2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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A decision out of Texas that looks weird.

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From the CNN article:

(CNN)Texas Gov. Greg Abbott issued a proclamation Thursday limiting the amount of drop-off locations for mail-in ballots to one site per county.

The move significantly affects the Democratic stronghold of Harris County, which is the state's largest county by population -- one of the most populous in the country -- and covers a massive area. It must now reduce its 11 drop-off locations down to one starting on Friday. Travis County, which includes the reliably Democratic city of Austin, must limit its four drop-off locations to one.

Other large counties -- like Tarrant, Dallas and El Paso County -- only had one drop-off location already in place.

The Republican governor said in a statement the order was made to enhance ballot security. It also allows poll watchers to observe the in-person delivery of mail-in ballots by voters, but critics say it could severely limit access for many voters.

"The State of Texas has a duty to voters to maintain the integrity of our elections," Abbott said. "As we work to preserve Texans' ability to vote during the COVID-19 pandemic, we must take extra care to strengthen ballot security protocols throughout the state. These enhanced security protocols will ensure greater transparency and will help stop attempts at illegal voting."

This looks half like an attempt to standardize the way things are done (1 location in many large counties already), and half like a terrible idea. I guess it comes down to how many residents trust the USPS for their ballots; and if they don't, then the Democrats' focus on mail-in this year comes back to bite them in the ass, again.

If nothing else, it gives the Democrats yet another "voter suppression" excuse to whine about.

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How shitty do pollsters have to be at modeling to be getting Biden +15 for popular vote (I remember Clinton constantly getting similar results)? No wonder people think polling is a joke now. Obama's 2008 landslide was only +8.5 points in the popular vote. Sleepy Joe or anybody else isn't getting double digits. I think he'd get 2-3 points, at most.
 
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Remember the migrant caravans around the time of the midterms in 2018? The ones that were timed to arrive at almost election time?

They're pulling out the same playbook.

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I'm anxiously awaiting our new propaganda photos like this one from last time:
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Thing is, we have a lot more wall this go-round. Can't wait to put a huge spotlight on how effective one can be when we see it. Especially since it's one of those things that's just ignored by Democrats now that it's being actively built.

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Yeah, try to jump this. It won't work unless the "migrants' pull some World War Z - tier shit.

Wait, there are special dropboxes just for ballots? And nobody is torching them?

It's because the mail-in voters are Democrats, silly. :smug:
 
The big deal is that the ones who didn't turn out at all stayed home because they hated Hillary Clinton. After 4 years of TDS, it's easy to forget how much the nation already hated Hillary when she ran.

Without the Hillary hate, a chunk of 2016 Trump voters may switch back to Democrats, or 2016 non-voters may come out. I don't know if it's enough to erode Trump's margins, that's a math question to solve based on estimated turnout. PPD has some interesting numbers on this topic, but I haven't seen much anywhere else. And PPD hasn't been asking this specific question in his polling either.

I don't think the turnout will be as strong for Biden than if say Bernie had ran. Heck Trump even said so himself early on in the nominations that Bernie was the one he was most worried about. Yet the DNC ignored that factor, hamstrung Bernie AGAIN. Which split the party pretty much. It's probably what contributed to the Antifa violence as affluent hipster Bernie Bros and drug addled "I just need a living wage" drifters decide to go postal. The energy is there for that side to destroy the country, not vote.
 
Is there anywhere that I can easily view which presidential candidates are on the ballot in each state?

Asking because it's been a pain in the ass for me to look up so far, perhaps because I'm an idiot. I did an early in-person vote today and was surprised to see Kanye West listed.
 
Remember the migrant caravans around the time of the midterms in 2018? The ones that were timed to arrive at almost election time?

They're pulling out the same playbook.

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I'm anxiously awaiting our new propaganda photos like this one from last time:
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I'd like to think that Trump is already making some calls to AMLO and whoever runs Guatemala to stop this caravan in its tracks.
 
