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Quick question: do you guys think that the Terentatek was inspired by any past SW concept art?

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Just asking, because he seems like a Bull Rancor on steroids........

Anyhow, this picture is but one of many that proves how powerful the Sith are. Teneb Kel here is just a mere apprentice of a failed master, he's the kind of low-ranking scum that real Sith masters scrape off their boots on their way to real battles, and here he cooks a monster that can eat Space Marines for breakfast.
 
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I preferred Boba Fett as a bad version of the silent gunslinger who is just a man with a reputation and not a clone...
...He is. He was born because Jango wanted a son, so he ain't just some mass-produced product. And then he watched a black man with a purple sword behead his father and he was never the same

and that black's name? Samuel L. Einstein
 
...He is. He was born because Jango wanted a son, so he ain't just some mass-produced product. And then he watched a black man with a purple sword behead his father and he was never the same

and that black's name? Samuel L. Einstein
Which is why I actually prefer Boba Fett being more loyal to the Empire than to the Mandalorians. The Empire enslaved the Mandalorians in the old canon and waged war against them in the new, but Boba Fett stood by the Empire and continued working for them. Why? Because the Emperor killed the man who decapitated his father. That would be more than enough to buy the loyalty of most men, and Boba Fett was even introduced as Darth Vader's right-hand man:


Basically, if I were in charge, I'd make Boba Fett remain as Darth Vader's loyal right-hand man. The same way Canderous Ordo was for Darth Revan in KOTOR. Especially given what happened in the films, where Vader chopped off Mace Windu's hand and the Emperor blasted Windu out of a window, which would earn them Boba Fett's eternal gratitude and loyalty. And it also explains why a man in Mandalorian armor was working for empire that has either enslaved or waged war against the Mandalorians. I never agreed with the idea that the Mandalorians would allow him to lead them back in the EU, especially when he was the Mandalorian equivalent of Vidkun Quisling, and logically, he'd get shot by the Mandalorians for working with the guys who threw them into concentration camps. If he tried to lead the Mandalorians, he'd get fragged by his own men before they get to their first battlefield.
 
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Some people are acting surprised by the gender non-binary queersexuals in the game, thinking this is the first time Disney has pandered to tumblr genders. If anyone remembers my previous posts, Disney has been doing this crap since 2015 starting with Chuck Wendig who introduced Chaos genders to SW.
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Disney shills are resorting to the usual "-phobic" retorts while fence-sitters claim that the troon is an alien so it doesn't count despite the fact Mirialans are just a different race of humans with green and yellow skin in both canons. Also the who gender snowflake bs of the game was something I knew would be in their from the start when they decided to make it a tie-in to LGBTQIAlphabet Squadron. Either way, if Chuck Wendig weren't angry at Disney, I'm sure he'd be creaming his pants right now.

I think I may have something in the digital storage, but I'll have to check later.

Yeah, some of the nicknames from the film productions like Yak-Face, Hammerhead, Squidface, Three-Eyes, Starfish, pig-lizard, etc were kept as either nicknames in-universe for some or racial slurs for others. That way every species gets an N-Word.

Anyway, back to ROTJ.

Some more concept art of Jabba's introduction scene where he was far smaller.
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About only R2's height and with his tail length being only around the same size as 3PO's height.

Some more of a more adequately sized Jabba.
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An uglier corpse-like Jabba.
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One of Luke speaking with a skinnier Jabba.
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Thinner Hutts would be introduced into the lore as regular civilians or those serving under other Hutts, although they were rarely seen outside of novels and sourcebooks.
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With the fattest hutts being those who gained some level of influence, as being a fat tub of lard was considered a sign of wealth and power among hutts.

