies free ammunition too often though.

One of the things that I think Trump is trying to do with these debates is press Biden really hard and mentally exhaust him. Putting money in the bank that might come back with interest in the 2nd and 3rd debates. It might work or it might not.

 

[Local Fed]

I wonder if reddit allowed polls, what would be their numbers on Trump versus Biden.

It would be like 95% for Biden because most of the Trump voters would be banned.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

Reddits still berning with hatred.

Spoiler: ANGERY

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Nothing is more pleasing than seeing stupid Reddit posters claiming to be "Punk" despite trying to support the most blue-blooded bullshit party that mass corporates love because of globalization that fucks over the poor - by being a golem terrorizing the normies in urban areas.

Really insightful shit. "Man, the news media and feds I hated so much earlier now tell me Orange man might have said something racist? Shit, now I'm REALLY worked up."

 

[Allanon]

Given how onsided our poll is, there is another forum out there I posted in the TDS thread that is like a reverse of this forum literally. They use the same forum design as us but forgot the name of the website.

I wonder if reddit allowed polls, what would be their numbers on Trump versus Biden.

It would depend on the subreddit. r/newyork would be massively in favor of Biden, r/whateverrightwingsubdidn'tgetnuked will be massively in favor of Trump, r/politics or any other default sub may end up pretty equal just because the most people will see it.

 

[Baroque]

Lol based on these replies a lot of you are about to be very surprised by how sane, rational Voters viewed the debate vs. how you viewed it.

 

[queue-anon]

This. Trump was rude and pushy as usual, but he kept Biden on the back foot and forced him to step all over left-wing sacred cows. "Violence is never acceptable," "most cops are great," "I don't agree with defunding the police," "I don't support a green new deal." Probably the most humiliating moment was Biden claiming he supports police followed by Trump asking him to name a single law enforcement endorsement he's received. And he got Biden to cop to his son being a crackhead. Biden was constantly on the defensive, giving up ground. His view seems to be that by coming out swinging, Trump is giving up some form of moral high ground to him so he'd rather retreat

Biden denouncing the demands of the lunatic fringe isn't bad for him though. Most of the lunatics aren't voting; the few who are will vote for him anyway. Meanwhile, most of America needs to hear he denounces violence and supports law enforcement if he's going to have any kind of a shot in five weeks.

 

[saralovesjuicyfruit]

Biden is a fucking pussy. Trump lied when he said that Biden called black people “super predators” in the 90s - that was Hillary. And Biden just took it and didn’t correct him.

Maybe he’s so far gone he thought he actually did say it.

I think you misunderstood. He was pointing out Biden’s role in drafting the 1994 Crime Bill, which targeted these “super predators”. Yes there’s that clip of Hillary saying that line, but she was talking about the contents of this same bill, of which Joe Biden drafted the Senate version.

 

[Allanon]

Trump has pulled almost a solid 7,000 votes ahead of Biden in that poll.
Donald Trump - 51% (128,150 votes)
Joe Biden - 49% (121,401 votes)
249,551 Total Votes

Most of the night was anywhere from 100-1,000 vote difference.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

Biden denouncing the demands of the lunatic fringe isn't bad for him though. Most of the lunatics aren't voting; the few who are will vote for him anyway. Meanwhile, most of America needs to hear he denounces violence and supports law enforcement if he's going to have any kind of a shot in five weeks.

Not denouncing ANTIFA was a bad move. Most people view the riots with hatred and any single person or community that encounters them absolutely despises them. I get wanting to back progressives, but I mean, he could have at least said something like "I support people fighting for racial justice and equality peacefully, but I don't stand for a bunch of white kids looting and vandalizing everything."

 

[GuntPunt]

I just saw some posts on the debate from people I know with hardcore TDS, like they literally break into impromptu monologues about how much they hate Trump. Their comments were along the lines of "fuck Trump, Trump is an asshole, I hate him so much" but they quickly segued into "Biden sucks, he's so lame, I can't vote for this guy." And one of them finished off with "I'd rather vote for a houseplant than either of these fucking guys."

Biden is so feeble he can't motivate someone with chronic aggravated TDS to vote for him.

Thats the name of the game.

I think Trump's main goals were to paint Biden in a worse light and call him out on progressive policy. By bringing him into the mud, Biden is losing that moral shine that they were hoping to coast on. That's not the main goal though.

The bigger prize of the night was the shattering of the progressive line tiptoe Biden was trying to do. He knows his party is in a civil war between progressives and moderates. He CANNOT be pro Green New Deal and fracking at the same time. Likewise, he can't go full BLM or he risks losing Wisconsin and Minnesota. Trump was calling him out on both, in effort to make him alienate one of his major voting groups to be demoralized.

