2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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🙄🙄:heart-full:This has "cope" written all over it. It's too early to be in the bargaining stages of grief, if you ask me.

I'm a Trump supporter who is still in the closet, and will crawl over broken glass to vote for him in person once the polls open. I refuse to respond to a pollster, and if I'm somehow in a situation where I have to respond, then I will lie through my teeth-- happily. Many Trump supporters are like this, especially the younger ones (like myself) in a sea of millennial and zoomer SJWs/Marxists.

I'm not a big fan of the man, but I will vote for him come election day. However, no one except my husband and BFF know this because I don't want to go through shit and be called an Aunt Jane. There's no way I would tell a rando this.

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I'm not a big fan of the man, but I will vote for him come election day. However, no one except my husband and BFF know this because I don't want to go through shit and be called an Aunt Jane. There's no way I would tell a rando this.

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I think I'm kind of the same way, I live in a deep blue state with most of my friends on Facebook have gone full TDS since 2016. I voted third party last time, but this time, I think I'll vote for Trump. I was surprised by his work in foreign policy, but mostly, I'll vote for him because if he loses, we'll never hear the end of it. I think a Harris/Biden administration would embolden SJWs and make life even more miserable for normal people.
 
I think I'm kind of the same way, I live in a deep blue state with most of my friends on Facebook have gone full TDS since 2016. I voted third party last time, but this time, I think I'll vote for Trump. I was surprised by his work in foreign policy, but mostly, I'll vote for him because if he loses, we'll never hear the end of it. I think a Harris/Biden administration would embolden SJWs and make life even more miserable for normal people.
I didn't vote last time as I lived in a very blue state and my own vote I didn't think would matter much, but I am going to vote this election because I want Trump to win even if I know he has a 50% chance because I don't want those brats to think their whining is going to be rewarded and try to pull this shit again.
 
I don't know. Has the "conservatives/Republicans are dying off" really ever come into fruition? Much to the left's chagrin. I don't see how many zoomers are going to be motivated to vote for Biden/Harris either, since young voters need to feel "inspired" to vote.

Also: The Democratic Party thought that they were untouchable and had permanent executive power after winning with Obama twice. Things can change very quickly; they're not as strong or appealing as they think they are.
Every decade the definition of "conservative" changes to suit the views of the present elderly.


There’s a great deal of speculation swirling about what the media has labeled “shy Trump voters”, and their potential impact on the election.

Unfortunately, conservative websites have adopted this same problem terminology (as example see T.LaDuke’s otherwise excellent piece).

Why problematic? Because ‘shy’ implies hesitancy to perform an action, based on an incorrect assessment of the possible harm. When you’re a 15 year old boy, orbiting the prettiest girl at the dance, with cold sweat fear cementing your tongue to the roof of your mouth: That’s shy. Your actions won’t literally result in earth swallowing you whole, (though it sure felt that way) when you finally squeak out, “Hi Teresa!”, and you’re friend-zoned before the next sentence.

The stakes are much higher for the badly labeled ‘shy Trump voter’. Like millions of others, I work in an industry where open support for Donald Trump would halt my career progress, with all the subtlety of an airbag deploying during a head-on collision. In my particular firm, HR operates as an SJW free-range preserve, and senior management bleed Democrat blue. My involuntary departure would be inevitable. One quiet MAGA, and my every decision would be reviewed as ‘Trump supporter = impaired judgement’. No work ethic could withstand that lens. And I like my job. It pays well, and its fulfilling work, otherwise.

So, I ain’t “shy”. Stop calling me that. I’m a deliberately Deceptive Conservative. I avoid no-win, at work political discussions, but if pressed, I invariably say ‘Well, Biden is the only choice.” The quiet part I simply add on in my head “…if you want the United States destroyed by a senescent grifter and Willie Brown’s sidepiece“. I’ve answered two telephone polls already this year (one was the Quinnnipac), with that same pro-Biden message. (Pro tip: Anyone who tells you your answers are anonymous, but who has your phone number, is lying to you.)

Living this duplicity is deeply angering. I’m angry and get more so every day, with every additional forced utterance. But I do keep coming back to one basic truth – if someone is looking to kill you, don’t hand him or her a loaded gun.