Pretty much this, so the majority were fat because of this desire to showcase their "godhood", as even their god Boonta was a super fat Hutt and warlord who was said to have ascended to godhood because of his great power and worshipers. So Hutts would naturally emulate this fat sack of corruption since its partly because of him that the Hutts were able to re-establish an empire of sorts. Although not all Hutts were inherent pricks, but the vast majority of them were (like 95%) because they had a chosen race/god complex due to that their history claims that they once ruled over the universe before a great calamity ruined the omnipotent Hutt Empire, then Boonta stepped up to try and fix shit for the Hutts but just barely. Another issue with them is that attaining success by any means is considered "honorable", especially when you have others do the work for you, so their overall culture seems normal to them but quite toxic to anyone who's not a Hutt. However good Hutts did exist, but they were almost as rare as skinny ones, with some Hutts running fancy hotels and spas with no ulterior motive or some serving as managers at spaceports or trade businesses, or some who ran some criminal pursuits but were considered generous and very lenient. The most notable good Hutts were Blotus and Azzim the Hutt.
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Blotus served as Supreme Chancellor of the Old Republic before the KOTOR era and was remembered as the greatest chancellor in Republic history.

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And Azzim was the owner of a luxury spa who detested violence and turned his private planet into a sanctuary for Mon Cala refugees centuries after ROTJ. Was also a humanoid-loving deviant who preferred happy strippers over miserable slaves.

Also speaking of Hutts, here's that finalized Hutt maquette by Tippett that is now being sold as a bust.
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The only piece of Disney crap that's even remotely interested me.

Anyway here's some more art of the palace by McQuarrie.
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The archway in the middle was used in TFA for Rey's planet, one of the few designs by McQuarrie to make it into Disney shit alongside the nu-X-Wings... KK and JJ's idiots would've benefited from using more than just a handful of pieces of art instead of shitting out whatever they wanted. And that was your regular dose of mandated griefing.

Some unused Banthas for ROTJ .
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These were drawn with rather long legs and skinnier frames. They would later be incorporated into lore as "Dune Banthas".

An unused part of Jabba's palace which would've served as the Gamorrean district or "clan-town".
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For all the gamorrean guards and their kin. Jabba sure seemed generous with room and board. Then again, did he even pay his stupider guards?

And speaking of Gamorreans... while Dave Carson's fantasy orc design was chosen as the final design, McQuarrie made his own Gamorrean designs.
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These designs looked a bit more like modern scifi, with blasters and more alien armor. They were also more reptilian, resembling Trandoshans like Bossk from ESB or the Saurins from the Chalmun's cantina scene in ANH but with hairier bodies. These designs though were rejected. The ugly butt-faced design on the bottom right of the third pic may be based on an unused alien bounty hunter design from ESB by McQuarrie as well.

The next are another race of guards and are ones I covered before in the Monsters and Aliens Guide, however the ROTJ art book has more pics of them. Conceived by Jamero.
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I just call them rhino-faces since these things never got a name or even a nickname and went completely unused in the film which is a shame since I always liked their design. Despite this lack of use, a lone member of their unnamed species was introduced into lore in a supplement for the SW RPG courtesy of Joe Corroney, who was an illustrator for Lucasfilm, working on magazines, comics, etc.
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Kanarak was simply called an alien pirate but he was described as very violent and with a refusal to obey orders, only interested in gutting his enemies. Strangely, he was the only one of the crew whose species and origins remained vague. Still its possible something matching its description existed in a text-only guide, but that'd be impossible to remember.

Some sort of rejected crustacean design by Jamero.
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Maybe a palace visitor or a rejected design for Jabba? I don't recall this one ever being used.

A rejected guard design for another species that would've made its home at Jabba's and would've functioned as his couriers as well.
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These guys I discussed before in the M&A guide however I didn't remember if they were used in lore then, but after seeing the drinking one and the shoes on the others it hit me. These actually did get used in lore and were re-introduced by none other than Genndy Tartakovsky for the Clone Wars miniseries in the form of Nilo the Rodisar.
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One of Ventress' opponents during her first appearance in the arena. The Rodisars were described as primitive and war-like, engaging in "Winter Wars", with Nilo having been kidnapped from his homeworld to compete in the alien arena. And in case it wasn't obvious, Nilo and his species were named after their creator, Jamero himself, full name Nilo Rodis Jamero *wink wink-nudge nudge*.

Dozens of wonderful miniatures by Tippett and Seeds.
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A few here never actually made it into the movie, however the unused maquettes all found their way into lore with the exception of the four-armed humanoid Jabba with the Fu Manchu face.

