Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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because it wasn't, USA is actually doing better than Canada, Germany and on par with Norway and Japan

Percentage of coronavirus cases which lead to deaths​


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if Obama or any other Dem was a president, media would use covid per capita numbers to spin it as a great success, but since Trump is responsible, they use total numbers (omiting the fact that countries they compare US to are several times smaller by population) to spin it as terrible
I'm a Leaf, and I check the numbers on the Health Canada site about every day, and run the calculations for myself. Based on the equation, Recovered Cases / (Total cases - currently active cases), I get the number 0.93. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that means out of all cases, excluding those that currently have it, 93% have recovered. But with the way people talk, it sounds like there are bodies piled up in the streets, and people dropping like flies. I still have family members afraid to leave their houses. But then, I don't pay attention to what the talking heads on the television tell me I should think of all this; I find the numbers, and try to figure it all out for myself, which is probably why I'm really not afraid of it
 
Lol so basically this is the result of ongoing efforts to break up the NHS.

The David Cameron regime created 'Public Health England' some years ago as a separate agency to take over NHS responsibilities, with the intention that it would cause chaos and help enable privitization as 'it couldn't be worse'. Then this dodgy 'test and trace' operation was created this year with plenty of 'private-public partnerships' included.

As one can see, this has successfully created a problem, because instead of the NHS having a single database that would be used for epidemiological reporting and contact tracing, there are a bunch of Excel files floating around, in some dodgy workflow created by some Hindoo IT contractors without any oversight by health experts or business analysts.

From the point of view of preventing old people from dying, this is a failure. From the point of view of the Conservative party, and the neoliberal ascendancy of the Labour party, this is a stunning success.

I dunno if either party is smart enough for all that mate. Seems more like a regular old cock up tbh.
 
Some people wonder how Corona-chan get some big names. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/10/why_big_names_are_getting_covid19.html
October 5, 2020

Why Big Names Are Getting COVID-19​

By Pete McArdle
It's a common belief that our well heeled betters live in a different world than we do.
If they wish to, people of power and means can enjoy the very best nutrition, housing, and health care available. When it comes to buying personal protective equipment, money's simply no object to them.
So why are luminaries like the president, members of the Senate, White House correspondents, and NFL stars coming down with COVID-19?

Because the measures the so-called experts keep blathering about, wearing face masks and social distancing, are next to useless. COVID-19 is simply working its way through the population, regardless of catchy slogans like "New York Tough" and "A small ask, wear a mask!

As I mentioned in a previous article, a properly trained dentist enters a room; washes his hands thoroughly with warm water and soap; puts on a mask, gloves, and eye protection; and then contaminates them by treating the patient. Upon completion of treatment, the dentist takes off his eyewear for later disinfection, throws away his contaminated mask and gloves, and then washes his hands thoroughly before leaving the operatory.

He does this again and again and again, going through boxes of gloves and masks every day. In the time of coronavirus, is any lay person doing anything remotely close to this? Nope.
Let's be real: no one can. And what dentists do pales in comparison to the sterile technique used in operating rooms. Yet even in the best O.R.s in America, there are occasional breakdowns in infection control. Perfect infection control is certainly a goal, but it's a goal no health provider ever attains.

And while the fatality rate of COVID-19 is similar to past influenzas — and it mainly kills the elderly and medically compromised — this bug sure is contagious! By not killing most hosts, the COVID-19 virus spreads easily as infected people with little or no symptoms interact with others, and so on and so on.
Do face masks lessen the aerosol an infected individual expels? Yes, if worn properly and changed frequently. Are most people wearing masks correctly and changing them frequently during the day? Um, no, that's a big negatory, good buddy.
Are folks wearing medical-grade gloves and changing them frequently? Wearing proper eye protection and disinfecting it after every exposure to germs? Is six feet some magical distance that fully protects you from a potentially-infected person?
No, non, and nein!
 
I dunno if either party is smart enough for all that mate. Seems more like a regular old cock up tbh.
There can be a strange level of tactical acumen in doing nothing and letting dumb people shit the bed. If we want democracy then let's not ponce about with trying to embed an ideal within reality, they intended for this to happen as they are the politicians and consultants that have (((navigated))) the landscape of the elite under "pressure" from the people.
 