So, that’s life as a DeceptiCon. One thing I can promise you all – the millions in this particular prison are all coming out on November 3rd. We will have our pound of flesh in the voting booth as partial recompense, for the enforced silence over the past two years. And God willing, the American polling industry, and Joe Biden’s hope eternal, may never recover.
Wait, does the author mean his work taps his phone calls for wrongthink, or the pollster will call his work and say "<Author> is a MAGAt, do with that information what you will"?

Edit: I'm an idiot, I didn't see that this was an article quote.
 
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Wait, you mean your work taps your phone calls for wrongthink, or the pollster will call your work and say "Meat Target is a MAGAt, do with that information what you will"?
I didn't write that article. But my boss sees eye-to-eye with me politically, so I'm good for now.
 
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"Ohio and Iowa are still swing states guize! Arizona is more blue than Florida too!"

People are going to be suprised come Nov 3.
I'd argue Florida is redder than Arizona at this point. Trump is benefiting from an increase black and especially Hispanics, but it disproportionately helps him in Florida where there is a large percentage of Cubans and Venezuelans, who are voting right in comparison to other Hispanic groups. Venezuelans might very well be Trump's best group in Florida. While it's nice to see Maricopa County trending red, the rest of the state has been trending blue. We might be surprised in Florida with a 2-3% Trump victory but Trump likely won't carry Arizona by more than 2% unless Mexican-Americans are also trending right to similar extent.

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Wisconsin victory! No ballot counting extensions beyond the election day. Get fucked.
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Interesting view about how big the shift is in Penn with WWC.
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Wisconsin Article,
Link 1 / Archive

This is why I keep saying Wisconsin is not as unlikely to stay a Trump state as some may think, even apparently Baris. That's not to say it will happen but any states that requires counting the ballot on Election Day is bound to help Trump just on the basis of reducing fraud.

Pennsylvania voter registration shift
Link 2 / Archive (May 18, 2020)
Link 3 / Archive (July 29, 2020)
Link 4 / Archive (August 31, 2020)
Link 5 / Archive (October 5, 2020)

Spreadsheet dating back to 2015 for those who want it.

Fun fact: Johnstown was the city where the worst flood in the United States happened. Over 2000 people died in 1889.

That morbidness aside, every day makes it clearer Trump voters have a lot more on the line than your average Biden voter (outside maybe the elites and their propaganda arms). The average Biden voter just wants to get the bad orange man out of office. The worst that happens in the event of a Biden loss is that they throw a holy hell tantrum, calm down, and then get on with their lives like last time. Trump voters on the other hand have a lot to lose. They voted for Trump because for decades, their jobs were shipped to China and people were moving away from their towns. Now his administration has given them hope that their career still has a future given how manufacturing has been returning to this country. Their livelihood is at stake and many Trump voters can't afford to spend years acquiring a white collar career if Harris ships their jobs back to China, India, Mexico, etc. Survival of towns like Johnstown and those in the Iron Range may literally depend on a Trump victory. It goes without saying who is more enthusiastic.

Also, it's worth noting that not only has the registration gap been closing, but that it is accelerating. In May 2020, Democrats had a D+803,427 advantage. Then in July, we saw that reduced to D+783,116, the margin closing by 20,311 votes. Within a month, the Democrats had a D+758,854 advantage, the margin closing by 24,262. Now we have a new report that as of October 5th, Democrats' advantage have reduced to D+717,386. Republicans closed the margin by 41,468, nearly twice of that of the previous update. That's amazing news for Republicans, especially since they will need all the vote they can get in what will likely be the state that decides the election.

Of course we also have to remember that in October, Trump had to reveal he had COVID-19 and he also shot down the poisonous stimulus bill. I know that right-wing electoral pollsters are ready to spin how much Republicans are winning voters in Pennsylvania with this argument, but registration does not close until the 19th. My point is, if either Trump catching COVID-19 or shooting down the Pelosi stimulus bill proposal reverse registration trends, Florida's results won't reflect it since voter registration is already closed. Pennsylvania will provide a more accurate look on whenever or not voter registration stays favoring Republicans or not.