And here we have the many designs of Salacious B. Crumb, Jabba's faithful jester and spy.
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View attachment 1639789Conceived and named by Phil Tippett, first design by Jamero, numerous head designs by McQuarrie (all of which were rejected), and the puppet by Tony McVey. Some designs looked Goblin-like while others were more alien and were never used again outside of background characters in the old Marvel comics, although the more goblin-esque design may have served as a basis for Pic, a mutated member of Crumb's species from the Dark Forces games. Salacious B. Crumb himself got his rather complex name during one of Tippett's many drunken stupors with his fellow craftsmen. After leaving the bar, he bent down to tie his shoelaces and garbled out "gotta tie my soolayces", he and the drunk crew were then hit with inebriated inspiration and decided to name the puppet "Soolayces". George was not to keen on the name, instead he jumbled it a little into "Salacious" and gave him the last name B. Crumb, in honor of R. Crumb, creator of Fritz the Cat. Possibly because of this reference, Crumb was given a very perverted personality, as displayed through his constant oggling and even more so in a deleted scene involving him and the dancer Jess, as well as his habit of spying on the palace women when also doing spy duty for Jabba. His unique laugh was provided by Tim Rose who also did dear old Ackbar fyi.

So as you can see, for a stupid court animal, Crumb had a very complex history both irl and in-universe.
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As for in-universe lore, Crumb is a Kowakian Monkey Lizard who snuck aboard Jabba's ship during a business trip years ago. The little vermin helped himself to Jabba's food which angered the Hutt upon finding him. He then ordered his majordomos to kill the little runt. However Crumb ended up making fools of Jabba's top two in a rather comical way. Jabba was so amused that he decided to keep the obnoxious lizard as his jester. He later realized the creature was far more intelligent than it let on and had him act as his spy in the palace.

And to finish off for now, here are three iconic aliens fathered by Chris Walas which would become part of the common background cast.
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Unlike the Ishi Tib and Elom, these three much like Yak-Face, did not receive species or individual names from their creator apparently due to time constraints. Instead he gave them the nicknames Tooth-Face, Squidface and Three Eyes, with their species and individual names first being conceived in the 1987 and 1989 sourcebooks, and the 1995 anthology Tales from Jabba's Palace.

View attachment 1639869*First off is Toothface/J'Quille who would later receive the proper name of J'Quille in 1995 and his species name was received in 1989 in the Galaxy Race guide which dubbed them Whiphids, however Toothface would remain as a species slur. JJ and his moronic crew for Plan IX used J'Quille's design as the basis for the horse aliens in the stupid cavalry scene because they thought the designs went unused... They sure knew their stuff eh? That concludes another mandated griefing. J'Quille's lore in 1995 established him as a lover of Lady Valarian (pictured right), a fellow Whiphid who succeeded Gardulla the Hutt after her death, and J'Quille now acted as her spy at Jabba's where he worked for Jabba as a bounty hunter. He didn't accompany Jabba aboard the sailbarge, but he suffered a fate worse than death when the B'omarr monks took out his brain to "purify" him.

View attachment 1639863*Second is Squidface/Tessek who later received his name in the 1990 galaxy guide where he was called Tessek from then on. However his species name the Quarren would come first in the 1987 sourcebook. Tessek much like the Gamorreans was another fantasy-inspired species, specifically the robed Mind Flayers of D&D lore (first introduced in 1975) who Gygax based on the book The Burrowers Beneath which was itself based on Lovecraft mythos. However, aside from appearance, the similarities end there, other than being very xenophobic, having a superiority complex and having a love for dark places. The Quarren are from the same planet (Dac) as Ackbar's species the Mon Calamari, and both have had a long standing feud, and have remained the most recurring background aliens alongside Ithorians before Disney screwed them over until Mandalorian came around. Tessek himself was described as Jabba's accountant who was also a spy for Lady Valarian, with plans to kill Jabba then take control of his businesses and sell half to Valarian, so you can imagine how much joy he got when Luke and the gang were able to do the work for him. He was one of the lucky few to survive the sail barge explosion, however he was also fucked over by the B'omarr monks.

