2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Truthboi said:
Yeah I admit this is bitter take since there are so many people who blindly believe what the media says. There are legitimate criticisms for Trump (his idiocy when it comes to the Internet being the easiest), but I did not put them in because most of the Trump complaints just parrot the media along with the fact that Biden's record is worse as his record pretty much shows he's a racist old neocon who cares more about lobbyists than the average american.
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What pisses me the most tbh is that there are legitimate criticisms you could make against Trump.

His ignorance when it comes to the Internet
How all his cabinet appointees have a lot of ties to Wall Street (a certain amount is expected, and not even in a swamp way, but more than I'm comfortable with)
His desire for the minority vote that makes white Americans feel left out

There used to be more, but they've been resolved tbh.

But the media is panicking and freaking out about two scoops or the sharpie or the TIME HE WENT AND HAD A SIP OF WATER IN THE MIDDLE OF A SPEECH, and of course the Wall Street stuff ic never going to be called out.
 
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spiritofamermaid said:
What pisses me the most tbh is that there are legitimate criticisms you could make against Trump.

His ignorance when it comes to the Internet
How all his cabinet appointees have a lot of ties to Wall Street (a certain amount is expected, and not even in a swamp way, but more than I'm comfortable with)
His desire for the minority vote that makes white Americans feel left out

There used to be more, but they've been resolved tbh.

But the media is panicking and freaking out about two scoops or the sharpie or the TIME HE WENT AND HAD A SIP OF WATER IN THE MIDDLE OF A SPEECH, and of course the Wall Street stuff ic never going to be called out.
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I don't know how the media can criticize Trump for the minority vote when their preferred party is balls deep into that idpol shit and would have to acknowledge something that might unite Americans. And if Trump tried to overtly pander to white America, he probably lose a lot of votes from White American moderates cucked by the corporate press. And the man himself is a New York liberal who grew up in the most diverse and leftist city in America.

Criticizing Trump for Wall Street will bring up a lot of uncomfortable shit about King Nigger and his cabinet. As well as how the Democrats have turned more into Republicans than the GOP itself is. They have abandoned everything FDR stood for when Bill Clinton won. NAFTA, bailouts for corporate America with no punishments, failure of single payer healthcare, repealing Glass Steagall, Drone warfare, increased immigration of shit like illegals, refugees and H1Bs, destruction of America's civic culture and unions happened and accelerated under Democrats.

King Nigger is much smarter than Trump over how to use a smartphone or the internet. And also tried to fuck it up hard back then with the internet kill switch, SOPA, PIPA, suicide of Aaron Schwartz, the Arab Spring to overthrow governments and allowing Silicon Valley to turn into a giant monopoly. Not that the section 230 stuff is any less important but there is Trump, who is dumb, and there is Obama, an evil genius.

Media doesn't walk to talk about real stuff because it will lead to discussions of many topics that could lead to changes that the elite don't want.
 
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heyitsmike said:
And yet, he's done more conserving than the Republicans who came before him the last thirty years.

And one thing I've noticed about literally every liberal that gets introduced to conservative thought, is that they eventually begin to understand and ultimately accept it. Like gun control. I guarantee that if you brought a bump stock ban to Trump today he wouldn't sign it this time after seeing all the conservative arguments against gun control come true right before our very eyes.
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I bring this up again and again, but in his Crippled America book Trump is strongly for the 2nd amendment, and not just for hunters or sport like a lot of yanks. Personally, while I'm sure he didn't know what a bump stock ban really meant, it being right after the LV shooting makes me think the following (adjusts tinfoil):

1. Just like Lanza, right before it gun control wasn't really a thing that many were worried about. So a glowie used an MKUltra dude to shoot them, to get everyone afraid of guns again.
2. This is pre-2018 Trump, where he was barely treading water with all the swamp trying to pull him down and under the Muller investigation. So he had no political capital.

So in conclusion, I think he did what he viewed as the least damaging, in a time where everyone was shouting "do SOMETHING!". It wasn't a smart choice I'll admit, but I don't hold it against Trump as there were no good options.
 