If Democrats increase their margin from October 5th, then Biden has a good shot of flipping Pennsylvania. If Republicans keeps closing the margin though, then it is Trump's to lose and Biden has to rely on either voter fraud and/or a shockingly energetic turnout that we have seen no evidence of to flip it, which I'm not sure if he can do.
 
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Biden can win but saying he’ll bring a 2008 level turnout is delusional
Just seeing 3 onward tells me that Trump loses every swing state. "Unbiased" my ass.

1. Obvious. California still exists from what I hear.
2. Also obvious.
3-5. Essentially all mean the same thing, that Biden will bring together the Obama coalition and win by 5+ points!

I'm just not buying it. This is NOT 2008 anymore. 2008 was the perfect storm for Democrats: the economy took the biggest shit since the Depression, the Iraq War became Veitnam tier popular, McCain picked one of the worst running mates and everyone was shitting themselves on the left if he won because Palin would be President (in hindsight, lol), and the first black nominee was an eloquent and decent speaker who pedalled snake oil HOPE AND CHANGE and ran away with it.

Obama's 08 coalition was geared toward the anger pushed by the Republicans for letting Bush Jr being the biggest fuckup in modern history. It was so bad that Dubya had an approval in the MID 20s by the 08 election! Even his own party hated him. And black people who wanted to see the first black president. Only the hardcore Republicans wanted McCain and they lost so bad the Democrats took fucking Indiana in 08 because of it.

In 2012, with no Bush to blame, Obama's coalition collapsed into just blacks and people who vote (D), with some holdover from 2008. It was so bad that black turnout percentages were higher than white turnout for the only time ever recorded.

This is not 2008. Obama's coalition fractured into Bernie Bro socialists who hecking love science and saving the world from microagressions and moderates who want power. The white working class has been left in the shitter for Trump to scoop up, pun intended. Biden, who was chosen because he was "Obama's white friend" to bring the blacks back to record turnout to Obama levels cannot do it. He has to run ads in the South to remind people Trump used the virus to "disproportionately genocide black people." Black people do not care unless the frontman on the ticket is black. So he picked Kamala as VP, who noone actually likes. Then he defends BLM burning down MN, WI and other states until the polls said stop, he supports and denies the Green New Deal and fracking in the same sentence, leaving BernieBros and WWC out in the gutter, and he has the speaking ability of a dying centennial who can't drum up a crowd of over 100 to save his life. Obama 08 had an insane ground game, Biden doesn't. Republicans are outregistering across every important swing state, a mirror image of 08. In 08, Philidelphia was the largest changes in PA'a voter registration towards Dems. Now, Philly registration is down and everywhere else is trending hard R in the state. An 18-30 year old Dem is the least enthusiastic voter this cycle and least likely to vote. Trump is in the mid 40s of approval and has the highest Republican in party approval in history.

I can go on and on. Biden is not getting Obama turnout, even though Nate Dirt and Cohn and every media pollster is screaming it. It just isn't happening.
 
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The thing with Generation Z is that there is a very stark divide between the Early Zoomers born in the very late 90's and the Core Zoomers born in the 2000's who are just now going to vote.

The former tends to skew very woke leftist same as the Late Millennials while the latter tends to be more of a centrist liberal or even conservative bent as a whole. The typical Core Zoomer is more left-leaning than the typical Boomer but more right-leaning than the typical Millennial (especially Late Millennials) and are a lot more like Generation X in how they're going to trend.

But the Corona lockdowns and the BLM coup have thrown a monkey wrench into a lot of these predictions and it could very well cause a rightward shift. A lot of Core Zoomer boys are going to get "red pilled" by the 2020 shitshow and a lot of Core Zoomer girls will get "purple pilled" as well.

The question is will they vote for Trump as a protest vote or will they give up and stay home en masse?



The problem with why the Left was able to win the culture war was mainly because of the Right had spent most of the previous culture war in a similar position of moral authoritarianism except it was Christian traditionalist as opposed to Identity Politics/Anarcho-Communist.

Most of the "I just want to grill" centrist types gravitated leftward for decades because the traditionalists are bugfuck insane and the Left seemed a lot more reasonable than the hardliner moral conservatives.