He got Biden to both back and condemn the Green New Deal in five seconds, fucking with both PA and OH frackers and AOC and Bernie simps with such whiplash, they're going to the polls in neckbraces. He outright condemned the BLM violence and said right wing groups were doing it, not pleasing anyone.

Decorum wise, it was a shitshow, and there were some Trump fuckups, but don't pretend Biden won unscathed. At worst, it was a partisan draw, and changed nothing in the long run.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

Biden denouncing the demands of the lunatic fringe isn't bad for him though. Most of the lunatics aren't voting; the few who are will vote for him anyway. Meanwhile, most of America needs to hear he denounces violence and supports law enforcement if he's going to have any kind of a shot in five weeks.

The problem is that he's contradicting himself, he's pandering to radicals and those condemning them at the same time, which isn't going to work.
He's just saying what he thinks people want to hear from him at the moment. Career politicians such as Biden are the reason Trump is in the office, because people are tired of liars and hypocrites.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Biden denouncing the demands of the lunatic fringe isn't bad for him though. Most of the lunatics aren't voting; the few who are will vote for him anyway. Meanwhile, most of America needs to hear he denounces violence and supports law enforcement if he's going to have any kind of a shot in five weeks.

The issue with Biden is that if he rejected the lunatic demands from the getgo he’d be fine but he has them on his site and in the debate it was less than five minutes he went from bashing the Green New Deal to praising it.

 

[Dafuqisdis?]

Biden denouncing the demands of the lunatic fringe isn't bad for him though. Most of the lunatics aren't voting; the few who are will vote for him anyway. Meanwhile, most of America needs to hear he denounces violence and supports law enforcement if he's going to have any kind of a shot in five weeks.

I agree with this but the fringe doesn't seem to be as fringe anymore. Maybe that's more twitter than real life but I don't think so. Just look at how much support Bernie has gotten in the last 2 primaries.

He can't tack to the left on this stuff though or he would hurt himself more.

The problem is that he's contradicting himself, he's pandering to radicals and those condemning them at the same time, which isn't going to work.
He's just saying what he thinks people want to hear from him at the moment. Career politicians such as Biden are the reason Trump is in the office, because people are tired of liars and hypocrites.

Career politicians are career politicians because talking out of both sides of your mouth works. In November we'll find out if Trump was a one off or if it heralds a bigger sea change.

 

[Mr. Skeltal]

Not a single one of those US politicians are heads of state you delusional commie. Also I don't remember Trump using those during a Presidential debate but Shillary is indeed a cunt so had he called her one my point still stands because the bitch was never President of anything in her grifting life.

He did call Kim Jong Un "Little Rocket Man" in the lead up to the Nork peace talks iirc.

 

[ScrappyLobsterchu]

Fuck you guys. You didn't vote for Yang and now I have to watch Joe Biden.

In all seriousness, I really wish that there was more policy discussion and less tellings each other to shut up. I know that's optimistic as fuck, but I feel that both Biden and Trump are weak when it comes to actually discussing policy. Trump has blackpilled so many people on him that continuing to be himself won't win him more voters, where as if he actually talked policy he would have a chance to pull in more undecided voters, at least imo.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

I agree with this but the fringe doesn't seem to be as fringe anymore. Maybe that's more twitter than real life but I don't think so. Just look at how much support Bernie has gotten in the last 2 primaries.

The only reason Bernie was popular is college kids are so retarded they honestly believed they would get be forgiven on student loan debt. You would think with things like Kickstarter or twitch thots they would learn about being cheated by now but welp;

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

Fuck you guys. You didn't vote for Yang and now I have to watch Joe Biden.

In all seriousness, I really wish that there was more policy discussion and less tellings each other to shut up. I know that's optimistic as fuck, but I feel that both Biden and Trump are weak when it comes to actually discussing policy. Trump has blackpilled so many people on him that continuing to be himself won't win him more voters, where as if he actually talked policy he would have a chance to pull in more undecided voters, at least imo.

Trump doesn't really have a choice, the way I see it. His opposition wasn't going to be fair and honest, they aren't willing to discuss policy in good faith. They want to bury him by whatever means necessary.

Career politicians are career politicians because talking out of both sides of your mouth works. In November we'll find out if Trump was a one off or if it heralds a bigger sea change.

And for that reason they can go fuck themselves. If I was going to vote for someone, it would be a person with a concrete position, not someone flip-flopping back and forth to appease potential voters. I need to know that they actually fucking believe in what they say.

 

[queue-anon]

The issue with Biden is that if he rejected the lunatic demands from the getgo he’d be fine but he has them on his site and in the debate it was less than five minutes he went from bashing the Green New Deal to praising it.

I'm also feeling it's too little, too late, and I don't think he's doing this strenuously enough. Although at least he didn't go as far as Jerrold "Pants Shitter" Nadler in denying rioting is happening at all.