View attachment 1639918*Thirdly is Three-Eyes/Ree-Yees who was the only one of the three that Walas had time to give a real name to, "Ree-Yees", an obvious anagram of Three Eyes. His species name though was given later in the 1990 galaxy guide, "Gran" which would also become one of the most recurring species and probably the ugliest spotlight alien, being closest to matching Disney aliens, but since he's surrounded by so many colorful and less deformed faces, he stands out in a good way. His design is mostly meant to be a mix of alien and goat, and overall he resembles the aliens from Mac&Me but with three eyes and antenna. His costume in ROTJ gave him oversized hoof-like hands with tiny fingers, but future media and the prequels would depict the Gran as having humanoid hands with six fingers, with a later guide labeling Ree-Yees a deformed genetic throwback. His species were also essentially fucking communists, and he was exiled after murdering a relative. He then found a home among Jabba's court where he was made the caretaker of Jabba's pet, Bubo, the big ugly frog-dog and he also had a hostile relationship with Tessek who he called Squidface. He later died a gruesome death aboard the sailbarge because he was drunk...

All that's left now are three alien guards, the Sarlacc and Sand Barge/Skiff concepts before moving on to Endor and the Death Star
That concept art of the gamorrean district..... I remember renting a book from the library when I was little with that exact art... I dont remember what it was. it mightve been a concept art book but theres a small part of me that thinks it was the illustrated star wars universe
 
Quick question: do you guys think that the Terentatek was inspired by any past SW concept art?

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Just asking, because he seems like a Bull Rancor on steroids........

Anyhow, this picture is but one of many that proves how powerful the Sith are. Teneb Kel here is just a mere apprentice of a failed master, he's the kind of low-ranking scum that real Sith masters scrape off their boots on their way to real battles, and here he cooks a monster that can eat Space Marines for breakfast.

No mention of Gardulla the Hutt? Shame.
 
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Sadly, not canon anymore.
It is to me. Although officially, Legends canon incorporates Seasons 1-5 of Clone Wars, so apparently she lived. The dragon died before she could be fully digested, and she crawled out of its stomach, came out through its maw, and continued her rule for a while.
 
Quick question: do you guys think that the Terentatek was inspired by any past SW concept art?

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Just asking, because he seems like a Bull Rancor on steroids........
Funnily enough no. The Terentateks are actually another creature that had its origins in D&D lore much like the Quarren and Gamorreans.
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With the Terentatek being based on the Umber Hulks from the 1st Edition of D&D. This is even less surprising as the KOTOR development team had also worked on a Neverwinter Nights game beforehand. Another notable thing they shared in common was their origins, with the Umber Hulks being evil sorcerer-created mutants and the Terentateks being Sith-created mutants. SWTOR would later redesign them to be even more spiky and bulkier to make them more unique.
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However the overall body shape and mouth pincers remained the same.

It is to me. Although officially, Legends canon incorporates Seasons 1-5 of Clone Wars, so apparently she lived. The dragon died before she could be fully digested, and she crawled out of its stomach, came out through its maw, and continued her rule for a while.
I still have little reason to treat Filoni Wars as such considering all the other things they changed for the sake of references and conveniences while also just undermining Genndy despite being based on the miniseries he created. And Gardulla's revival was pointless and convoluted, and even after she escaped Filoni has her act as a subordinate to Jabba, her fucking rival and even gives her her own palace smack dab in the middle of the Hutt Capital. She never even does anything after this except just fade away.

Anyway, back to ROTJ art...
(where I left off: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/star-wars-griefing-thread-spoilers.32492/post-7472053)

I covered one of these creatures before in the M&A guide. They were designed by Jamero too and I mentioned that Mass Effect's Elcor loosely resembled the last design.
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Started off insect-like before getting more and more mammalian. The homeworld of these things, called "Yde", was brought into lore in 2009. Their world's capital was called Desultori.

And here we have concept art of Luke in his iconic dark outfit and one of Leia's hairstyle.
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Also a production pic of Luke getting a boner.

And here's Lando in his infamous Tamtel Skreej disguise, conceived by Aggie Guerard and Jamero.
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Funny story, Jamero and the rest got the idea for Lando's helmet while playing baseball at the ranch. During the game, he put a glove on Wade Childress's head (the equipment engineer) as a joke. Everyone loved the way it looked and took the idea to costume designer Richard Davis who then created the iconic helmet we know today after some design sketches by Jamero fleshed out the shape. The tusks were meant to look like hunting trophies. Years later the tusks in lore would be classified as belonging to a Gondar, presumably named after the Ethiopian city or possibly a misspelling of ESB's Gundark which then stuck as its own creature. Though the Skiff Guard outfit ultimately went unused compared to the Tamtel disguise, I think I remember seeing something like it elsewhere...