Now the tables have turned and it's the Woke Left who are the moral zealots while the Religious Right are at best impotent and in severe decline or outright dead and irrelevant at worst.
Were they really so insane? Their argument was basically that if we don't listen to them our culture will end up where it is now. Can't exactly say they were wrong in retrospect...

If anything they should have been far more ruthless when they were in power and we might have been spared this collapse into degeneracy. A lot more damage will be done in the climb out than would have been required to prevent the descent in the first place.
 
I actually saw a Jorgensen sign just recently which surprised me.
Maybe he lived there
Possible? Sure. Likely? Nope-- especially since the media and the Trump Admin have made a direct association with those slogans, and when so many law enforcement departments have formally endorsed Trump for re-election.

One of my neighbors has a Blue Lives Matter flag, a Semper Fi flag, and a Gasden flag on his car. I mean, I guess it's possible for him to be a Biden supporter ... But I'll wager a bet that he's probably a Trump supporter. lol.
Youd be surprised how many people on the far right are voting biden. Look at spenser, TDS, etc. Because trump is jewed they would rather let the black woman with a track record of imprisoning people on bullshit in power.
So it looks like he'll do virtual rallies until he gets back on his feet.

Could he get back to in-person rallies in states like Arizona, Florida, Pennsylvania, and Minnesota?
It would be better/stupider to do the same morning shows comedians do imagine him showing up on The bonfire and doing dated wrestler impressions with Dan and Jay
 
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Is there anything to suggest a 2008-level turnout? Like at all? Someone posted here that Democrats were already severely underperforming in VBM in North Carolina.

By the lack of enthusiasm on Biden's side, how does it come close to reaching 2008 levels?
 
Trump hate. It's like antimatter: very powerful, but nobody quite knows exactly how much of it is out there.
I mean there's was plenty in 2016 and people were fear-mongering about, "Don't let him get near the nuclear codes! OMG!".

Plus, Hillary had a much better run campaign, where it was more than just "I'm not Trump", even if it still was centered around that by a large amount. Biden is entirely "Even though my policies suck -- I'm not Trump!". Nobody's ever won by doing that. My sister voted for Obama and Hillary and said she's not voting this year. I know, just an anecdote, but I don't think Biden can just rely on not being Trump.
 
I'd argue Florida is redder than Arizona at this point. Trump is benefiting from an increase black and especially Hispanics, but it disproportionately helps him in Florida where there is a large percentage of Cubans and Venezuelans, who are voting right in comparison to other Hispanic groups. Venezuelans might very well be Trump's best group in Florida. While it's nice to see Maricopa County trending red, the rest of the state has been trending blue. We might be surprised in Florida with a 2-3% Trump victory but Trump likely won't carry Arizona by more than 2% unless Mexican-Americans are also trending right to similar extent.


Wisconsin Article,
Link 1 / Archive

This is why I keep saying Wisconsin is not as unlikely to stay a Trump state as some may think, even apparently Baris. That's not to say it will happen but any states that requires counting the ballot on Election Day is bound to help Trump just on the basis of reducing fraud.

Pennsylvania voter registration shift
Link 2 / Archive (May 18, 2020)
Link 3 / Archive (July 29, 2020)
Link 4 / Archive (August 31, 2020)
Link 5 / Archive (October 5, 2020)

Spreadsheet dating back to 2015 for those who want it.

Fun fact: Johnstown was the city where the worst flood in the United States happened. Over 2000 people died in 1889.

That morbidness aside, every day makes it clearer Trump voters have a lot more on the line than your average Biden voter (outside maybe the elites and their propaganda arms). The average Biden voter just wants to get the bad orange man out of office. The worst that happens in the event of a Biden loss is that they throw a holy hell tantrum, calm down, and then get on with their lives like last time. Trump voters on the other hand have a lot to lose. They voted for Trump because for decades, their jobs were shipped to China and people were moving away from their towns. Now his administration has given them hope that their career still has a future given how manufacturing has been returning to this country. Their livelihood is at stake and many Trump voters can't afford to spend years acquiring a white collar career if Harris ships their jobs back to China, India, Mexico, etc. Survival of towns like Johnstown and those in the Iron Range may literally depend on a Trump victory. It goes without saying who is more enthusiastic.

