2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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I wish people cared as much about dropping bombs on brown children as they do about debate decorum.
The theory is that how a potential President acts when millions of eyes are on him on camera reflects how he will act when he's in the war room and accountable to no-one but himself. Of course, that's ignoring the fact that following that logic, Bill Clinton would have bent someone over and fucked them on live tv, but that's besides the point.
 
I was watching Trump's speech in Duluth and he brought up that nine mayors in the Iron Range had endorsed him. I decided to dig around and I found this,

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The more we learn about Minnesota, the more I'm willing to bet on Trump taking the state. He's no doubt getting the Iron Range outside maybe Cook County at this point. All he has to do is to hold on to his support in the rest of the state and make gains with Minneapolis/St. Paul and maybe Olmsted County and he has the state. It also helps that Trump discredited Biden's claim of being a decent, presidential man when he baited Biden into slinging insults at him. If there is the Minnesotan niceness effect that's helping Biden like what Baris from People's Pundit Daily described, it won't be there for undecided voters.

I could see it flip red by a few percentage.
 
I was watching Trump's speech in Duluth and he brought up that nine mayors in the Iron Range had endorsed him. I decided to dig around and I found this,

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The more we learn about Minnesota, the more I'm willing to bet on Trump taking the state. He's no doubt getting the Iron Range outside maybe Cook County at this point. All he has to do is to hold on to his support in the rest of the state and make gains with Minneapolis/St. Paul and maybe Olmsted County and he has the state. It also helps that Trump discredited Biden's claim of being a decent, presidential man when he baited Biden into slinging insults at him. If there is the Minnesotan niceness effect that's helping Biden like what Baris from People's Pundit Daily described, it won't be there for undecided voters.

I anticipate him flipping Minnesota at this rate. And I can see him winning Wisconsin and Michigan again. The "Blue Wall" may very well be totally gone-zo.

I think that a demographic to pay attention to right now are the Hispanic Americans. Seems that Trump is gaining a lot of traction with them. Is it possible that he may have steered this ever-growing demographic towards the GOP? This election will answer that question, I think. If it happens, then the Dems are so flipping screwed for a very long time, and their hopes of turning Texas blue could come to a screeching halt if that demographic shows big enough support for Trump in November.

We'll see what happens!
 
I anticipate him flipping Minnesota at this rate. And I can see him winning Wisconsin and Michigan again. The "Blue Wall" may very well be totally gone-zo.

I think that a demographic to pay attention to right now are the Hispanic Americans. Seems that Trump is gaining a lot of traction with them. Is it possible that he may have steered this ever-growing demographic towards the GOP? This election will answer that question, I think. If it happens, then the Dems are so flipping screwed for a very long time, and their hopes of turning Texas blue could come to a screeching halt if that demographic shows big enough support for Trump in November.

We'll see what happens!
It could be possible, it depends on how things shape up in November we could have the Virus getting worse, a terrorist attack, more riots, or hell Biden saying stupid shit on stage like a gamer word.
 
I anticipate him flipping Minnesota at this rate. And I can see him winning Wisconsin and Michigan again. The "Blue Wall" may very well be totally gone-zo.

I think that a demographic to pay attention to right now are the Hispanic Americans. Seems that Trump is gaining a lot of traction with them. Is it possible that he may have steered this ever-growing demographic towards the GOP? This election will answer that question, I think. If it happens, then the Dems are so flipping screwed for a very long time, and their hopes of turning Texas blue could come to a screeching halt if that demographic shows big enough support for Trump in November.

We'll see what happens!

I mentioned it a few pages back but it's certainly a possibility, he was within striking distance in 2016. They say close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades but if trends stay true it may just lead to him grabbing the state and paving over the rubble of the Blue Wall, I'd say right now I'm still in the cautiously optimistic camp because shenanigans are bound to happen in the weeks after Election Day whatever the outcome.

Especially depending on if McConnell and Ted Cruz can keep the Republicans from dropping the ball on the ACB nomination coming up as that will secure SCOTUS with a 5-4 advantage: Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett can override John Roberts and his hatred for Trump, I'd call Alito a possible swing vote because he was a Dubya nomination but I tend to think he may just side with Thomas and the rest.
 
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I was watching Trump's speech in Duluth and he brought up that nine mayors in the Iron Range had endorsed him. I decided to dig around and I found this,

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The more we learn about Minnesota, the more I'm willing to bet on Trump taking the state. He's no doubt getting the Iron Range outside maybe Cook County at this point. All he has to do is to hold on to his support in the rest of the state and make gains with Minneapolis/St. Paul and maybe Olmsted County and he has the state. It also helps that Trump discredited Biden's claim of being a decent, presidential man when he baited Biden into slinging insults at him. If there is the Minnesotan niceness effect that's helping Biden like what Baris from People's Pundit Daily described, it won't be there for undecided voters.

