2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Meat Target]

https://www.redstate.com/diary/paladinlosthour/2020/10/08/stop-calling-us-shy-trump-voters.-were-decepticons

There’s a great deal of speculation swirling about what the media has labeled “shy Trump voters”, and their potential impact on the election.

Unfortunately, conservative websites have adopted this same problem terminology (as example see T.LaDuke’s otherwise excellent piece).

Why problematic? Because ‘shy’ implies hesitancy to perform an action, based on an incorrect assessment of the possible harm. When you’re a 15 year old boy, orbiting the prettiest girl at the dance, with cold sweat fear cementing your tongue to the roof of your mouth: That’s shy. Your actions won’t literally result in earth swallowing you whole, (though it sure felt that way) when you finally squeak out, “Hi Teresa!”, and you’re friend-zoned before the next sentence.

The stakes are much higher for the badly labeled ‘shy Trump voter’. Like millions of others, I work in an industry where open support for Donald Trump would halt my career progress, with all the subtlety of an airbag deploying during a head-on collision. In my particular firm, HR operates as an SJW free-range preserve, and senior management bleed Democrat blue. My involuntary departure would be inevitable. One quiet MAGA, and my every decision would be reviewed as ‘Trump supporter = impaired judgement’. No work ethic could withstand that lens. And I like my job. It pays well, and its fulfilling work, otherwise.

So, I ain’t “shy”. Stop calling me that. I’m a deliberately Deceptive Conservative. I avoid no-win, at work political discussions, but if pressed, I invariably say ‘Well, Biden is the only choice.” The quiet part I simply add on in my head “…if you want the United States destroyed by a senescent grifter and Willie Brown’s sidepiece“. I’ve answered two telephone polls already this year (one was the Quinnnipac), with that same pro-Biden message. (Pro tip: Anyone who tells you your answers are anonymous, but who has your phone number, is lying to you.)

Living this duplicity is deeply angering. I’m angry and get more so every day, with every additional forced utterance. But I do keep coming back to one basic truth – if someone is looking to kill you, don’t hand him or her a loaded gun.

So, that’s life as a DeceptiCon. One thing I can promise you all – the millions in this particular prison are all coming out on November 3rd. We will have our pound of flesh in the voting booth as partial recompense, for the enforced silence over the past two years. And God willing, the American polling industry, and Joe Biden’s hope eternal, may never recover.

 

[Honest Coyote]

I still can't believe the Dems are expecting a huge 18-21 turnout for them. This might be the lowest 18-21 turnout in decades.

As great as this sounds, can you elaborate on what you're going on?

Because on my end, I've seen nothing but sheer desperation to recruit the young dumb kids to their side. To the point it's become a huge campaign of "VOTE TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY". Very reminiscent of 2008's Black Jesus with "HOPE, AND IT'S TIME FOR CHANGE"

I was worried that people were actually falling for it like then.

The youth hate the lockdowns, and only the unfuckable losers still buy the killing grandma angle. They are also a very different group than Obama's youth surge in 2008: the main concerns that helped Obama were the economic freefall due to Wall Street scheming and McCain basically calling for the entire middle east to become Vietnam 2.0. Today the economy is disrupted due to lockdowns (which runs counter to the corona doomsayers) and there's no threat of a draft. Obama was also a trendy candidate; Biden's lack of enthusiasm will hit harder the younger you go. All these are issues with just Biden. They don't take into account larger cultural trends, which are partially a counter to millenial culture, such as a greater resentment of university overreach and expense, and millennial hyper-politization. That's before you get into the asinine sanctimony of the left policing what you can say and pushing 5,000 word screeds on wrongthink, which only keeps escalating.

The Democrats have only a narrow range they can hit with the youth:

Far left is out, Dems screwed Bernie and offer nothing at best.

Moderate left is winnable, but getting them to show will be a major challenge.

Center is winnable, but they are the quintessential "just wanna grill" ("just wanna party"?).

Moderate right is unwinnable, Trump's not the devil and Biden is a uncharismatic black hole.

Far right was never winnable.

It's the flipside of using celebrity culture: you may get a higher turnout, but astroturfing an Amy Schumer means everyone hates your movie before it's even out.

 

[heyitsmike]

https://www.redstate.com/diary/paladinlosthour/2020/10/08/stop-calling-us-shy-trump-voters.-were-decepticons

There’s a great deal of speculation swirling about what the media has labeled “shy Trump voters”, and their potential impact on the election.