There can be a strange level of tactical acumen in doing nothing and letting dumb people shit the bed. If we want democracy then let's not ponce about with trying to embed an ideal within reality, they intended for this to happen as they are the politicians and consultants that have (((navigated))) the landscape of the elite under "pressure" from the people.
as a brit i can tell you for a fact the conservatives are not competent enough to mount a conspiracy to topple the local greggs

it's the jews who run everything that you want to be worried about
 
It's all good! Here's what we do: you remember a couple months back when Excel was reading gene names as dates, so the scientists just up and fucking decided to rename the genes? We can do a similar thing here and warp reality to fit with Excel's idiosyncrasies: just rule that all of the coronavirus cases that got cut off of the Excel spreadsheet just didn't happen. Easy!
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A lot of people, especially in office jobs, abuse the FUCK out of Excel spreadsheets when it comes to keeping track of records within the company. They will do shit like have a bajillion pages on one spreadsheet for every department rather than make a separate Excel doc for each department, and then make it shareable so everyone is adding shit to it at the same time. And then when (not if, it's ALWAYS a matter of when) the document crashes and craps out or get's corrupted, they freak the fuck out and say shit like "HOW COULD HAVE THIS EVER HAPPENED?!?!"

Common Sense is not a common thing in the work force these days.
 
But with the way people talk, it sounds like there are bodies piled up in the streets, and people dropping like flies.

It's because the media set the perception of the situation. They say "200k people have DIED and it's a DISASTER, truly an apocalyptic, abysmall death toll" etc, and people hear it every day from numerous outlets, and go with that.
But if you show it differently, that in USA, at the peak of 'rona the biggest bump in mortality was 75k deaths a week instead of more normal 60k, and this 15k extra is spread across cunt of 330 million people, this paints a different picture

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they also always use the raw number of deaths (200k), not per capita of infected, because per capita of infected USA is doing surprisingly well, even if hospitals pump those numbers artificially. But "USA had 200k deaths while Sweden had 6k" sounds way more alarmist, and most people do not realize that Sweden has 12 million people total.
But in stats where USA is not doing so hot, like percentage of population being infected, they often cite per capite numbers

tl;dr media are biased and use unethical tactics to spin a narrative.
 
It's because the media set the perception of the situation. They say "200k people have DIED and it's a DISASTER, truly an apocalyptic, abysmall death toll" etc, and people hear it every day from numerous outlets, and go with that.
But if you show it differently, that in USA, at the peak of 'rona the biggest bump in mortality was 75k deaths a week instead of more normal 60k, and this 15k extra is spread across cunt of 330 million people, this paints a different picture

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they also always use the raw number of deaths (200k), not per capita of infected, because per capita of infected USA is doing surprisingly well, even if hospitals pump those numbers artificially. But "USA had 200k deaths while Sweden had 6k" sounds way more alarmist, and most people do not realize that Sweden has 12 million people total.
But in stats where USA is not doing so hot, like percentage of population being infected, they often cite per capite numbers

tl;dr media are biased and use unethical tactics to spin a narrative.
I see that drop at the end.

Earlier in this "pandemic" a few outspoken people were saying Excess Deaths would shoot up above average, then drop below because Corona-chan was basically cleaning house of everyone on Death's Doorstep, so everyone who would have died of a heart attack/stroke/cancer/etc. basically died up front and early.

Wondering if that trend will continue before balancing out.
 
I get the impression once the coof cash dries up and people have to go back to work they'll start pushing back on the bullshit regs and mandates. So its safe to go to work but not safe to have your partner, friends or family over? Sure, right, okay.

They've been happy to put up with it while they're sitting home and getting paid to binge eat and watch shit on Netflix, but when they realise the cash harms dried up and they have to go to work but they're being told they can work but not have a life, I'd hope - though rate me rainbows- they'll spine up and start questioning the lies.

