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ProfDongs said:
Ambo Jitsu will always be one of my favorite moments, the fact that neither of them had been prepped on how to actually say the Japanese words so they just awkwardly mumble them is perfect. It being the "Ultimate Evolution of Martial Arts" kills me every time as well.
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YOROSHIKU ONEGAISHIMASU!

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ProfDongs said:
Ambo Jitsu will always be one of my favorite moments, the fact that neither of them had been prepped on how to actually say the Japanese words so they just awkwardly mumble them is perfect. It being the "Ultimate Evolution of Martial Arts" kills me every time as well.
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Idk if you've ever seen "The Prisoner" but there's a great segment in one of the episodes where Patrick McGoohan and this guy... well, it's almost exactly like this but with trampolines. So embarrassing but hysterical.
 
I'm starting a DS9 binge having never seen it before and having no expectations for what I'm going into. Just got to 'Move Along Home' which I thought was pretty dumb and then found out it's considered the worst episode of the series. Which honestly tells me if it is, I'm in for a pretty solid series.
Now I've had that damn Allamaraine rhyme stuck in my head all day
 
Iceland Heavy said:
I'm starting a DS9 binge having never seen it before and having no expectations for what I'm going into. Just got to 'Move Along Home' which I thought was pretty dumb and then found out it's considered the worst episode of the series. Which honestly tells me if it is, I'm in for a pretty solid series.
Now I've had that damn Allamaraine rhyme stuck in my head all day
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Allamaraine, count to four. Allamaraine, then three more. Allamaraine, if you can see. Allamaraine, you'll forget this episode!
 
Iceland Heavy said:
I'm starting a DS9 binge having never seen it before and having no expectations for what I'm going into. Just got to 'Move Along Home' which I thought was pretty dumb and then found out it's considered the worst episode of the series. Which honestly tells me if it is, I'm in for a pretty solid series.
Now I've had that damn Allamaraine rhyme stuck in my head all day
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I just recently finished it myself, never having seen the whole series before. It's fucking amazing.
 
There are some stinkers in DS9 but I always thought the worst episodes were never as bad as the worst TNG episodes. Anything that focused on Kira and her religion, or Odo making bad decisions were the lowest it got for me. Even the Black episode while hamfisted and heavy handed still had stuff I liked. Lady Quark was pretty dumb though.
 
Flexo said:
The time suit bit killed me. The whole episode is a great example of how bad & lazy writing choices early in the arc screws up your payoff at the end.
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Indeed. The two parts of this season finale were written by the new showrunner. It seemed like if she arrived in the writers' room at the end of the production and had to finish the mess that Kurtzman started after he fired the two previous co-showrunners. These people are so desperate to make a serialized Trek but they can't even follow the plot from one episode to another. The same thing happened on Picard where it felt like if you watched 3 different tv shows in 13 episodes (old man Picard with his shitbull and his Romulan slaves aids at his château, then the Romulan Borg Cube story, cut by the Riker bottle episode and then the Mass Effect story).
The thing is, the entire season 2 of STD made no sense from the start. My apologies if I have written this already. The 7 red signals appeared at the same time all around the galaxy (?!), yet as the season goes on they appear one at the time and somehow emoSpock remembers it because he has "dyslexia" (they forgot to check the meaning and thought that it was like autism). Then there's the whole "ackchyually it's not Mary Sue Burnham's DNA in the suit, it's her mother's". Like Chuck said, that's not how DNA works, you can't mistake a parent from its child. Also who did what as the Red Angel? At one point it's said (or implied) that her mother created all those red signals, then in the finale it was actually Mary-Sue Burnham who did everything (excepted the church event from WW3).
Chuck is probably yelling off-mic everytime a character acknowledges that Burnham is super smart. I also liked that he made a point about all Burnham's shitty inspirational speeches. You can feel it everytime like the writers want to sound smart but have no understanding of Trek.
Also the fucking time crystals? What is this, Doctor Who?

edit: Shit, the second season wasn't about the signals, it wasn't about the Red Angel, it was about a B or C story: an AI created by Section 31 that wanted the data of an alien ship encountered in an episode that had all the knowledge of the universe(?). This is so fucking dumb.
 
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Iceland Heavy said:
I'm starting a DS9 binge having never seen it before and having no expectations for what I'm going into. Just got to 'Move Along Home' which I thought was pretty dumb and then found out it's considered the worst episode of the series. Which honestly tells me if it is, I'm in for a pretty solid series.
Now I've had that damn Allamaraine rhyme stuck in my head all day
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I love how you can hear how 'done with this shit' Nana Visitor is when saying the rhyme
 
Miller said:
Like Chuck said, that's not how DNA works, you can't mistake a parent from its child.
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You actually can if you're looking at mitochondrial DNA, which typically survives better than DNA in the nucleus because it is encapsulated. Tanning, for example, will destroy most DNA except for mitochondrial DNA.

That said, a Starfleet Science Officer would know this. They would never say "It is Mary Sue's DNA", they would say "It is Mary Sue's DNA, or the DNA of someone related to her through the female line."

Or most likely in context, they would assume she had somehow contaminated the sample, and say they didn't find any DNA.
 
ProfDongs said:
It being the "Ultimate Evolution of Martial Arts" kills me every time as well.
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ditto said:
So glad they never tried showing what Parisi Squares played like.
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This is why I like it when future games are kept vague and mysterious, or at least never have their rules explained to you. Even with physical sports, you can just show the actors doing something vague with a lightshow on in the background and have cutaways to other characters watching the action when it seems like something important happens or is about to happen. It doesn't break the immersion by looking stupid.
 
L50LasPak said:
This is why I like it when future games are kept vague and mysterious, or at least never have their rules explained to you. Even with physical sports, you can just show the actors doing something vague with a lightshow on in the background and have cutaways to other characters watching the action when it seems like something important happens or is about to happen. It doesn't break the immersion by looking stupid.
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Or you just have them play some current sport and go "Yeah, it's still around in a couple hundred years".

In Battletech canon, American Football is still around in the 31st century and even decided the fate of a planet during the Clan Invasion.

I think there is barely any game or sport in Star Trek that doesn't look stupid.
Like competetive finger waggling:

Voyager had a decent idea about some stuff (I guess they learned from the silliness of TNG) and came up with games like Kal-Toh, where the audience understands the very basic idea behind the game, but it's not something that would make sense beyond that.
The obvious thing is that this is a game where you have to rearrange tiny bars to make a pattern/make the erratic pattern follow some logic, but how that is done is anyone's guess. Maybe that is the best thing to do, just keep it vague.

There's also Velocity, which looks kind of like a mix between squash and the old Half Life Mod Ricochet:

The upside is that it's a lot less silly, but the downside is that it's a lot less memorable than Ambojutsu.
 
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