US First Presidental Debate - Boomerdome 2020

WELCOME TO THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/08/14/presidential-debates/

Time: Starts at 6:10-6:30pm to 7:40-8pm PST / 8:10-8:30pm to 9:40-10pm CST / 9:10-9:30pm-10:40-11pm EST

Where to watch:

Location: Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland

Moderator: Chris Wallace, anchor of “Fox News Sunday”


Competitors:

Former Vice President Joe Biden


President Donald Trump

Details: The debate will be 90 minutes long and have no commercial breaks. There will be no opening statements, and instead Wallace will dive right in with the first question to Trump. It will be divided into six 15-minute segments that Wallace has chosen. They are:
1) The Trump and Biden records;
2) The Supreme Court;
3) Covid-19;
4) the economy;
5) race and violence in cities;
6) the integrity of the election.

After the debates a poll will be posted on who you think won this first debate. Have lots of fun, keep the commentary fresh as I'm sure we've all heard many of the same lines for months and enjoy the beginning of the end of this presidential election cycle. Just as a reminder, on October 7th there will be a Vice Presidential debate between Kamala Harris and Mike Pence at the University of Utah in Salt Lake City, Utah.
You can view Joe Biden's megathread here, and Donald Trump's megathread here

Previous Democratic debates-
First Democratic debate (two nights)
Second Democratic debate
Third Democratic debate
Fourth Democratic debate
Fifth Democratic debate
Sixth Democratic debate
Seventh Democratic debate
Eighth Democratic debate
Ninth Democratic debate
Tenth Democratic debate
Eleventh Democratic Debate

Democratic primary results-
Super Tuesday
Mini-super Tuesday

Have fun!

 

[Feline Supremacist]

He did call Kim Jong Un "Little Rocket Man" in the lead up to the Nork peace talks iirc.

Technically he's a enemy head of state who's called the President (past and present) much worse. Personally I don't think it's much of an insult and I get the feeling Kim likes Trump.

 

[contradiction of terns]

Whew, lads. It took me longer to get caught up on the thread than it did to watch the debate.


I'm not saying anything that hasn't been said before, but I personally feel like Trump won. Mostly due to him getting Biden to say, "I AM THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!" before proceeding to disavow all the policies that he was supposedly adopting to keep the far-left and Bernie bros on the wagon.

After reading the many instances of how the left seems to be depressed, anxious, and generally dissatisfied following the debates I think that shows that Biden gave a weaker performance. Trump probably didn't lose anyone, and might have even scored some points with the alt-right by giving the Proud Boys a shout out. Biden didn't flat out disavow Antifia, but at the same time he crapped on all the things important to them, like defunding the police, etc.

It was a great dumpsterfire of a debate and I really hope that we get a second one. I'm kind of excited to see what happens between Pence and Harris now.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Trump doesn't really have a choice, the way I see it. His opposition wasn't going to be fair and honest, they aren't willing to discuss policy in good faith. They want to bury him by whatever means necessary.

Hopefully Steve Scully plays fair with both candidates, but I think there's a reason why the third debate (if Joe makes it thus far) has a woman moderator from NBC. The third debate will be even more of a shitshow that yesterday's.

 

[Dafuqisdis?]

Trump doesn't really have a choice, the way I see it. His opposition wasn't going to be fair and honest, they aren't willing to discuss policy in good faith. They want to bury him by whatever means necessary.




And for that reason they can go fuck themselves. If I was going to vote for someone, it would be a person with a concrete position, not someone flip-flopping back and forth to appease potential voters. I need to know that they actually fucking believe in what they say.

The media has made sure it's a street fight no matter what Trump would want to do. The thing is though this sort of thing might alienate normies that Biden needs to put him over the top so the press might be playing themselves here. Kinda like when they boosted the Trump candidacy because they thought Hillary would trounce him.

 

[Vaclav]

It had zero influence on any voters. Nothing here swayed any undecideds. Nor did it move anybody already set in their positions.

Biden walked back every policy change leftists are hoping for. Defunding police, green new deal, UHC, all abandoned. It won't convince them to vote for Trump but they sure won't have any motivation to vote for Joe. Trump was repeating stuff about "the far left base" over and over and for good reason. The leftist insurgents know they're in the crosshairs of both Trump and the Democrats. They're going to push against the neoliberals in the Dem party, and the party leadership will have two choices.:

1. Cave to the far left to get their votes and take positions that 90% of voters abhor.

2. Fight to silence them and tear apart the party in the process.

 

[derpherp2]

Lol based on these replies a lot of you are about to be very surprised by how sane, rational Voters viewed the debate vs. how you viewed it.

