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Political grifters shoved it down the memory hole so they could claim THEY did it first, and steal all the money.
Social Justice Warriors - Now With Less Feminism Sperging
- Thread starter José Mourinho
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I don't understand why anyone even attempts to appease these people, since they'll never be happy with anything they're given. Unless their chosen sacred cow is depicted as a perfect, flawless, not to mention boring Mary Sue, they'll declare it as "problematic" and accuse the author of being a bigot.
Authors should be free to tell any story in any way they want, which includes deciding the demographics of the characters. All this constant complaining is going to accomplish is dissuading authors from even including those demographics in the first place. I mean, if you're a criminal either way, you might as well just skip the roundabout path, right? Why put in any effort to delay the inevitable?
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>BIPOC
Let me guess, “muh representation” only counts if they’re black or Native American/Alaskan/Hawaiian. Fuck any character that has the misfortune of being Asian, Hispanic, or Middle Eastern.
The rest is just “You didn’t check off all the right boxes!” and “Oh woe is me! Why can’t media be more woke?” while pearl clutching and hand wringing for creators to “do better”. Remind me why people like this are allowed to interact with media?
What never fails to be interesting is that it’s always the most inclusive writers they go after versus writers that never try at all.
Case in point, Steven Universe tried to be inclusive as possible yet you still had people going “Where are all East Asians and Hispanics hm? Where are all the other LGBT members hm?” Meanwhile most of the characters in Gravity Falls are white and straight yet I rarely ever see people bug Alex Hirsch about it.
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Consider also the importance of fandom to these morons. They don't want to watch Static Shock because it's not airing RIGHT NOW and also it's not wide-screen and also it's old and thus undesirable.
They'd rather watch a new, shitty show with an active community than an old one that actually fulfills the criteria they claim to want.
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What a fucking load. A "comrade" is only a "comrade" as long as they haven't been purged by Stalin, then suddenly they never even existed.
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Fresh Prince and Family Matters were pop cultural touchstones for my generation.
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Comrade or enemy, the only difference is expediency.
The degenerate bourgeois friendship tends to stay longer.
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You can go even further back than the 90s: I've seen more "progressive" discussions about pertinent social issues in some 70s and 80s shows and films than I have on television today.
Tanner Glass
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Money and social pressure.
When you take something from that era you're describing - like Fresh Prince of Bel Air - some of the threads would be "problematic" today. There's a particularly good (from a social standpoint) episode about Will not having a good relationship with his father, because it is an actual problem in that community. You could not remake that episode (or anything like it today) because you'd have twitter spamming all of your advertisers about the show "perpetuating negative and untrue stereotypes about the black community and is written by and enjoyed only by white supremacists" even if you kept the same black cast and writers (who are likely pulling from their own lives to an extent).
There's a (debatably) large segment of people that don't want entertainment to be challenging and there's an entertainment market that's willing to cater to them. That's why you see so many boring ideas like "Captain America, but he's black.", "Iron-man, but he's a black female teenager instead", or "Spider-man, but he's black". These characters, concepts, and stories could be interesting, but rarely are because the writers are afraid to portray any of them in a negative light.
It's weird to think of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air in the same silo as All in the Family in terms of shows that may be problematic these days - but that's 2020 for you.
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This right is what has me worried for the upcoming Bel-Air reboot and what’s left of the MCU.
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Didn't you hear? They're remaking The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, but as a grimdark edgy drama. Because humor is verboten in Current Year.
Tanner Glass
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Every day we venture further away from God's Light.
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I wouldn't even be surprised if they literally are doing it just to fuck it up because they hate its popularity with 4chan.
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Oh, you mean the icky rural places with no culture that you fled for cities? But now that you have destroyed the cities, you want to ruin the rest of the country too?
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Nothing would surprise me anymore.
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You could still make Fresh Prince today, though the only real issues would be:
1. That Carlton is basically a Republican-lite and a running theme for the character is how outside the wealthy Bel-Aire social scene, most black people consider him a sell-out plus his status as a square who plays by the rules and has faith in the system and only really questions it when other black people start terrorizing him for being an Oreo
2. Philip and Vivian are basically centrist activists from different backgrounds (Vivian is from the Big City and who grew up, IIRC, lower middle class, as she could afford to moved to the west coast to go to college, Phillip is from an unstated rural part of California who came from nothing to become a judge) and while heavily active in the west coast civil rights movement scene, both held strong moderate/center-right views and worked hard to effectively join and become part of the establishment culminating in them becoming rich and having a house in the wealthy part of LA.
Similarly, Phil's chief nemesis in the series is a fellow black man who is a super corrupt judge who while falsely accusing the conservative Phil by claiming he'll be soft on crime via a blatant dog whistle attack ad (one that Phil refuses to acknowledge, much to his regret as it costs him the election though he still gets the seat when the evil judge promptly drops dead of a heart attack at his victory party) while Vivian? When they swapped actresses they completely castrated the character and turned her into a generic stay at home mom and got rid of EVERYTHING that made her cool and interesting.
3. Hillary: Hillary was a spoiled and selfish and a total brat who was content to leech off her parents wealth until they found out that she was flunking out of college and forced her into the real world and getting work. She was the Quinn to Carlton/Will's Daria/Jane and I doubt SJWs would allow her to be presented in such an antagonistic fashion, especially since unlike Carlton, Hillary (and to a lesser extent Ashley) never had to deal with any racial stuff and who lived a blissful existence where their being black never became a huge issue for them.
On a side note; I really want to revisit FPoBA but the DVDs are all butchered to remove the music from them and IIRC the one time I tried to torrent them, the episodes I downloaded were based on the DVD cuts and as such were missing all of the original music, most notably the Tom Jones bits with Cartlon.
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She's absolutely right if you change "racist" for "stupid" since the West Coast states, New York, Massachusetts, etc. are pretty damn beautiful but full of crazies. You find a nice house by the coast there, odds are it's owned by a rich white guy from San Francisco, Portland (both Maine and Oregon Portland), Boston, etc. who simps for "racial justice" and donates tens of thousands to BLM and the Democrats and has kids who hang out with Antifa. It's really sad so many beautiful parts of the US are overran by lunatics.View attachment 1643974
Oh, you mean the icky rural places with no culture that you fled for cities? But now that you have destroyed the cities, you want to ruin the rest of the country too?
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Trump has not "led us to dissolution", the steady parade of narcissists and cronies you've elected have done that.