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Andy seems to have profound emotional problems and mental illness. The drugs and shitty company he keeps are just symptoms of a much bigger problem. He needs help and I hope he’s getting it.
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Someone needs to do a visualization of the lemon flow between grifters to see how circular it is.
I don't really personally think that Andy is currently at his worst. His downfall began a little bit before he and JF stopped making the show together and it was all downfall from there. But has has been at bit of an upswing the last couple of months. If he just ditched Ralph and completely separated his show from it and moves to the Azores with his girlfriend to start a family like he has planned for the spring, I think he might get to the highest point he has ever been at.
I had a volunteer task at 100 person meeting where a donation cup was walked around the room. Normally almost no one would donate I’d collect at best $2 in change. I tried peppering $2 in change (of my own) throughout the audience before the meeting saying “when I get to you throw this change in”Someone needs to do a visualization of the lemon flow between grifters to see how circular it is.
I think theyre counting entropy and chillstream viewers. But if you gotta be all: " yeah we got X veiwers on this platform and Y veiwers on this platform..." To talk up your numbers and show youve allready lost.counting the restream it was a bit over 3k
Yeah and Entropy viewers should already be included in the main stream count since Entropy is just loading that for each viewer. Now that he's back on Dlive, he's only getting 10 Entropy viewers anyway. It'd be hard to see if that number is being included in Dlive's count since it usually jumps around by that amount anyway.I think theyre counting entropy and chillstream viewers. But if you gotta be all: " yeah we got X veiwers on this platform and Y veiwers on this platform..." To talk up your numbers and show youve allready lost.
It's a manifestation of real recognize real. Ralph wouldn't have to brag about hitting 3rd rate twitch thot numbers for one show if he were an actual e-celeb or content creator of any note. He's trying to own the haters and convince himself he isn't a nobody. This is completely disregarding the fact that wanting to be an e-celeb is pathetic in the first place.I think theyre counting entropy and chillstream viewers. But if you gotta be all: " yeah we got X veiwers on this platform and Y veiwers on this platform..." To talk up your numbers and show youve allready lost.
if it is circular ralphs end giving back to the hosts must be off site because ralph is stingy af with his side of the lemon circle, but yeah youll notice they donate significantly more after ralph got mocked heavily for his below lowest minimum wage take in, i know bibble donated but i couldnt find his donation(s). but yeah fellow grifters are boosting up ralph's donations to btfo the alawgs, because i guess bumming off your friends means your show is somehow successful even though you can do that without a showSomeone needs to do a visualization of the lemon flow between grifters to see how circular it is.
I had a volunteer task at 100 person meeting where a donation cup was walked around the room. Normally almost no one would donate I’d collect at best $2 in change. I tried peppering $2 in change (of my own) throughout the audience before the meeting saying “when I get to you throw this change in”
Just seeing other people donate in fact made other people think that they SHOULD ALSO donate.
It increased the donations from $2 to about $10 whenever I did this.
So $10-$2 = $8 (quadruple the donations)
100 percent these grifters give out money to each other to be given back to them to encourage legit donations.
Of course, I’m talking about $ for a good cause and not for being a fagget on dlive.
i love that his bragging about viewers is starting to peter out immediately after we saw his actual numbers, i cant believe he just thought that more than doubling your audience view count with bots wouldnt be noticeable.Never broke 3k. I saw it go to 2.4k but that’s it. And I doubt any of Styx fans stuck around and became killstream fans. It’s a dying show with a core fan base of 300. Shits aborted
ralph probably doesnt return too much of the money, ralph is the drug addict friend that wants you to throw money at him whenever he messes up.While we know Ralph to be a liar, I suppose I can believe him when he said that the debate stream he had last week with 600 viewers netted him 400 dollars.
Just get your cohosts and your small circle of friends to give you money. They won't know if most of the money Ralph "earned" does not come from his audience! They won't know that Ralph returned the money after the bragging is over!
When the next self proclaimed major stream takes place, repeat the same charade all over again!
So long as Ralph can declare victory over the haters and make his show look good.
So i looked at ethan's paypigs and found warski and dingo donating hundreds of lemons, missed some but heres a sample, i dont know bibble's or gators dlive names
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Andy was going nowhere, barely 30 people in his chat. Probably sees Ralph as having resurrected his career. Mutual situation. Ralph gets someone who can make the show more interesting, interacts with the guests, takes the pressure off, etc. and Andy gets promotion. Andy might give him lemons as a thanks or something. Not sure if it's true or not, but I've heard there is some kind of good boy creator points for shilling and contributing to other creators on DLive, so maybe it's that.How fucking pathetic. Shouldn't Ralph be paying andy since andy is now ralph's bitch boy, like popping up a stream here and there for debates is cool but this dude showing up more times than gaydur...how can andy lose a hundred thousand subscribers YouTube channel hosting debates with thousands of viewers from...a hundred viewers and became a unpaid cohost of a fat retard talking about matt jarbo all day...matt is such low hanging fruit you look like a fucking loser trying to dunk on Matt.
