Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

If you were Taylor Swift, whom would you rather date?

  • Russell Greer

    Votes: 117 4.5%
  • Travis Kelce

    Votes: 138 5.3%
  • Null

    Votes: 1,454 55.8%
  • Kanye West

    Votes: 286 11.0%
  • Ariana Grande

    Votes: 609 23.4%

  • Total voters
    2,604
I don't know if it's normal for prosecuting attorneys to be that specific in their answer to that question, but to me it implied that Erika's team knew about the "senior prank".

It would be improper to use the question as an invitation to bring in something you know wasn't admissible or try to use it sneakily. It would also be improper not to answer the question truthfully by deliberately falsely saying "no."
 
I think this is the key to interpreting a lot of the absurd, obviously fictional details in Russell's book, for instance the part where he arrives at Radio Shack to get an HDMI cable, describing himself literally skidding to a halt and announcing, "You have arrived at your destination!" like a car GPS. It makes sense if you look at it as a scene from an underdog film, where Russell would be the lovably fallible but scrappy hero. In such a film, you'd sympathize with the main character's setbacks, rather than dismissing them as the bumbling of an incompetent idiot.

Edit: I see @DrainRedRain beat me to the punch, making pretty much the exact same point.

Dude, yes. The way he paints himself as ''quirky, goofy and totally relatable to the youth'' is ridiculous. He reminds me of those high school kids that run around imitating Naruto or some other anime thinking they are being quirky and funny. No, they're just being weirdos.
I know Rusty's facial paralysis is the last thing wrong about him, but think about a man who can't close his mouth, move his eyes or smile, running around and joking about being a human GPS. Absolutely ridiculous and not funny at all. A handsome man couldn't get away with it without some people calling him weird or just a plain idiot, let alone a deformed dwarf like Russ.
 
On the livestream, null and Nick said that someone posted Russell's baby pictures here. Anyone have a link to the specific post, since Russell is too retarded to provide a URL to the offending material?
 
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Dude, yes. The way he paints himself as ''quirky, goofy and totally relatable to the youth'' is ridiculous. He reminds me of those high school kids that run around imitating Naruto or some other anime thinking they are being quirky and funny. No, they're just being weirdos.
I know Rusty's facial paralysis is the last thing wrong about him, but think about a man who can't close his mouth, move his eyes or smile, running around and joking about being a human GPS. Absolutely ridiculous and not funny at all. A handsome man couldn't get away with it without some people calling him weird or just a plain idiot, let alone a deformed dwarf like Russ.
I have to say, I don't think Russell actually does these things in real life, for the most part: they're details he fills in while he's playing a moviefied version of events in his head. When we've seen Russell in court -- one of the rare opportunities we have to view footage of Russell that he himself hasn't strategically assembled -- he's been pretty passive. He just sits off to the side and seethes, and when he's challenged he quickly apologizes and backs down. Wacky, Jim Carrey-ish Russell only emerges in Russell's accounts of his actions after the fact. Take, for instance, the bit in "Why I Sued Taylor Swift" in which book-Russell spontaneously does a backflip when he sees he's received an email from Swift's agent. I think we can both agree that Russell probably is incapable of doing a backflip, and that, in reality, when he received that email he opened it in the normal manner.

This is admittedly speculative, but I doubt that even the scene in "Why I Sued Taylor Swift" where Russell has an angry outburst at a law office bears a recognizable resemblance to anything from reality. I think Russell probably spent time brooding about how unfairly he'd been treated, fantasizing about bursting into the law office and giving them a piece of his mind. I think Russell's fantasy version of himself is far wittier and more assertive than he actually is, but his fantasy version of himself is not flawless because the scrappy underdog archetype Russell hopes to emulate is not flawless: he has limitations that make him sympathetic. I think this is also why Russell, seemingly uncharacteristically, presents many personal defeats even in his book's highly doctored version of his life: they're part of the archetypal underdog's journey. I doubt that Russell is consciously aware of this; I expect he's just spent his life absorbing these inspiring underdog tales and is now regurgitating them.
 
The court didn't order therapy, but rather an evaluation. When he sees the shrink, it won't be for Russell's benefit, but rather so the court has an expert opinion on his mental state as part of official record.

The therapist he sees will already know that he's been convicted of electronic harassment against a woman, and that there were circumstances surrounding his case that warranted a psych eval order (because most first-time harassment convictions of somebody with no prior criminal record* will not require a psych eval).