I could see it flip red by a few percentage.
Oh, yeah?! How can he be flipping Minnesota, one of the most consequtive Democratic voting states in history, if he is statistically tied in South Carolina?

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This demonstrates how complete dogshit polls are this cycle. If this was remotely true, Biden wouldn't be in his Autism Train Adventure all over the Rust Belt, he would be in Georgia and Texas, because without both, Trump would be gigafucked. Hell, would he even need to campaign there? That's about a 16+ point swing from 2016. He would be winning Texas by 5! The game would be fucking over.

The polls are fake, whether due to people not answering, not being sampled or weighted correctly, or just because fags like Cohn and Nate JUST are putting their fingers on the scales with this 90% turnout with a 57% woman electorate with 40% new voters bullshit model. These polls are made to affect Trump turnout, and like 2016, the people who drank the koolaid will be the most shocked of all when November 4th rolls around.
 
Oh, yeah?! How can he be flipping Minnesota, one of the most consequtive Democratic voting states in history, if he is statistically tied in South Carolina?

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This demonstrates how complete dogshit polls are this cycle. If this was remotely true, Biden wouldn't be in his Autism Train Adventure all over the Rust Belt, he would be in Georgia and Texas, because without both, Trump would be gigafucked. Hell, would he even need to campaign there? That's about a 16+ point swing from 2016. He would be winning Texas by 5! The game would be fucking over.

The polls are fake, whether due to people not answering, not being sampled or weighted correctly, or just because fags like Cohn and Nate JUST are putting their fingers on the scales with this 90% turnout with a 57% woman electorate with 40% new voters bullshit model. These polls are made to affect Trump turnout, and like 2016, the people who drank the koolaid will be the most shocked of all when November 4th rolls around.
I think the issue with polling for Trump is that there is a lot of stigma around supporting him which would look bad for you. This could lead to people lying just to spite the pollsters or pollsters calling up Democrat areas.

Of course the polls could have some credibility to them since we don't know what millions of Americans are thinking beyond speculation and Trump is the most unpredictable candidate in recent times. But at the same time, polls are not an accurate indicator. The only accurate poll is the results of the election.

I know that people like to discuss enthusiasm but remember Bernie had more enthusiastic supporters than Biden supporters, so it would be best to not just rely on candidate enthusiasm.
 
Oh, yeah?! How can he be flipping Minnesota, one of the most consequtive Democratic voting states in history, if he is statistically tied in South Carolina?

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This demonstrates how complete dogshit polls are this cycle. If this was remotely true, Biden wouldn't be in his Autism Train Adventure all over the Rust Belt, he would be in Georgia and Texas, because without both, Trump would be gigafucked. Hell, would he even need to campaign there? That's about a 16+ point swing from 2016. He would be winning Texas by 5! The game would be fucking over.

The polls are fake, whether due to people not answering, not being sampled or weighted correctly, or just because fags like Cohn and Nate JUST are putting their fingers on the scales with this 90% turnout with a 57% woman electorate with 40% new voters bullshit model. These polls are made to affect Trump turnout, and like 2016, the people who drank the koolaid will be the most shocked of all when November 4th rolls around.
Quinnipac has put out like 5 South Carolina polls in the last few weeks, and all of them are completely different from everyone else’s. Not sure if Quinnipac is being shit as usual or if it’s a signal for something.
 
I anticipate him flipping Minnesota at this rate. And I can see him winning Wisconsin and Michigan again. The "Blue Wall" may very well be totally gone-zo.

I think that a demographic to pay attention to right now are the Hispanic Americans. Seems that Trump is gaining a lot of traction with them. Is it possible that he may have steered this ever-growing demographic towards the GOP? This election will answer that question, I think. If it happens, then the Dems are so flipping screwed for a very long time, and their hopes of turning Texas blue could come to a screeching halt if that demographic shows big enough support for Trump in November.

We'll see what happens!
Love the optimism! :feels: Honestly, I think the DNC probably puts far too much stock in Nate Bismuth, so they're setting themselves up for failure like Hillary again. Go to Michigan, Joe. Scranton doesn't want your ass.

However, I think Trump needs to pull two rallies a week or a double in Michigan; it's not likely, but seems to be leaning blue, but close to a titling. Whitmer honestly seems to be actively trying her best to court favor with the bigwigs of the Democrat establishment. Between the cuck governors of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada, Virginia, and wherever else, Whitmer shows the most backbone, drive, and complete loathing of Trump. She's Kamala but white with all the ambition I can sense from her; her crazy eyes are there for a reason. There was a reason she was given a platform at this year's DNC. This election season won't be the last we hear of her. I expect to see her try and run for President as the establishment's next her turn chosen... or vie for the VP spot... again... Aside from that, she does seem to hold a lot of sway with Michigan folks; she got them to think more lockdowns are a good thing, if I recall.