The common consensus is that it was a shitshow that contributed no new information, how is that surprising?

What next, DRUMPF MEAN is supposed to be some enlightening factor or some shit? It's why a lot of us voted for him. We want mean at this point, not some demented retard that can't even keep his kid in line, much less probably an entire country of entitlted man babies with drug problems.

 

[Hollywood Hitler]

Biden denouncing the demands of the lunatic fringe isn't bad for him though. Most of the lunatics aren't voting; the few who are will vote for him anyway. Meanwhile, most of America needs to hear he denounces violence and supports law enforcement if he's going to have any kind of a shot in five weeks.

This moment should get as much play as the "fine people on both sides" thing, but it won't.

When they mentioned Charlottesville, I was like "here we go again." That's their only go-to for "muh racisms," and it's fucking pathetic. One person died. 3 years ago.
When Trump said "fine people on both sides," do they seriously believe he was talking about both the neo-Nazis and ANTIFA? How does that work, are they that retarded? The answer, of course, is an outstanding yes. These far-Left demonstrations in recent months have caused far more deaths and irreversible damage than the faggy alt-Right one.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

This moment should get as much play as the "fine people on both sides" thing, but it won't.

When they mentioned Charlottesville, I was like "here we go again." That's their only go-to for "muh racisms," and it's fucking pathetic. One person died. 3 years ago.
When Trump said "fine people on both sides," do they seriously believe he was talking about both the neo-Nazis and ANTIFA? How does that work, are they that retarded? The answer, of course, is an outstanding yes. These far-Left demonstrations in recent months have caused far more deaths and irreversible damage than the faggy alt-Right one.

There's another thing I don't see people talk about. I don't remember far-right/white supremacists pushing any policies, let alone Trump or his people accepting them - they don't have any foothold as far as legislation is concerned. Their numbers are insignificant and pretty much everyone despises them.
Far-left is a whole different story, however. Green New Deal was straight up communist, and was even voted on in the fucking Senate. The whole police defunding thing. And majority of the media is on their side.

Boggles my mind that some people can't see this.

 

[behavioral swamp thang]

I'm gonna go against the grain here and say the Hunter shot was a bit low.

I disagree. A child is a DIRECT reflection of the parent. Biden has proven he's raised a stripper fucking, child traffiking, Russian colluding, China-bribe-taking, love child having crack head. AND most of Hunter's scandals happened in his fucking late 40's, like holy shit. A career degenerate that has probably been railing lines since he was 14. None of Trumps half a dozen or so children even come close to being even 1/10th of the fuck up Hunter Biden is.

 

[Trust Me I Know]

Or that Richard Spencer is a Biden supporter. That could have been a kill shot. Dammit Trump all you to do when asked that was say something along the lines of "Why are you asking me to denounce white supremcy? Their leader supports Joe."

 

[RodgerDodger]

Biden walked back every policy change leftists are hoping for. Defunding police, green new deal, UHC, all abandoned. It won't convince them to vote for Trump but they sure won't have any motivation to vote for Joe. Trump was repeating stuff about "the far left base" over and over and for good reason. The leftist insurgents know they're in the crosshairs of both Trump and the Democrats. They're going to push against the neoliberals in the Dem party, and the party leadership will have two choices.:

1. Cave to the far left to get their votes and take positions that 90% of voters abhor.

2. Fight to silence them and tear apart the party in the process.

It won't make a difference. The leftists know the scam. Biden is just "rebranding" to change the language in order to make it seem less noticeable to the normies.

 

[Hollywood Hitler]

I disagree. A child is a DIRECT reflection of the parent. Biden has proven he's raised a stripper fucking, child traffiking, Russian colluding, China-bribe-taking, love child having crack head. AND most of Hunter's scandals happened in his fucking late 40's, like holy shit. A career degenerate that has probably been railing lines since he was 14. None of Trumps half a dozen or so children even come close to being even 1/10th of the fuck up Hunter Biden is.

I think the worst thing one of Trump's kids did was hunt an endangered Rhino.

 

[L50LasPak]

Something that struck me the most in retrospect is how much like shit both of them looked. Biden looked like he was taxidermied, and Trump looked like a corpse made of plastic bags.

 

[derpherp2]

It won't make a difference. The leftists know the scam. Biden is just "rebranding" to change the language in order to make it seem less noticeable to the normies.

Again the trick here is that the useful idiots think they're part of the plan where in reality they're just being appeased while the knife slides slowly inside their chest cavity. Nothing says "part of your our plan more than a common enemy and a common "victim.""