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spiritofamermaid said:
I bring this up again and again, but in his Crippled America book Trump is strongly for the 2nd amendment, and not just for hunters or sport like a lot of yanks. Personally, while I'm sure he didn't know what a bump stock ban really meant, it being right after the LV shooting makes me think the following (adjusts tinfoil):

1. Just like Lanza, right before it gun control wasn't really a thing that many were worried about. So a glowie used an MKUltra dude to shoot them, to get everyone afraid of guns again.
2. This is pre-2018 Trump, where he was barely treading water with all the swamp trying to pull him down and under the Muller investigation. So he had no political capital.

So in conclusion, I think he did what he viewed as the least damaging, in a time where everyone was shouting "do SOMETHING!". It wasn't a smart choice I'll admit, but I don't hold it against Trump as there were no good options.
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I definitely wasn't pleased about the bump stock ban either, and all of the pro-gun bills (CCW reciprocity and taking suppressors off the NFA for one) seem to have fizzled out for now. For guns and Trump you should really be looking to his court appointments anyway, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and potentially ACB are still largely unknowns for now but his lower court appointees have already borne fruit. Kamala's here whining that he hasn't appointed any black judges while a roof Korean appointed by him helped strike down a magazine capacity ban in her own state.
 
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DeadFish said:
I also feel trump wont win 2020 election due to health problems
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I think your feeling is probably wrong here. If anyone would be disqualified for health reasons, it would be Biden, not Trump. Trump is doing incredibly well for someone who just had a brush with the sideways-vagina virus.
 
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New Minnesota polling, Trump has gained 2% since last month and 10% are allegedly still “undecided”. The internals are bizarre with over 60% polled being from the Twin Cities but the party split is 36% GOP vs 35% Dem.
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These idiots genuinely think they can just declare changes to the debates that benefit (save) Biden and Trump will just let them do it.
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Trump should just set up his own town hall style debate with himself (like he did before) and declare it the "real" second debate that Biden is welcome to join. Watch the media freak out.
 
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Tathagata said:
Trump should just set up his own town hall style debate with himself (like he did before) and declare it the "real" second debate that Biden is welcome to join. Watch the media freak out.
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If Biden's Team wants a "Virtual" debate so bad, Trump should give it to them.

By having Trump debate a "virtual" Biden made up of clips, like those old Weird Al faux interview things on MTV (dear god I'm old). Basically, a shitpost.
 
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deeplyhigh said:
New Minnesota polling, Trump has gained 2% since last month and 10% are allegedly still “undecided”. The internals are bizarre with over 60% polled being from the Twin Cities but the party split is 36% GOP vs 35% Dem.
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It's also a poll of "adults" which is a waste of time. I don't trust their "likely" screen either. Of the adults who participated, 75% are "likely" voters? Bullshit.
 
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HTTP Error 404 said:
NOTHING would amuse the left more than setting up a repeat of 2016, only this time "America gets it right" and votes Biden in. Or worse, an opposite and them getting to see the right go through the meltdown they got to go through in November 2016.

Polls are clearly bullshit but Trump and his supporters should be campaigning like they're 20 points down at all times.

Remember, the only reason Trump won is they didn't realize they needed to cheat to beat him. This time they do, and will.
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I agree with this. The thing is, Trump's supporters and the campaign are aggressively campaigning because they are actually fired up about their candidate.
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Might be his likely voter, but I am looking for the rest of the interview to see what he says and post chunks of it here.

Unironically, if Trump takes Michigan, its over. It has so much implications for every other Rust Belt state that it would be most likely the kiss of death for the Biden campaign.



Pennsylvania is the biggest prize and with it, Trump most likely wins NC and FL and is at 260. It also is going through the realignment, which I keep saying, but it is important because it means the Republicans are gearing to vote and the Dems are complacent.
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Dems fear the WWC.
 
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New Minnesota polling, Trump has gained 2% since last month and 10% are allegedly still “undecided”. The internals are bizarre with over 60% polled being from the Twin Cities but the party split is 36% GOP vs 35% Dem.
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That poll makes no sense. If there are more Republicans thans Democrats voting, why is Biden leading 7%?

Also, can anyone confirm whenever or not 62% of the population is in the Twin Cities? Unless that's including the suburbs, then I don't buy it at all that the Twin Cities would be able to so easily overwhelm the Republicans in the rest of the state. I've heard it's more like 30-40%

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NBC nuked the early vote bar graphs by state that had Trump tied in WI, MI, AZ, and others. Gee, I wonder why?
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Probably got worried that their soyboys were getting blackpilled when the results weren't going in their favor by a massive margin.
 
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