Also, it's worth noting that not only has the registration gap been closing, but that it is accelerating. In May 2020, Democrats had a D+803,427 advantage. Then in July, we saw that reduced to D+783,116, the margin closing by 20,311 votes. Within a month, the Democrats had a D+758,854 advantage, the margin closing by 24,262. Now we have a new report that as of October 5th, Democrats' advantage have reduced to D+717,386. Republicans closed the margin by 41,468, nearly twice of that of the previous update. That's amazing news for Republicans, especially since they will need all the vote they can get in what will likely be the state that decides the election.

Of course we also have to remember that in October, Trump had to reveal he had COVID-19 and he also shot down the poisonous stimulus bill. I know that right-wing electoral pollsters are ready to spin how much Republicans are winning voters in Pennsylvania with this argument, but registration does not close until the 19th. My point is, if either Trump catching COVID-19 or shooting down the Pelosi stimulus bill proposal reverse registration trends, Florida's results won't reflect it since voter registration is already closed. Pennsylvania will provide a more accurate look on whenever or not voter registration stays favoring Republicans or not.

If Democrats increase their margin from October 5th, then Biden has a good shot of flipping Pennsylvania. If Republicans keeps closing the margin though, then it is Trump's to lose and Biden has to rely on either voter fraud and/or a shockingly energetic turnout that we have seen no evidence of to flip it, which I'm not sure if he can do.
Mexicans don't like niggers and it's niggers they come into contact with most of the time, not professional/hard working blacks. The Democratic party is catering to niggers and their enablers with the reparations and diversity pandering exclusively and throwing everyone else under the bus. Mexicans aren't stupid. Annoying at times yes but not stupid. Don't underestimate their ability to reeeeeee over things like the birthday party being trashed by niggers.

I also think these polls claiming Biden has a significant lead over Trump is just groundwork for the massive mail in voter fraud the Democrats have been planning from the start.
 
Mexicans don't like niggers and it's niggers they come into contact with most of the time, not professional/hard working blacks. The Democratic party is catering to niggers and their enablers with the reparations and diversity pandering exclusively and throwing everyone else under the bus. Mexicans aren't stupid. Annoying at times yes but not stupid. Don't underestimate their ability to reeeeeee over things like the birthday party being trashed by niggers.

I also think these polls claiming Biden has a significant lead over Trump is just groundwork for the massive mail in voter fraud the Democrats have been planning from the start.
Or it could also be used as "evidence" there was fraud, like in the 2016 election. "SCIENCE predicted his/her turn, so obviously the only reason it didn't happen is because of cheating!"
 
I'd argue Florida is redder than Arizona at this point. Trump is benefiting from an increase black and especially Hispanics, but it disproportionately helps him in Florida where there is a large percentage of Cubans and Venezuelans, who are voting right in comparison to other Hispanic groups. Venezuelans might very well be Trump's best group in Florida. While it's nice to see Maricopa County trending red, the rest of the state has been trending blue. We might be surprised in Florida with a 2-3% Trump victory but Trump likely won't carry Arizona by more than 2% unless Mexican-Americans are also trending right to similar extent.


Wisconsin Article,
Link 1 / Archive

This is why I keep saying Wisconsin is not as unlikely to stay a Trump state as some may think, even apparently Baris. That's not to say it will happen but any states that requires counting the ballot on Election Day is bound to help Trump just on the basis of reducing fraud.

Pennsylvania voter registration shift
Link 2 / Archive (May 18, 2020)
Link 3 / Archive (July 29, 2020)
Link 4 / Archive (August 31, 2020)
Link 5 / Archive (October 5, 2020)

Spreadsheet dating back to 2015 for those who want it.

Fun fact: Johnstown was the city where the worst flood in the United States happened. Over 2000 people died in 1889.