Concept art of Han Solo revived.
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And here we have the Nikto species, SW's most recurring thugs.
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The reason for the varied appearances of this one species is that each one was labeled a different race of the same species. Probably the most used alien costumes for Jabba's court alongside Gamorreans. The Green Niktos were created and named by Ken Ralston and were the first of the batch, and each Green Nikto was given his own nickname during production, such as Wooof, Giran, and mostly notably Klaatu, who was the poster boy of the bunch. The Red (formerly Gray) Niktos were simply called Niktos and had not been given any unique names during production and were created and named by Phil Tippett, however later media established them as Nysad, Lathe and Vizam. The lighter colored Red Nikto was apparently a recycled costume from the Holiday Special of the character Kelbo (pictured below), however later lore would call the one in ROTJ a red nikto due to his spikes, he would also be given the name of Vedain. Its possible that both the noseless Niktos were all based on whatever concept resulted in Kelbo's creation. The unused gray concept art would later be incorporated into lore as a Pale Nikto. Keldo's unaltered design from the Holiday Special though was used for the yellow "Southern Nikto".
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And here's a pic of all the Nikto races together, minus one that wasn't based on any known concept art or pre-existing costume as far as I know that was described as a "Sea Nikto". The Nikto in lore would be established as a subordinate and slave species for the Hutts. And if wasn't obvious enough already, Klaatu and Nikto are obvious references to the command "Klaatu Barada Nikto" from the classic scifi film The Day the Earth Stood Still. So you're probably wondering "where's Barada?" Well here he is now.

Concept art of Captain Barada the Klatooinian, dreamer and leader of the Sand Barge crew! Conceived by Dave Carson and Jamero.
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While Barada got his name in production, his species went without one for years, but later sources such as the Thrawn Trilogy would refer to them as Baradas as well before switching to Klatooinians, however later sources would compromise on this by labeling Baradas as another name for Klatooinians, named after their legendary leader Barada, establishing it as a popular name as well.
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As for inspiration, Klatooinians/Barada's designs were meant to be vicious lizard-dogs a la D&D 1E Kobolds with a stronger emphasis on the bulldog aspect. Later lore would establish their species as primitive but not too primitive with a strong love of tradition.

And here are the Weequays, or as they were called then "Queequegs", conceived by Jamero.
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These iconic leather faces were named after and based on the tribal islander character of the same name from the Moby Dick novel. Hence their strong tribal influence. They were given the species name Weequay a year later in one of the guides and George seemingly accepted this name over Queequeg during an interview with SWG Magazine in 95. In-universe wise, the main Weequay who the name Queequeg was mostly associated with was later given the name Rook, who was killed by Luke during the riot. Some in Jabba's court did not trust this species, seeing them as shifty and traitorous.

To finish it off for now, here's some concept art I missed before:
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While under the disguise of Bouush, Leia would've had blonde hair.

More Slave Leia designs, some more revealing than the final version.
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And now for the real hot stuff...
An unused Jamero concept art which depicted the Rancor as a completely Elemental creature made of fire and molten magma.
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While this one never made it into lore, a similarly molten beast called a Jawenko was introduced as a Tatooine boss in the Super SW game on the SNES.
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Much like the proto magma rancor, the Jawenko was fought by a trapped Luke in a lower "dungeon" that was actually the engine room of a Jawa sandcrawler. The creature would later be made a part of SW lore as a magma beast native to Mustafar but members of the species were abandoned on Tatooine where they ended up being worshiped as guardian deities by Sand People and Jawas.

(continued here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/star-wars-griefing-thread-spoilers.32492/post-7480984)
 
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The Super Star Wars games ranks as some of the weirdest Star Wars games ever seen until Star Wars Kinect.
The 1987 game for the NES was way weirder tbh. Especially those weird ass Vader fights. And at least unlike the NES version, the SNES follows the movie to degree with added wackiness adding to the entertainment value that's actually based on rejected concept art.