Wisconsin if I recall tilts blue, either out of Blue Wall, hating Trump, or complete retardation, especially after Kenosha. Trump's doubling there this week, so there will be a shift. He has a lot of support there (his Kenosha visit post-NG). Evers might pipe up, but he's a cuck that Trump can stomp over.

We'll see what happens, though! That idiot blathering about Nate Cobblestone's polls could be extremely right and Trump gets blown back, but Trump is not complacent and neither are his supporters. I will fight through the ayy lmaos to vote that Orange bastard in.
 
The more we learn about Minnesota, the more I'm willing to bet on Trump taking the state. He's no doubt getting the Iron Range outside maybe Cook County at this point.

Oh God, Minnesota has a Cook County too? That explains a lot.

In re: Hispanics

This is just a tweet, obviously, but given that Trump outperfromed Romney among Hispanics despite wanting to genocide 6 GoRillion of them or something (as the media kept telling me) this may be a relevant take:

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Quinnipac has put out like 5 South Carolina polls in the last few weeks, and all of them are completely different from everyone else’s. Not sure if Quinnipac is being shit as usual or if it’s a signal for something.

The People's Pundit seems to think they're likely full of it, and said a while back that they have been for a while. In 2016 he won the state rather well against Clinton with 54.9% of the vote, she had 40.67% and actually underperformed Obama from 2012 by 4% and the state had around nearly 70% turnout.

Now North Carolina was more competitive with Trump winning by only 3.66% of the vote but he did flip 7 counties there red and three of those counties hadn't voted Republican since Nixon's landslide in 1972.
 
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Oh God, Minnesota has a Cook County too? That explains a lot.

In re: Hispanics

This is just a tweet, obviously, but given that Trump outperfromed Romney among Hispanics despite wanting to genocide 6 GoRillion of them or something (as the media kept telling me) this may be a relevant take:

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Somewhere in the course of American history, politicians just worked on separating themselves from the people akin to nobles. This is not what they should do, this is why Trump won, his lack of presidential behavior shows the people that he is a human being, he is one of them even if he is one of the top elites in the country. Plus if we get more of this, then we will be able to have fights as debates like those videos of the Ukrainian parliament IIRC.
 
As much as a lot of us would hate to admit it, Biden does have more of a likability factor among normie voters than Hillary ever did. Personally, I think that 2016 Hillary comes across as shockingly more likable and viable than Biden does right now (much to my shock) ... But I know that's simply not how a lot of people feel.
Especially as a New Yorker, I know how Hillary was hated back then. It was a big factor, and something especially women wouldn't dare admit to for the FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT. Remember the shock the media had with exit polls showing Trump doing so well with women. Biden isn't close to that hatred. Suburban women going against Trump becoming a point may be valid due to this. It also may damper the belief many hold about how strong Trump's "silent vote" is.
 
Especially as a New Yorker, I know how Hillary was hated back then. It was a big factor, and something especially women wouldn't dare admit to for the FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT. Remember the shock the media had with exit polls showing Trump doing so well with women. Biden isn't close to that hatred. Suburban women going against Trump becoming a point may be valid due to this. It also may damper the belief many hold about how strong Trump's "silent vote" is.
Yeah especially with the chaos in America amplifying during his term which could make people vote for Biden as a way to bring normalcy back. Of course the debate on Tuesday have hurt that idea a lot, but it all depends on how Biden handles himself in the future.
 
Especially as a New Yorker, I know how Hillary was hated back then. It was a big factor, and something especially women wouldn't dare admit to for the FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT. Remember the shock the media had with exit polls showing Trump doing so well with women. Biden isn't close to that hatred. Suburban women going against Trump becoming a point may be valid due to this. It also may damper the belief many hold about how strong Trump's "silent vote" is.
Kamala is even more unlikable and anyone being honest with themselves knows she's going to be the real president and that's exactly why she's been as limited as Biden despite not having cognitive problems. It's more than a bit concerning that this might actually work and she might actually become the 47th President.
 
Especially as a New Yorker, I know how Hillary was hated back then. It was a big factor, and something especially women wouldn't dare admit to for the FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT. Remember the shock the media had with exit polls showing Trump doing so well with women. Biden isn't close to that hatred. Suburban women going against Trump becoming a point may be valid due to this. It also may damper the belief many hold about how strong Trump's "silent vote" is.

My mother-in-law, who hates Trump and only watches MSNBC, CNN, and ABC, did not vote for Hillary in 2016. As much as she hates Trump, she could still not cast a vote for Hillary, and ended up voting third party instead. She's got pro-Biden stuff all over her Facebook this year, though.

On the flip-side, though, my sister-in-law, who has straight-up Trump Derangement Syndrome, proudly stated that she voted for Hillary in 2016. During this election cycle, all she talks about is how pissed she is about how "ALL OLD WHITE MEN" are the candidates, and has yet to show her support for Biden.

I think that Biden is going to appeal more to some demographics, and not so much with others in comparison to Hillary.
 
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