Unfortunately, conservative websites have adopted this same problem terminology (as example see T.LaDuke’s otherwise excellent piece).

Why problematic? Because ‘shy’ implies hesitancy to perform an action, based on an incorrect assessment of the possible harm. When you’re a 15 year old boy, orbiting the prettiest girl at the dance, with cold sweat fear cementing your tongue to the roof of your mouth: That’s shy. Your actions won’t literally result in earth swallowing you whole, (though it sure felt that way) when you finally squeak out, “Hi Teresa!”, and you’re friend-zoned before the next sentence.

The stakes are much higher for the badly labeled ‘shy Trump voter’. Like millions of others, I work in an industry where open support for Donald Trump would halt my career progress, with all the subtlety of an airbag deploying during a head-on collision. In my particular firm, HR operates as an SJW free-range preserve, and senior management bleed Democrat blue. My involuntary departure would be inevitable. One quiet MAGA, and my every decision would be reviewed as ‘Trump supporter = impaired judgement’. No work ethic could withstand that lens. And I like my job. It pays well, and its fulfilling work, otherwise.

So, I ain’t “shy”. Stop calling me that. I’m a deliberately Deceptive Conservative. I avoid no-win, at work political discussions, but if pressed, I invariably say ‘Well, Biden is the only choice.” The quiet part I simply add on in my head “…if you want the United States destroyed by a senescent grifter and Willie Brown’s sidepiece“. I’ve answered two telephone polls already this year (one was the Quinnnipac), with that same pro-Biden message. (Pro tip: Anyone who tells you your answers are anonymous, but who has your phone number, is lying to you.)

Living this duplicity is deeply angering. I’m angry and get more so every day, with every additional forced utterance. But I do keep coming back to one basic truth – if someone is looking to kill you, don’t hand him or her a loaded gun.

So, that’s life as a DeceptiCon. One thing I can promise you all – the millions in this particular prison are all coming out on November 3rd. We will have our pound of flesh in the voting booth as partial recompense, for the enforced silence over the past two years. And God willing, the American polling industry, and Joe Biden’s hope eternal, may never recover.

Nor are we "despondent" like Nate Pewter somehow believes.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Nor are we "despondent" like Nate Pewter somehow believes.
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I just don't want my stuff destroyed, Nate Lapis.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

My biggest regret of the past year is letting anyone I know IRL know that I wasn't buying into the DNC bullshit. It's ruined several friendhsips.

 

[RockPaper]

Telling an obvious polling call "Fuck you, I'm not answering" isn't despondency, you low-rent clown. It's the opposite.

He's dangerously stupid.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Nor are we "despondent" like Nate Pewter somehow believes.
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I can only feel bad for Nate Uranium because imagine losing all your credibility in one election cycle and trying to desperately reclaim it, to then get angry finding out people have been lying to pollsters about their voter affiliation.

 

[Shield Breaker]

How? By feeding Joe lines, or cutting Trump's mic, or wifi?

He uses a teleprompter for TV interviews, but lies and says he doesn't. There's no way anyone with half-a-brain would believe they wouldn't pull the same thing here.

Trump is going to host Rush Limbaugh’s show tomorrow for a radio rally.

that’s pretty impressive to do, three hours with questions as well. I’d like Psychicpebbles to call in with his Trump impression for this new meme magic.

Orange man unfiltered for two hours. It will be a disaster.

 

[heyitsmike]

It's ruined several friendhsips.

No, it's revealed they weren't really your friends.

Better you find out now and not later.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

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Joe Biden backed out of the debate too.

So now the campaigns can just have their followers say 'no u' at each other when the opposite tries to criticize them for bailing; Looks like this might be it for debates then. One debate where centrists just threw up their hands and called it a shitshow and another debate where a literal fly is the only thing from calling it a decisive Pence victory.

Overall no real influence on the election besides putting people more on edge in general.

 

[Tour of Italy]

Nor are we "despondent" like Nate Pewter somehow believes.
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Nate continues to somehow miss the fact that many respondents hate pollsters in general and him in particular, despite people telling him constantly.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

There’s a great deal of speculation swirling about what the media has labeled “shy Trump voters”, and their potential impact on the election.