You have to convince them the helicopter ride is good so you can get them into throwing-off position.

 

[Someone Awful]

Trump has pulled almost a solid 7,000 votes ahead of Biden in that poll.
Donald Trump - 51% (128,150 votes)
Joe Biden - 49% (121,401 votes)
249,551 Total Votes

Most of the night was anywhere from 100-1,000 vote difference.

Which poll are you referring to?

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

Which poll are you referring to?

Just the polls, you know the ones
Polls

 

[Neil]

But when someone runs for the office of President of the United States one thing they must absolutely be able to do is control themselves and Biden can barely fucking function even when he's being streamed worldwide. It's nothing new, Biden went after people on the campaign trail and those are people he's suppose to win over to his side. Yeah Trump can be a bully but America is a bully, it's why we're the sole superpower on earth. Biden can't keep Trump from rattling him, how the fuck is he going to keep Putin, who is a ruthless politician but also highly educated, multilingual and was a highly respected KGB official in the DDR, or Xi, also a highly experienced and shrewd politician who has literal cadres of CCP functionaries keeping him appraised of everything that happens in the US, from bullying him (and the American people, by default)?

Do you really think Trump wasn't rattled when he spent the time thinking up all of those childish nicknames for his opponents? Is this just another move in his big brain 5D chess game because he's le ebin shitposter in chief?

He's challenging Trump for the office of President. If he can't control himself during a debate where he has every advantage and resorts to name calling, that shows he's not fit to hold the office of President of the United States.

Again, you're having a much too severe overreaction to Biden calling him a "clown", when his opponent has spent his entire political career throwing around many more childish insults. Are you seriously going to ignore Trump doing the same? Sounds like double standard.

If saying the word "clown" disqualifies Biden from being the president, holy shit, the past 4 years (and likely the next 4 years) of Trump must've been my imagination.

Why is it only okay for Trump to being an aggressive "bully" throwing around insults? If Trump wants to devolve into insult flinging and interrupting, let Joe throw in a few old fashioned boomer "clown"s or "poltroon"s or "knucklehead"s or "scoundrel"s, then. Why should the rules of civil decorum only apply to Democrats? "America is a bully," so let the candidates act like bullies towards each other, then. Especially if it's in a shithouse debate where the retard cuck moderator doesn't have any balls and allows the two debaters to talk over each other.

Things like this show how differently people see Trump compared to any other politician. Any other politician acting like he does would be shitcanned immediately. That recent tax scandal thing would've sunk Obama or Bush or Clinton or anyone before him. The bar for him is super low in regards to decorum or accountability.
Meanwhile people hold Biden to a higher standard and expect him to act with the utmost high of moral standards without fail or folly.

 

[Vaclav]

Antifa has no chairman like the Proud Boys do, nor does it have an "elder chapter", nor does it have a personal lawyer.
They're about as organized as Chanology was.

They have an organization, it's just covert. There's an officer corps, training facilities, and many support organizations. But none of this is discussed openly, and most of the frontline bashers don't know about it.

Someone posted a tweet a while back from an Antifa member saying something like "The threat of getting arrested is scaring many comrades away. I have backers so I know I'll be okay but for a lot of these guys they can't afford to risk getting busted somewhere where our lawyers can't get them out quickly." People who join Antifa and prove their talent are contacted by the hidden leadership structure and invited to join it, the less talented people are disposable meat shields.

 

[Drunk and Pour]

I only saw 40 minutes of this, but I'm not super psyched for the next two debates. It's going to be nothing but gotchas for Trump, and Trump just can't help himself.

I know he said he didn't prepare for this, and that may or may not be true, but he better prepare for the next two. He should know exactly what gotchas the moderator is going to ask, ie; white supremacy, climate change, COVID, and give a definitive answer. He should make sure he isn't baited by the moderator into losing his cool. But he was right on every time he called Biden out.

I've had some more thoughts (and more drinks) on this.

If I remember correctly, the first debate between Trump and Hillary, Trump did poorly. After that, he did well. I don't want to say he's playing 4D chess, but maybe this was a good primer for when he goes up against hostile moderators. He's seen Biden's weak points. The media is going to harp on all of Trump's mistakes. The next few weeks, the media will play their hand on what exactly they will try to hammer Trump on. He gave them their talking points, and when they try to gotcha with them, he'll have an answer.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

And the covid thing again, harping on Trump doing rallies and a lot of people showing up, as if they were forced to.
Condemn that as endangering people but not the "mostly peaceful protests"? Nice one, Biden.