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That concept art of the gamorrean district..... I remember renting a book from the library when I was little with that exact art... I dont remember what it was. it mightve been a concept art book but theres a small part of me that thinks it was the illustrated star wars universe
Its been featured in a lot of art books over the years. Like the ROTJ art book and the Ralph McQuarrie art book. And some guides too I believe.
 
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Another thing about Jabba's palace was the song. "Lapti Nek." George was like "I want music number, John (Williams), write something that sounds like space disco." And John replied "I hate disco." and had his son write it. The original was different than the movie and was on the laser disc of ROTJ.

When I was young I really liked the original song, still do now of course. The whole feeling of that number was strange and a little creepy so it made sense. The Special Edition change was horrifically bad and the breaking of the 4th wall parts are terrible. It is one of the worst changes (mistakes) of the special editions.

The puppetry looked so much more real than the silly cartoon cgi monstrosities.
 
Some quick news:
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*Gina Carano blocked some Disney assholes. Good on her.
*Disney released some unholy Holiday Special Rey and Stormtrooper toys to tie in with the upcoming Lego Holiday Special they're making.
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FUCKING SNOW PORGS! CONSUME!
*Disney laid off even more employees.
*Galaxy's Edge is still broken.
*Mitch Dyer is still a hack writer.
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*Mandalorian is still going to use shitty Disney aliens while bringing in Disney rejects and pointless cameos. So much for that.
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*Charles Soule confirms that High Republic will be a never ending nightmare...
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*Squadrons had its characters be related to First Order shitters.
*Some good news though. Squadrons is not performing as expected so far. Being outdone by Crash 4 and not even coming close to the numbers of Fallen Order or even remotely close to Crash the N. Sane Trilogy.
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Now back to ROTJ art before I get sick...
(where I left off: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/star-wars-griefing-thread-spoilers.32492/post-7475584)

Here is another unused design for Jabba's palace which I think was recycled for either Genndy Wars or Filoni Wars, or both...
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Memory's too fuzzy.

Another unholy Jabba design alongside an HD look at humanoid Jabba who is truly disgusting and would fit right in at Disney.
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And some more Jabba concepts.
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The last one was probably the least anthropomorphic.

And gross Frog Jabba with four legs.
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Another Rancor design.
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Another Rodisar concept by Rodis Jamero.
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An early Lando helmet before the baseball glove sealed the deal.
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More B'omarr Monk designs by McQuarrie.
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Another unused lizard gamorrean design by McQuarrie.
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Pretty much the same as the ones before only with smaller eyes.

An early bust by Tippett of an unused alien called "Hole in Head", the original brainlet Wojak.
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Before Disney started making brainless creatures left and right, Hole in Head was the closest to matching that (Krelman doesn't count since that freak just had a second mouth), except he actually has a whole skull with just an added appendage on top which is actually more of a ear organ, therefore making him not actually brainless, just odd. Would later be introduced into lore as the Adarian species. They didn't appear too frequently, only having like a handful of appearances.

Concept art of the other green nikto guard, Wooof who I mentioned before.
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You'd think the name Wooof would've better suited the dog-like Barada, but whatever.

Several critters designed by Ken Ralston for ROTJ all of which went unused.
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However the dog in the middle would be pitched again for the third Star Trek movie, the Search for Spock where it became the Klingon Dog. The design though would later be used in SW as well as the basis for the Corellian Slice Hound in the SWG MMO.

Unused alien designs by Johnston.
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The third one though would make it into the movie as barely visible background alien who was given the nickname "Toadstool Terror"... I'm sensing a Tippett joke here... Anyway its female, hence the "model" pose. Ms. Toadstool wouldn't get any sort of name until over a decade later in 1998, probably later than most, where she was dubbed Loje Nella in the card game that also gave names to the Ishi Tib.
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Another addition for the collection @Flexo. The card described her as an assistant to one of Jabba's Ishi Tib accountants and her nameless species was referred to as descendants of Tatooine's Cliff Worms from the SNES game. Despite this, a species based on her concept art was introduced in a 1993 guide called a Riorian, the main difference being this creature had a body, and as such was treated as a different species. Later a species that looked exactly like her was introduced two years later called a Rutanian, so that was probably her species name. As you can see in the card, which is also a production still, Loje's final design was covered in moss unlike her maquette.