That morbidness aside, every day makes it clearer Trump voters have a lot more on the line than your average Biden voter (outside maybe the elites and their propaganda arms). The average Biden voter just wants to get the bad orange man out of office. The worst that happens in the event of a Biden loss is that they throw a holy hell tantrum, calm down, and then get on with their lives like last time. Trump voters on the other hand have a lot to lose. They voted for Trump because for decades, their jobs were shipped to China and people were moving away from their towns. Now his administration has given them hope that their career still has a future given how manufacturing has been returning to this country. Their livelihood is at stake and many Trump voters can't afford to spend years acquiring a white collar career if Harris ships their jobs back to China, India, Mexico, etc. Survival of towns like Johnstown and those in the Iron Range may literally depend on a Trump victory. It goes without saying who is more enthusiastic.

Also, it's worth noting that not only has the registration gap been closing, but that it is accelerating. In May 2020, Democrats had a D+803,427 advantage. Then in July, we saw that reduced to D+783,116, the margin closing by 20,311 votes. Within a month, the Democrats had a D+758,854 advantage, the margin closing by 24,262. Now we have a new report that as of October 5th, Democrats' advantage have reduced to D+717,386. Republicans closed the margin by 41,468, nearly twice of that of the previous update. That's amazing news for Republicans, especially since they will need all the vote they can get in what will likely be the state that decides the election.

Of course we also have to remember that in October, Trump had to reveal he had COVID-19 and he also shot down the poisonous stimulus bill. I know that right-wing electoral pollsters are ready to spin how much Republicans are winning voters in Pennsylvania with this argument, but registration does not close until the 19th. My point is, if either Trump catching COVID-19 or shooting down the Pelosi stimulus bill proposal reverse registration trends, Florida's results won't reflect it since voter registration is already closed. Pennsylvania will provide a more accurate look on whenever or not voter registration stays favoring Republicans or not.

If Democrats increase their margin from October 5th, then Biden has a good shot of flipping Pennsylvania. If Republicans keeps closing the margin though, then it is Trump's to lose and Biden has to rely on either voter fraud and/or a shockingly energetic turnout that we have seen no evidence of to flip it, which I'm not sure if he can do.

On AZ, I agree that it is shifting, but not in that severe a way to make it riden with Biden. GOP have today regained their 100k voter registration gap since the Democratic shift in 2018. It still, albiet slightly, is trending Republican. Also, apparently McCain was doing everything in his power to subvert Trump winning the state by refusing Trump to have a ground game in 2016. The AZ GOP chair is now a Trumplican, so the ground game can resume.

I agree we should keep observing PA registrations for any upticks in either candidates support, but I shall stress, you do not stop a realignment easily. I do not think the stimulus talks dissolving again changes much.

Why? Because its 2020 motherfucker, that's why. Since this nuclear tier bomb got dropped by Trump onto himself: Pence channeled the spirit of Tulsi and executed Harris, the media tried to cover for her with articles about mansplaining and a fly, BLM destroyed more WI suburbs, Trump and Biden duked it out about debate 2 rules and dates, and Trump got the greenlight for more rallies by tomorrow. I didn't even remember that what you mentioned just happened, and I wrote a short novel on it 2 days ago. Also, with Pelosi potentially doing the most full-retard move you can do by invoking the 25th Amendment to overthrow Trump via Congress somehow, I am not worried about the stimulus talks.

Like I said, will it matter 24 hours from now?
 
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Sad. If it was true they fucked themselves by blowing the load too early. Now it won't happen.
 
Mexicans don't like niggers and it's niggers they come into contact with most of the time, not professional/hard working blacks. The Democratic party is catering to niggers and their enablers with the reparations and diversity pandering exclusively and throwing everyone else under the bus. Mexicans aren't stupid. Annoying at times yes but not stupid. Don't underestimate their ability to reeeeeee over things like the birthday party being trashed by niggers.

I also think these polls claiming Biden has a significant lead over Trump is just groundwork for the massive mail in voter fraud the Democrats have been planning from the start.
Working class mexicans dont like niggers however the kind of mexicans indoctrinated in the UC system for example, love niggers and wearing BLM shit. There is a class divide among Mexicans and Hispanics/Latinos and also generational where the rich and leftist ones love niggers whereas the poor and middle class ones hate niggers and also illegal immigrants. Many leftists have memoryholed how Cesar Chavez went full MAGA on illegal immigrants before MAGA and Build the Wall was a thing during the Reagan era.
 
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