The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

I've mostly quit replying to this thread, because it's gotten really fucking autistic and I don't see the situation improving anytime soon, but I saw a really stupid post that I want to reply to.
Muh Vagina said:
I'm just now discovering this thread. Does anyone here have a uterus or had one in the past? It's for science.
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This is the 'If you aren't woman then not only does this not effect you, but you also lack the knowledge and therefore right to speak about this' argument. This is stupid, because its only purpose is to keep men out of the conversation. Being a woman does not make anyone inherently more or less qualified to speak about abortion. The only difference between men and women when it comes down to the abortion debate is that women are more affected by abortion laws then men (though men are still very affected). Even if men were completely unaffected by abortion laws, I don't see why that would invalidate their opinion. Actually, I think one could make the argument that, if men were completely unaffected by abortion laws, their opinions on abortion would be more valid than those of a woman due to their objectivity. I mean look the situation with Kashmir for a minute. If you wanted to have an informed, unbiased take on what's going on in Kashmir and you could only go to one of three people, an Indian Hindu, a Pakistani Muslim, or a Japanese guy for information who would you go to (provided they were all equally educated on the issue)? The correct answer would have to be the Japanese guy, because he doesn't have skin in the game; he's just going to tell you what he knows.
 
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Erischan said:
Bruh you don't get to tell me what my positions are lmao
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You're saying she should be forced to raise the child. So yes, you are. You can claim you're not when called out on it, but you are in fact arguing for it
 
Erischan said:
I am not.

You're arguing for raping babies. You can claim you're not when called out on it, but you are in fact arguing for it.
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I never said to rape babies.

You are the one saying that woman who is raped should be forced to bear and raise her child. Or are you okay with abortion in the case of rape?
 
Erischan said:
They're two completely different statements.
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no they're not. You are saying that a woman who conceives by rape should not be able to get an abortion. But you also said that you never said that a woman who is raped should be forced to bear her baby. What other option is there?
 
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Erischan said:
Yes.

Correct.

...Raising her baby without me applying force to her to make her?
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You literally contradicted yourself in your own post. You are saying she should be forced to raise her baby without you applying force to make her, but she shouldn't be allowed to get an abortion. Women aren't going to want to raise a baby that was conceived via rape. That shit is hella traumatic.

Yes, you are forcing it if you want to ban abortions
 
Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
You are saying she should be forced to raise her baby
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Incorrect.
I don't know why this is so confusing to you.

No one has to force her to raise her baby. In absence of being able to murder her baby she has no other options. I don't need to chain her to her baby and beat her. I don't need to do anything. No force is applied. No one is forcing her.
 
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Erischan said:
Incorrect.
I don't know why this is so confusing to you.

No one has to force her to raise her baby. In absence of being able to murder her baby she has no other options. I don't need to chain her to her baby and beat her. I don't need to do anything. No force is applied. No one is forcing her.
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So she should be able to just throw the baby in the dumpster?
 
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