And here is one of the most hideous aliens of all in old canon almost on par with Disney's but makes up for it for the same reasons as Ree-Yees. Especially since his entire existence is because of a joke that went too far. Here is Hermi Odle by Ralph McQuarrie (concept art from ROTJ as well as the Illustrated Pop up book by RM).
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His face was likely based on one of the uglier Jabba concepts, specifically the zombie-like ones. His original name during the conceptual phase was "Hemmy Moroid", in other words, he is a walking hemorrhoid joke, probably another result of Tippett drinking too much. When his species, the Baragwin, were formally introduced in the galaxy races guide, a member was ugly but lacked Hermi's deformities, and future depictions removed all ugly traits, making them more like reptilian molemen. By the time the film was done, his name was changed to Hermi Odle, a pun on Hear me Yodel, likely a choice by Lucas to make the character's crude origins less obvious. In lore, he acted as Jabba's weapons designer and a pussy who jumped ship the first chance he got but not before getting his face even more fucked up.

Rejected rancor design by McQuarrie that would slowly devolve into the lumbering Ephant Mon by Tippett.
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During production, he was simply called the Elephant Man (resembling a real life shovel-tusker) which resulted in him eventually being formally dubbed Ephant Mon. He had an opening in his shoulder to be used for operating Crumb when he sat on him. His role in the court was seen as something of a confidant alongside Fortuna but more trustworthy. Mon's species would be dubbed the Chevin a few years later in the 1990 galaxy guide and his backstory fleshed out in the 1995 anthology, where he was revealed to be the closest thing Jabba had to a friend, often trying to give advice to Jabba and warn him of betrayal. Because of this, he was put in charge of overseeing Jabba's guards and security. Probably as a reference to his less than humble concept origins, Mon was described as a powerful warrior in his youth, sadly very little SW media ever showed young Chevins, likely out of fear that fans wouldn't recognize the species if drawn big and monstrous.

In lore, Mon was fearful and in awe of Luke, believing him to be a real jedi after feeling a strange "holiness" emanating from him and witnessing his killing of the Rancor, and he tried to warn Jabba to listen to Luke and
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give him what he wants, who was then angered by Mon's cowardice, and these constant warnings resulted in Jabba banishing Mon from his court. Although the film and guides at the time of release had him as not being aboard the sand barge, a deleted scene from ROTJ had him aboard the sand barge arguing with Saelt aka Yak-Face, however the scene was kept in the ROTJ novelization released beforehand which instead had him arguing with Ree-Yees the Gran, but the film superseded the novel and Mon was kept off the barge. The result was Mon hesitantly leaving Jabba's side despite their past friendship, with Mon deciding to go back to his homeworld and spread the word of the mighty Luke Skywalker and the Return of the Jedi (*wink wink nudge nudge*) eventually starting a religious temple with Luke and the Force at its center. So eat shit Disney, as this is the kind of respect a galactic hero deserved. And there's your regular dose of mandated griefing. Also a good example of a character not serving as the stereotype for an entire species, as his species was later depicted as a culture of nomads, hunters and slave traders.

Here is the final prominent alien of Jabba's court. Pote Snitkin. Conceived and named by Ken Ralston and drawn by Jamero.
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One of the few background aliens to not only get a name but a last name too. Although some on set would call him Snit Plotkin. The character wasn't a guard, just a pilot for one of the sand skiffs, yet sadly he was still struck down by Luke. He was a real good boy who dindunuffin... except sell weapons. The name of his species though would come much later in 1995 which was dubbed the Skrilling, a primitive bunch that didn't even have a name for their planet or their own kind until they were colonized by Xenophobic Moss-covered Space Lesbians.