The therapist will review court documents, and may reach some tentative conclusions prior to meeting with Russell in person. Thus, any questions they ask Russell won't be to encourage self-reflection, but to better understand his thought processes in light of the actions that got him convicted and ordered to undergo a psych eval in the first place. They'll know he's a fuckup with mental issues, but the goal is to determine what flavor his particular mental issues are, and whether he is likely to re-offend or escalate his behaviors.

*Yes, there's the "kill list" incident from high school, but IIRC that was sealed, due to being a first offense, his age, and extenuating circumstances. It wasn't showing up on background checks when he was still getting paralegal jobs, and the judge at the Ogden City court may not have known about it. I wonder if that is the "disturbing" piece of information Erika's attorney provided the court to get a psych eval ordered.
His delusional thinking will be at the forefront of any report. He thinks he's owed a date (and thus sex) since he wrote a crappy song for a megasuperstar. He thinks he's a genius when he's clearly not. I hope as part of his evaluation, the evaluator performs an IQ test. A low IQ coupled with his likely narcissism would explain a lot of what of he believes. It would also seem to indicate that he's not really treatable. If this is the case, he's too dumb to realize his behavior isn't acceptable without it being forcibly pointed out to him, such as being charged with harassment. Even then, he still doesn't think he's done anything wrong. The only thing the law can do is make him afraid to harass women for fear of consequences.
 
Quick question that has probably been asked a million times. Could Russel get some sort of reconstructive surgery like they do to people with cleft lip or bell's palsy to fix his fucked lip? Like, take muscle tissue from somewhere else that actually functions and implant it there? Fucking stretch, but it would give him one less thing to worry about, just have to worry about that fucked personality than.
 
Quick question that has probably been asked a million times. Could Russel get some sort of reconstructive surgery like they do to people with cleft lip or bell's palsy to fix his fucked lip? Like, take muscle tissue from somewhere else that actually functions and implant it there? Fucking stretch, but it would give him one less thing to worry about, just have to worry about that fucked personality than.
They already tried that but it didnt work and as far as im aware they can only do 1 attempt
 
On the livestream, null and Nick said that someone posted Russell's baby pictures here. Anyone have a link to the specific post, since Russell is too retarded to provide a URL to the offending material?

If any were posted, they were most likely taken from this promotional video created and uploaded by Russ himself years ago:

 
I got this exact feeling when reading his book. He talks as if he was in a movie, like he was a character down to his luck, but in a twist of fate, he was quickly catapulted to fame by simply running into a female celebrity while scrubbing toilets and making her laugh with a silly janitor joke. He really believes life is a big movie and he's the sole star.
He literally believes that ''showing how you care about a famous female by going through hardships and putting on hard work'' would be enough to everyone and all the world would finally see how disciplined and humble he really is and finally give him the fruits he worked so hard for.

This is typical movie script 101.
I think this is the key to interpreting a lot of the absurd, obviously fictional details in Russell's book, for instance the part where he arrives at Radio Shack to get an HDMI cable, describing himself literally skidding to a halt and announcing, "You have arrived at your destination!" like a car GPS. It makes sense if you look at it as a scene from an underdog film, where Russell would be the lovably fallible but scrappy hero. In such a film, you'd sympathize with the main character's setbacks, rather than dismissing them as the bumbling of an incompetent idiot.

Edit: I see @DrainRedRain beat me to the punch, making pretty much the exact same point.
You both beat me to it here, this is exactly how he sees himself. He sees his entire life as a movie you'd see on the Disney channel. First act, he's a down on his luck nobody with dreams of the big time. Second act, he makes a big gesture to impress Taylor Swift, she loves it, meets up with him and is so blown away by his talents that she falls madly in love with him and promises to make him a star. Third act, they perform onstage and make out in front of a cheering crowd, the end. Or something like that, at least. Given his fantasy of her crying in a limo, I can't be too far off. He gets mad and tries to force his will on Taylor because as far as he's concerned, he's done his part of the script, and now she has to do hers.

His case of main character syndrome is undeniable. He really thinks that his efforts to invade Taylor's privacy, including contacting her family, are totally justified because he's the main character. Russell has, on many occasions, tried to hit on women by saying he's different from all the random guys out there. He doesn't realize his own insignificance, that he is not the main character of any story except his own delusion. He also makes several rude comments about the girls who folded the paper cranes for Taylor's mom because to him, they aren't the main characters, so why should they be given any attention? It really is interesting seeing how a childish fantasy intertwines with entitlement, sexism, and narcissism to create the truly unique specimen that is Russ.
I know that Russell is fixated on coercing women into "sucking him his penis," but I'm curious how this particular combination of pronoun, determiner, and cock came to be.
He wrote a brief essay about why he wanted to make prostitution legal, and in an earlier version he included a graphic description of his first time banging a hooker, which included the phrase "she then began to suck me my penis."
 