Unfortunately, conservative websites have adopted this same problem terminology (as example see T.LaDuke’s otherwise excellent piece).

Why problematic? Because ‘shy’ implies hesitancy to perform an action, based on an incorrect assessment of the possible harm. When you’re a 15 year old boy, orbiting the prettiest girl at the dance, with cold sweat fear cementing your tongue to the roof of your mouth: That’s shy. Your actions won’t literally result in earth swallowing you whole, (though it sure felt that way) when you finally squeak out, “Hi Teresa!”, and you’re friend-zoned before the next sentence.

The stakes are much higher for the badly labeled ‘shy Trump voter’. Like millions of others, I work in an industry where open support for Donald Trump would halt my career progress, with all the subtlety of an airbag deploying during a head-on collision. In my particular firm, HR operates as an SJW free-range preserve, and senior management bleed Democrat blue. My involuntary departure would be inevitable. One quiet MAGA, and my every decision would be reviewed as ‘Trump supporter = impaired judgement’. No work ethic could withstand that lens. And I like my job. It pays well, and its fulfilling work, otherwise.

So, I ain’t “shy”. Stop calling me that. I’m a deliberately Deceptive Conservative. I avoid no-win, at work political discussions, but if pressed, I invariably say ‘Well, Biden is the only choice.” The quiet part I simply add on in my head “…if you want the United States destroyed by a senescent grifter and Willie Brown’s sidepiece“. I’ve answered two telephone polls already this year (one was the Quinnnipac), with that same pro-Biden message. (Pro tip: Anyone who tells you your answers are anonymous, but who has your phone number, is lying to you.)

I see where you're coming from, but I think you're overthinking the terminology: it's a riff on "shy Tories," the group over in Britbongistan who never shows up in the polls but turns out anyway, which is why the Tories consistently exceed their polling. There, as here, it's a situation roughly equivalent to the old P.J. O'Rourke line: "I made the mistake of believing a public opinion poll in a country where it's illegal to hold certain opinions."

 

[UselessIdiot]

Nor are we "despondent" like Nate Pewter somehow believes.
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The right is full of older voters who vote no matter what. The left is full of voters who have to be prodded heavily into voting and have to be "inspired" to vote.

There's a group who's less likely to turn out, but not the one he thinks.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

I think the only thing certain is that whoever wins the aftermath is going to be an absolute shitshow.

 

[GuntPunt]

Some info for today.

Wisconsin victory! No ballot counting extensions beyond the election day. Get fucked.

Florida registered voters came out. FL has a 141k Dem advantage.

Interesting view about how big the shift is in Penn with WWC.

 

[babadook]

Drumpfler being probably the most pro-Israel/Jew president in recent history might have been a factor.

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[StarkRavingMad]

Nor are we "despondent" like Nate Pewter somehow believes.
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This has "cope" written all over it. It's too early to be in the bargaining stages of grief, if you ask me.

I'm a Trump supporter who is still in the closet, and will crawl over broken glass to vote for him in person once the polls open. I refuse to respond to a pollster, and if I'm somehow in a situation where I have to respond, then I will lie through my teeth-- happily. Many Trump supporters are like this, especially the younger ones (like myself) in a sea of millennial and zoomer SJWs/Marxists.

 

[jje100010001]

The right is full of older voters who vote no matter what. The left is full of voters who have to be prodded heavily into voting and have to be "inspired" to vote.

There's a group who's less likely to turn out, but not the one he thinks.

One side effect that people don’t talk enough about is the effect of campus shutdowns on student voter demographics.

Anyone have any data?

 

[legalkochi]

I did my part today. I voted early and in-person at my local county's registrar of voters office. Voted straight red down the ticket and voted against most of the propositions on the ballot (I still can't believe they tried to put a proposition that allows affirmative action policies.)

It was a slightly confusing process (had to sign in, surrender my mail-in ballot, and they sent me to a room that contained a good amount of ballot-marking devices after giving me a smart card).

I know Trump will probably not win the state of California, but it felt good and there were a good amount of local offices on the ballot where I could have my say. Also I wanted to be a part of giving Trump the popular vote victory in case it happens.

 

[The Pink Panther]

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Joe Biden backed out of the debate too.

I actually thought you guys were fucking joking when you guys were saying Joe might back out of a debate. But not only did Joe did, Trump did too (although Trump technically backed out of it being virtual on the condition that it would be in-person).