And here we have the concept art of the Almighty Sarlacc of the Great Pit of Carkoon as sketched by McQuarrie and Jamero.
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The sarlacc was intended to have a head with a beak-like mouth, making it more of a mobile sandworm with tentacles that sprouted around its body before becoming just a plant-based mouth in the desert due to technical limitations. The Jamero beak ended up being used in the special edition though, as a sort of "head/tongue". The Pit of Carkoon was also going to be given a simpler name ie the Sloth Pit. In lore, death by Sarlacc is probably the worst way to go, as you're basically being turned into a part of the Sarlacc for over 4000 years and even after you're fully digested the suffering doesn't end as your mind slowly merges with it for the rest of its horribly long life. Because of its centuries-long life, some believed it to be immortal and worshiped the Sarlacc, hence the "almighty" title, seeing it as a way of achieving physical immortality by letting it eat you or seeing it as a great demon that needs to be satisfied. The Sarlacc is considered a creature that blurs the line between plant and animal, starting off life as a vicious sandworm-like hunter before it reaches middle age and becomes rooted to live life more akin to a carnivorous plant, at which point its metabolism becomes incredibly slow. I actually hope I can cover this in more detail in a future post since the sarlacc life cycle is a nice gorefest.

And finally Jabba's beloved Barge, the Khetanna.
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Initially, the Khetana went through several designs, with the sails originally functioning much like real sails instead of sun shields and the Khetana overall looked way more classical. In lore, the Khetana was classified as an Ubrikkian Luxury-Class Sail Barge. After its destruction, Jawas looted all of the non-destroyed valuables and parts, leaving behind only the worthless charred husk.

Next up is either the Death Star or Endor. You decide.

(continued here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/star-wars-griefing-thread-spoilers.32492/post-7490970)
 
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@GeneralFriendliness Endor has my vote.

So High Republic is going to be a long-term wound that will fester with abysmal writing quality for years to come. Wonderful.

The timing couldn't be better, because by 2021 I'll have finished my jaunt into the post-Endor EU, before starting over in the timeline and tackling all things Old Republic, which will create constant opportunities for comparison.
 
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Holiday Special Stormtroopers? Why not a figure of old Obi-Wan dressed up like Santa Claus? That would have worked better. Or have Yoda, Obi-Wan, and Windu dressed up like the Three Wise Men. It is Christmas, after all.

The Death Star has my vote.

@GeneralFriendliness Endor has my vote.

So High Republic is going to be a long-term wound that will fester with abysmal writing quality for years to come. Wonderful.

The timing couldn't be better, because by 2021 I'll have finished my jaunt into the post-Endor EU, before starting over in the timeline and tackling all things Old Republic, which will create constant opportunities for comparison.

Look on the bright side, we'll get more stuff to make fun of! I can't wait for them to come out with something that makes the Revan novel look like a masterpiece of storytelling!
 
I have to wonder if the writers really have enough of an engaging plotline to last multiple years. Somehow, I don't see Jedi Treasure Hunts and fights with Space Vikings having a lot of narrative longevity...this isn't exactly NJO, where the writers were detailing the next big conflict in the Star Wars Universe and centering the plot around a giant mystery concerning the enemy faction.

This is probably going to be the writers spinning their wheels and dropping eye-rolling world-building Easter Eggs in place of a real story...in fact, since Charles Soule is involved, that's almost exactly what this is going to be. His Darth Vader comics are just literally that, with a dash of cringe-inducing anime melodrama.
 
Why even do the "High Republic"? Why does it have that name? You have thousands of years to work with and you choose 200 years before TPM? It's so silly and confining. The creative decision to limit yourself in that particular way is inexplicable. You can't even use Yoda as an anchor for the audience to follow as he matures into who we meet later seeing as he is 600-700 years old already? So it's just new characters(which is fine as an idea but considering who is writing they will be shit) encountering forces which simultaneously cannot be the Sith(unless they break canon which would be one of the more retarded things Disney has done) but kind of have to be Sith related due to time constraints. Why choose to tell a story with such a tiny window of successful execution?
 
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I really hate the British accent=evil trope, but there was something magical about all the professional Imperial Navy officers being more English than the Royal Navy.
I'm saying this because I fucking hate how the Empire, which according to one of the Rogue One writer dipshits is a white supremacist organization, is now a melting pot that looks ridiculous.
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Ah whatever. The consoomers can keep Squadrons, I already own TIE Fighter and it's still as good today as it was 26 years ago.
 
I think they went with the British accent thing because most of the cast *was* English, iirc. I think I remember Lucas having an explanation about it but it's been so long that I've forgot. Besides, the accent sounds very haughty and that's the personality most Imperial officers and higher social ranking citizens had.
 
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