The Trump hate IS real. But what percentage are saying "I hate Trump so much I'm voting for Biden even though he sucks" and actually bother to vote, compared to the disgusted stay-home percentage?

No idea.

I know people with cases of frothing, terminal TDS who said "fuck them both, why bother voting" after watching the debate.
 
I personally know two white female suburbanites who have registered to vote in the general for the first time this year, and they intend to vote against Trump despite both of them saying they dislike Biden.

When asked why they didn’t like Trump, one said “he’s mean, I just don’t like him”.

The “Facebook Mom” demographic, who get’s inundated with TDS headlines and their peers freaking out about Roe v. Wade is one to look out for. They’re a real risk, and I don’t think the debate helped him there.

I have complicated feelings about the Trump presidency, but foreign policy alone has made me pretty firm on him. There’s something to be said about the fact that Trump has blown up fewer children in the Middle East than any president in the past 20 years, and it looks like he genuinely wants to keep it that way.
I know a handful of 40-something women that are like this too. Generally nonpolitical, dislike Democrat policy but REALLY hate Trump. This is why I'm not sure Trump being a huge interrupting dick is the wise move. Even 1% of suburbanites like this would be a significant shift, it would more than negate any black gains Trump may get.
 
I know a handful of 40-something women that are like this too. Generally nonpolitical, dislike Democrat policy but REALLY hate Trump. This is why I'm not sure Trump being a huge interrupting dick is the wise move. Even 1% of suburbanites like this would be a significant shift, it would more than negate any black gains Trump may get.
It's too late to care now. They're not going to decide to vote for him a month before the election because he stops shitposting on twitter. Trump would have had to start down that road after getting elected. If they genuinely cared about the issues Trump supporters did, they'd be voting for him in spite of his mannerisms. My mother very much falls into the "old white lady who is offended by Trump's manner" and she's voting for him because Biden's America scares her. She held her nose in 2016 because she hates Hillary, but really hoped the sentiment Trump expressed in his acceptance speech about trying to mend the country was true. I personally don't think he would have ever been given the chance to, but she routinely laments about his shitpost tweeting. The fact remains that she'll hold her nose and vote for him again.
 
It's too late to care now. They're not going to decide to vote for him a month before the election because he stops shitposting on twitter. Trump would have had to start down that road after getting elected. If they genuinely cared about the issues Trump supporters did, they'd be voting for him in spite of his mannerisms. My mother very much falls into the "old white lady who is offended by Trump's manner" and she's voting for him because Biden's America scares her. She held her nose in 2016 because she hates Hillary, but really hoped the sentiment Trump expressed in his acceptance speech about trying to mend the country was true. I personally don't think he would have ever been given the chance to, but she routinely laments about his shitpost tweeting. The fact remains that she'll hold her nose and vote for him again.
Yeah, I don't know how many women truly hated Hillary and didn't vote for her, but somehow are dying for a Biden presidency.

My mom voted for Hillary, but is now voting Trump because of how insane the Democratic Party is now.
 
I can't say I'm very convinced that older suburban women will turn out higher for Biden over Hillary just because of anecdotal evidence shared in this thread. I get that the argument is that Biden isn't (as) hateable and isn't the other guy (though it comes across as a weak argument for the sake of being less "optimistic", considering that enthusiasm is more important than people think), but I'll need more than the opinions of 5 or so people reported by posters who might not even live in swing/red states. Biden isn't exactly helping his image with these debates either.
 
I don't think the turnout will be as strong for Biden than if say Bernie had ran. Heck Trump even said so himself early on in the nominations that Bernie was the one he was most worried about. Yet the DNC ignored that factor, hamstrung Bernie AGAIN. Which split the party pretty much. It's probably what contributed to the Antifa violence as affluent hipster Bernie Bros and drug addled "I just need a living wage" drifters decide to go postal. The energy is there for that side to destroy the country, not vote.
Trump said Kirsten Gillibrand was the one he was most worried about, not Uncle Bernie.
 
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