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I have to say, I don't think Russell actually does these things in real life, for the most part: they're details he fills in while he's playing a moviefied version of events in his head. When we've seen Russell in court -- one of the rare opportunities we have to view footage of Russell that he himself hasn't strategically assembled -- he's been pretty passive. He just sits off to the side and seethes, and when he's challenged he quickly apologizes and backs down. Wacky, Jim Carrey-ish Russell only emerges in Russell's accounts of his actions after the fact. Take, for instance, the bit in "Why I Sued Taylor Swift" in which book-Russell spontaneously does a backflip when he sees he's received an email from Swift's agent. I think we can both agree that Russell probably is incapable of doing a backflip, and that, in reality, when he received that email he opened it in the normal manner.

This is admittedly speculative, but I doubt that even the scene in "Why I Sued Taylor Swift" where Russell has an angry outburst at a law office bears a recognizable resemblance to anything from reality. I think Russell probably spent time brooding about how unfairly he'd been treated, fantasizing about bursting into the law office and giving them a piece of his mind. I think Russell's fantasy version of himself is far wittier and more assertive than he actually is, but his fantasy version of himself is not flawless because the scrappy underdog archetype Russell hopes to emulate is not flawless: he has limitations that make him sympathetic. I think this is also why Russell, seemingly uncharacteristically, presents many personal defeats even in his book's highly doctored version of his life: they're part of the archetypal underdog's journey. I doubt that Russell is consciously aware of this; I expect he's just spent his life absorbing these inspiring underdog tales and is now regurgitating them.
Ah yes, he totally made up every little interaction in that book. Even the things that could have happened, he %100 embellished it. He just sucks at any type of social thing, as we could see in the video Sharshorita made of him in that courthouse. He just stood there, pathetically, looking around like a dumb toddler.
But the fact that he WANTS to be like the Russ he portrayed in the book is ridiculous. I know he's a narc and low IQ, but I still find it amazing that a full grown man sees himself as this quirky movie character from the 90s/00s movies and sitcoms.

He is just all around pathetic. I'm a fucking bleeding heart that tries to see the good side of everyone, and I failed miserably with Rusty. He has nothing, zero, nada.
 
Ah yes, he totally made up every little interaction in that book. Even the things that could have happened, he %100 embellished it. He just sucks at any type of social thing, as we could see in the video Sharshorita made of him in that courthouse. He just stood there, pathetically, looking around like a dumb toddler.
But the fact that he WANTS to be like the Russ he portrayed in the book is ridiculous. I know he's a narc and low IQ, but I still find it amazing that a full grown man sees himself as this quirky movie character from the 90s/00s movies and sitcoms.

He is just all around pathetic. I'm a fucking bleeding heart that tries to see the good side of everyone, and I failed miserably with Rusty. He has nothing, zero, nada.
He's pathetic all right, but more than that, he's a threat, at least a potential one. He's proven he's willing to escalate his behavior. He's proven he seriously believes the rules don't apply to him. He's too dense to know when he's outclassed and to back off. This is a guy who thinks he can seduce fucking models into fucking him when they routinely get hit on by guys who like Greek Gods who can fly them to the tropics for the weekend. This does not produce a man with sound judgement or even a good self-preservation instinct. He's so clueless he didn't even realize he was going to get into trouble with Erika after she told him to leave her alone and he refused to do that.
 
He is just all around pathetic. I'm a fucking bleeding heart that tries to see the good side of everyone, and I failed miserably with Rusty. He has nothing, zero, nada.
Same here. I can absolutely be a ridiculous bleeding heart and can usually muster some pity for people... with a few exceptions.

Russhole is one of those exceptions. He is completely and utterly repulsive, and the sad part is that his external appearance is only a small part of his repulsiveness. I mean, he could suddenly and magically look like Kevin Costner in his prime and he’d still be a fucking loser that has no friends and that women avoid because douchiness and self absorption just oozes off him.

(Minor thing that’s been autistically bugging me for a while but- in the “I Don’t Get You” song his lyric where he blanket proclaims that Taylor Swift doesn’t like her fans just because she didn’t make him famous... I can’t even fathom being that entitled. I just can’t.)
 
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Same here. I can absolutely be a ridiculous bleeding heart and can usually muster some pity for people... with a few exceptions.