Some of us can see where this is going but too many people- always fat, stupid gullible retards- are too stupid to question why this is so super srs bsns when the mortality rate is so low in healthy people.
 
because it wasn't, USA is actually doing better than Canada, Germany and on par with Norway and Japan

Percentage of coronavirus cases which lead to deaths​


View attachment 1642106

if Obama or any other Dem was a president, media would use covid per capita numbers to spin it as a great success, but since Trump is responsible, they use total numbers (omiting the fact that countries they compare US to are several times smaller by population) to spin it as terrible
Interesting how China's not portrayed on any statistics and journalists keep insisting that they're doing "better" than the US.

They're the origin point for Corona, they have the highest population in the world, their hygiene is generally lackluster, and their politicians are habitual liars when it comes to anything that makes the CCP look weak. It should be obvious to anyone not hellbent on portraying Trump as Literally Hitler that for all the fear mongering over the US death totals, there's no way in hell China has fewer deaths than us.

The only reason we're in this mess was seeing how the CCP treated Corona as the new plague and thinking all that would apply equally to the rest of us. In fact, I'm willing to believe that all the pollution they produce had weakened lungs for years, thus they had a far more severe death rate at the beginning.
 
A lot of people, especially in office jobs, abuse the FUCK out of Excel spreadsheets when it comes to keeping track of records within the company. They will do shit like have a bajillion pages on one spreadsheet for every department rather than make a separate Excel doc for each department, and then make it shareable so everyone is adding shit to it at the same time. And then when (not if, it's ALWAYS a matter of when) the document crashes and craps out or get's corrupted, they freak the fuck out and say shit like "HOW COULD HAVE THIS EVER HAPPENED?!?!"

Common Sense is not a common thing in the work force these days.
It's ridiculous the level of abuse you'll see in any given Excel sheet coming out of any big company and the fuckups that happen as a result. The worst part is when you ask for relational/tabular data and it still comes back in the form of a screenshot embedded into a .docx.
 
It's because the media set the perception of the situation. They say "200k people have DIED and it's a DISASTER, truly an apocalyptic, abysmall death toll" etc, and people hear it every day from numerous outlets, and go with that.
But if you show it differently, that in USA, at the peak of 'rona the biggest bump in mortality was 75k deaths a week instead of more normal 60k, and this 15k extra is spread across cunt of 330 million people, this paints a different picture

View attachment 1642327


they also always use the raw number of deaths (200k), not per capita of infected, because per capita of infected USA is doing surprisingly well, even if hospitals pump those numbers artificially. But "USA had 200k deaths while Sweden had 6k" sounds way more alarmist, and most people do not realize that Sweden has 12 million people total.
But in stats where USA is not doing so hot, like percentage of population being infected, they often cite per capite numbers

tl;dr media are biased and use unethical tactics to spin a narrative.

I think this has been one of the biggest issues, with this virus. Stats can be presented in so many different ways depending on what you want to show, or in the case of the media, what you want to program people to feel. What fucks me off is media pulling graphs from official stats websites, scrubbing text and mspainting their own alarmist shite onto the graphs.
The 2020-21 flu season will be interesting to see how it is handled by governments and the media. I can imagine alot of number fudging if less people die of flu , because they have already died of covid , and less people die of covid, than expected, because they have already died in round one.

Personally; i have had enough of it. Back in jan/feb I bought an extra freezer and started getting things in as, at first, it was unclear as to how things were going to pan out. If all of this had started somewhere else, other than China, and not gone wild in northern Italy, I think we would be dealing with this very differently now. Responding, in a measured way, to a virus that first gets a foothold in a corrupt country and another foothold in another corrupt country that also has a broken health system, just hasn't happened. Social media has not helped one bit with any events this year. The world would be a far better place if we all went into 2021 without facebook, twitter, reddit and so on. Fuck that shit off asap.

The saddest thing I have seen is the change in people that the media has caused. When looking out the window to see there aren't piles of bodies, that the same postman is still alive and delivering the post as he has all year, the same courier drivers are as the postman and they still don't know anyone who has died, or even been unwell enough to be tested, these previously sane, likable and loveable people cannot stop looking at the numbers and parroting them at every opportunity. I never thought I would say it but i do now consider some of them as a danger to my well being and to their own children. They are literally suffering from some kind of madness.
 
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