Apple Thread - The most overrated technology brand?

What killed Steve Jobs?

  • Pancreatic Cancer

    Votes: 60 12.2%

  • AIDS from having gay sex with Tim Cook

    Votes: 431 87.8%
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Sammy said:
Yeah its mostly going to be a cost cutting measure. Though Apple's hardly the first company to do it, I'm looking at you Nintendo
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I think that was just with the New Nintendo 3DS XL. The New 2DS XL and everything since came with power adapters (in the USA).

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It's silly to frame it as an environmental issue, but really, I'm fine with it. I probably own three times as many USB power adapters than devices that charge via USB at this point, so I won't suffer too much if the next device I buy doesn't have one. Should that change, I can get an adapter at just about any electronics, department, or convenience store.
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Apple makes really nice ones though, and they're now a multi-trillion dollar company, so they're the last ones that should quit giving out adapters. Even Wish.com junk often comes with them.

(That being said, modern power strips should come with several USB ports in addition to 6 power outlets by now)
 
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Minor things.

1. Some Samsung leaker's got some flawed results and is saying they show off that the A14 is slower than Qualcomm's offerings. Problem is that the results show that the A14 would be slower than the base A12.

2. There's rumours of a Big Sur OS release in October, and with it, maybe some hardware.

But most importantly, Apple won an Emmy for The Morning Show.
 
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I really don't like how in iOS 14, Siri doesn't show you how it's interpreting your words as you speak like earlier versions did. You hold down the button and the Siri icon comes up and then it just shows… nothing. It's unsettling. I don't know if it can hear me or if my phone's lagging or if it's about to misinterpret what I'm asking… Even if they don't want to print the words for some reason, some sort of visual feedback that Siri is hearing something would be more comfortable, I think.

That aside, I do like the new springboard widgets, though I have a smaller phone - they're probably more useful the larger your screen is.
 
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So, our favourite dreamer's got his hands on an iPad Air 4, and has put it through Geekbench.


The A14 got 1583 single core and 4198 multicore.

For comparison, A13 had 1336 single and 3569 multi.
A12Z has 1228 single and 4564 multi.

A later tweet's saying a 27% increase in Metal, which would put it at about 9200, as compared to the A13's 7880-7900.
For rough Mac comparisons, it's around the 10th gen Intel i7 level, which is a custom 13 inch MacBook Pro.
 
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Doublepost, since this is newsworthy.

The A14's Metal performance benchmark has been found. https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/compute/1581541

It's clocked 12571, which beats the A12Z by 900 points, and makes the A13 look like a joke with a 5000 point difference. and puts it on par with a Radeon Pro 555 (2017 15 inch MBP) or a nVidia MX150, which are 3 year old laptop graphics cards.
 
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LegoTugboat said:
Doublepost, since this is newsworthy.

The A14's Metal performance benchmark has been found. https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/compute/1581541

It's clocked 12571, which beats the A12Z by 900 points, and makes the A13 look like a joke with a 5000 point difference. and puts it on par with a Radeon Pro 555 (2017 15 inch MBP) or a nVidia MX150, which are 3 year old laptop graphics cards.
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As someone looking at how these things are going to play in Macs, I'd like to see a comparison with the iGPU on Intel's 10th-gen Core processors, since that's about what Apple Silicon will be replacing in lower-end (more-affordable) laptops and desktops. I can't figure out how to find that info on the site, though.
 
What if the Apple I and II line never ended and they kept making new ones, instead of making the little black and white Macintosh?
 
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What if the Apple I and II line never ended and they kept making new ones, instead of making the little black and white Macintosh?
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They did. The Apple III was an abject failure.

Because Steve Jobs had defenestrated Woz by then, in his infinite ego he decreed it must have no vents or fans because they were ugly and noisy. The result was a machine that cooked itself and got hot enough for the chips to become desoldered. A legit troubleshooting method was to pick it up and drop it three inches to jerk the chips back into their sockets.
 
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What if the Apple I and II line never ended and they kept making new ones, instead of making the little black and white Macintosh?
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The Apple IIc and 16-bit IIGS actually came out after the Mac. Which was not a bad move; the Apple II line was a proven success and it would take a few years before Apple would be sure that the Mac was also going to be a success rather than another money-sucking failure like the III and Lisa.
 
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Least Concern said:
Woot has some killer discounts on refurbished 16" MBPs - over $600 off the 1TB SSD model. I'm tempted but I really don't need a screen that big…
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While you can save a couple hundred dollars buying from Woot, that might not be the best option because Apple authorized repair does a horrible job of refurbishing their boards. It won't take long before that computer fails again so it's money down the drain.

 
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Rossman repairs computers for a living, so he naturally sees a lot more broken ones than perfectly fine ones; people don't take their computers to him when they don't have a problem. I think that's warped his brain and made him think non-faulty Apple hardware is more of an exception than a rule. Take what he says with a grain of salt. I've bought refurbished Apple hardware before and had it last a normal lifetime.
 
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Least Concern said:
As someone looking at how these things are going to play in Macs, I'd like to see a comparison with the iGPU on Intel's 10th-gen Core processors, since that's about what Apple Silicon will be replacing in lower-end (more-affordable) laptops and desktops. I can't figure out how to find that info on the site, though.
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It's not quite the same, there's a few differences between a mobile and a laptop/desktop chip, but a tally of how things perform with Metal is here.

Of noteable mention, the A12X is faster than Intel Iris Plus (I believe it's the G7 that came with Ice Lake) (the highest ranked Intel chip on the list).

It's hard to say there because we have Tropico (3) on iPad and iPhone, which calls for 3 GB RAM and an iPhone 6S and up, which would put it at requiring an A9, or any iPad since 2017 (min A9)/any iPad Pro, and Civ 6 (and expansions) which calls for an A10 or above, and those, while not the most modern, are certainly very nice games.

As for how the A12X or A14 would compare with the Intel Iris Xe G7 (Tiger Lake), it's hard to say until we have more benchmarks/leaks, but we've seen the Xe G7 running Shadow of the Tomb Raider from 2016 at 30 fps on low in a crowded area.

WWDC had the dev kits running Shadow of the Tomb Raider at 26-30 fps in an open area on medium.

Edit - Arse did their mini review on the iPad 8, and mentioned that the A12 'may not' be able to handle all 3D games on the app store, so I'll add in a couple more out of curiosity.

Call of Duty Mobile: A9 and up.
Samurai Jack: Presumably A9 and up.
Oceanhorn 2: A10X and up.
Genshin Impact: A8 and up.
 
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That's an interesting case. Personally I would prefer to see these devices refurbished and resold whenever possible, and from what I understand, it's legal precedent that if you've thrown something away, someone else can claim possession of it. But if their contract said the recycling company couldn't resell them or absolutely had to destroy them, I guess that's another matter.
 
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