Andy was going nowhere, barely 30 people in his chat. Probably sees Ralph as having resurrected his career. Mutual situation. Ralph gets someone who can may the show more interesting, interacts with the guests, takes the pressure off, etc. and Andy gets promotion. Andy might give him lemons as a thanks or something. Not sure if it's true or not, but I've heard there is some kind of good boy creator points for shilling and contributing to other creators on DLive, so maybe it's that.
Andy was going nowhere, barely 30 people in his chat. Probably sees Ralph as having resurrected his career. Mutual situation. Ralph gets someone who can may the show more interesting, interacts with the guests, takes the pressure off, etc. and Andy gets promotion. Andy might give him lemons as a thanks or something. Not sure if it's true or not, but I've heard there is some kind of good boy creator points for shilling and contributing to other creators on DLive, so maybe it's that.
He rode trends pretty good - atheism, anti-SJW, Kilroy, IBS, etc. He was big with the Skeptics. He had Chris Warski who would kind of tard wrangle him. The skeptics would also coordinate scripts and topics in skype and/or discords, so he could make coherent, well thought out vids. He also had streams where the Skeptics would go. He was kind of the host and the big players would go on his streams - Shoe, Jeff Holiday, Blair White, SomeBlackGuy, Computing Forever, Sargon, etc. He would have up and comers on too. He just had to laugh and make jokes. Then IBS came and he basically did the same things - but the IBS audience had tons of cash to throw at him. Plus he had an agent and an in with Youtube I imagine because of the high views. But if you watch those streams, to me anyway, while he could move things along, the guests were the stars and he was the comic relief. The platform he created brought the subs - not necessarily him.Seeing Andy’s performances these days, I wonder how on Earth did he convince 200k+ people to sub to his channel. His performance has of course declined, but he was never particularly great. I started paying attention around 2017, a few months before the Sargon / Spencer IBS, and IIRC he already had a lot of subs at that time.
I remember a while ago looking through his earnings on Dlive, you can see the income and donations. I scrolled through it for a long time and the only donations I saw Ralph give out were a few dollars thrown at the killstream thot and some other cam girl / whore he was obsessed with who streamed on Dlive at the time.ralph probably doesnt return too much of the money, ralph is the drug addict friend that wants you to throw money at him whenever he messes up.
I'd be happy to but I don't know enough about web development and I'd need a way to pull the Earnings data from Dlive into a spreadsheet. Could then get a rolling log of all their earnings and compare.Someone needs to do a visualization of the lemon flow between grifters to see how circular it is.
Yeah, if you look at the earnings data, at the end of the month, Dlive dishes out a few payments for "referral bonus". I'm guessing that's from the hosting thing he does. Dlive probably tracks who is watching through his hosting and gives him a bonus based on that.Andy was going nowhere, barely 30 people in his chat. Probably sees Ralph as having resurrected his career. Mutual situation. Ralph gets someone who can make the show more interesting, interacts with the guests, takes the pressure off, etc. and Andy gets promotion. Andy might give him lemons as a thanks or something. Not sure if it's true or not, but I've heard there is some kind of good boy creator points for shilling and contributing to other creators on DLive, so maybe it's that.
Yep, he throws 200-300 lemons at her, probably as payment for the TikTok garbage she does. I've never seen him throw lemons at other thots (doesn't mean he hasn't of course), but looking through who he follows, this chick stands out: https://dlive.tv/Jen_See I'm sure it's just because he likes her CoD gameplay.I remember a while ago looking through his earnings on Dlive, you can see the income and donations. I scrolled through it for a long time and the only donations I saw Ralph give out were a few dollars thrown at the killstream thot and some other cam girl / whore he was obsessed with who streamed on Dlive at the time.
I will say he is still on some sort of drugs, but in terms of mental illness i think he might be. This is how i view it, i think he had underlying mental issues and never sort help for them since they weren't apparent or even that bad and then when he started to hang around Ralph and he started doing drugs and drinking more that is where those issues started to manifest.It's actually really sad watching videos of Andy in 2017 and early 2018. Hes looks very healthy and is mostly coherent (if you ignore the stutter). He just comes off as a normal person. And although Andy has never been the funniest guy, he had some pretty funny material and shows at times.
Something radically changed halfway through 2018 and he really has never been the same. He always looks completely disheveled, can barely form sentences, and is not funny at all. He claims it was drug and alcohol. However he should be back to normal if hes no longer doing that like he says. It just makes me wonder if hes not suffering from some form of mild schizophrenia or some other mental illness and he never got the proper treatment for it. People in their late 20s and early 30s rarely have that kind of radical change in their personality without suffering from some sort if mental illness.