Russhole is one of those exceptions. He is completely and utterly repulsive, and the sad part is that his external appearance is only a small part of his repulsiveness. I mean, he could suddenly and magically look like Kevin Costner in his prime and he’d still be a fucking loser that has no friends and that women avoid because douchiness and self absorption just oozes off him.

(Minor thing that’s been autistically bugging me for a while but- in the “I Don’t Get You” song his lyric where he blanket proclaims that Taylor Swift doesn’t like her fans just because she didn’t make him famous... I can’t even fathom being that entitled. I just cant
And I find it hilarious how he keeps saying that it is his disability that makes people walk away. His face and other body deformities are nothing compared to the true garbage festering inside.
His entitlement is insane. As I said some pages back, I started reading this thread some years ago and I still have a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that:
- He genuinely believes they owe him a songwriter career just because he ''wrote'' some jingles and paid for some fiverr gigs here and there.
- He genuinely thought going to an Ariana Grande's concert wearing a suit and holding flowers was a socially acceptable thing to do.
- He genuinely tried to sue Ariana because she made a more ''serious'' pose while taking pics with him. (He is a fucking grown man and expected Ariana to hug him like she did with her underage female fans, go figure.)
- He genuinely thinks that working out in a suit or dress pants is normal and acceptable.

These are just some examples that I catch myself sometimes thinking about. Just by typing these things, I felt like a fucking idiot. Russ is one of the few lolcows that still blows my mind by only existing.
 
Normally I wonder why people don’t read the thread or search but this thread has so much repetition and conversation it’s hard to do. Maybe the OP needs updating?

While the OP is very good, people keep asking the same questions, such as about Bailee. She’s in the OP-but her name is not mentioned so it’d be easy to overlook. Her name should at least be there.

Many people ask why he hasn’t had surgery so maybe the fact that he did as a kid but never went back to see if there have been improvements should be there. Trauma lumps and medical and psychiatric evals could go there.

Parts of it are repetitive, with recaps of lawsuits that don’t need to be there. Maybe the whole thing could be streamlined, with Childood, school, work history, books and music, medical history, female harrassment and lawsuit/criminal sections? (And whatever anybody else thinks of)

Obviously, I’m happy to help, or work with the Op.
 
I don't have the top-tier LDSBC paralegal training our magical star buddy proudly boasts, but I have to wonder if this is a valid argument you can bring before a judge. Why wouldn't it be?
Service is a way for the court to know for sure that the correct person involved in a lawsuit has properly been given notice and documentation. It involves a formal process because that's the way courts work. When you start getting real loose with rules people start showing up and saying "wait a second, I don't know who the fuck this "Nool" guy is but I'm Joshua Moon and haven't had anything delivered to me."

The court doesn't know who Null is, what Kiwifarms is, or what connection (if any) Joshua Moon has to the either. It's not going to just assume Russ is telling the truth and knows what he's talking about when he links Joshua Moon as the username 'Null'. While a court COULD go through and figure stuff out it would take time and money. Instead the plaintiff is expected to find a way to serve the actual human they are suing and, if they can't, provide the court reasons why it has to step in and change the rules for them.
 
Quick question that has probably been asked a million times. Could Russel get some sort of reconstructive surgery like they do to people with cleft lip or bell's palsy to fix his fucked lip? Like, take muscle tissue from somewhere else that actually functions and implant it there? Fucking stretch, but it would give him one less thing to worry about, just have to worry about that fucked personality than.
Nope. As noted, we've looked into Moebius Syndrome quite a bit. Unlike Cleft lip or another purely physical issue, it's a lack of one of the key cranial nerves in the face. It's not that he has a detatched cranial nerve that could be stretched over and connected properly, that cranial nerve is simply not there. There's nothing that could be done at the time he had surgery looked at. He got a couple other minor touch-ups I think but the major problems are unfixable by the state of the art at that time.

Maybe in the next 20 years, there might be some kind of nerve growing bacteria or some shit discovered but until now the only thing they could do is wire his jaw mostly shut which will still leave his dangling lips sneering at people and require him to live on liquid food. I'm sure that would not help his pussy hunt any, although it would be hilarious.
 
While the OP is very good, people keep asking the same questions, such as about Bailee. She’s in the OP-but her name is not mentioned so it’d be easy to overlook. Her name should at least be there.
I omitted her name deliberately to omit this thread from any search results her family might do. I'll see what I can do to fix the OP. The amount of quotes is excessive for sure.

Edit edit edit: I think links are fixed, major thanks to @Kosher Salt, it turns out I was retarded
 
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