General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

Kinda feels like they want to keep Minecraft a personal HoloEN group thing for the time being anyway though. They like to play up the whole "we're like one tight-knit family" angle with HoloEN

Yes, they have their own server where Gura was, poor shark, superchat trolled her yesterday telling her that if she open F3 people should be able to see her ip so she was wandering aimless finding the bed and crafting table she made because she did not have the coordinates, it require people superchatting Mori to tell her that it was a joke, Atlantis got delayed because superchats

In better news, Lamy is back, she is playing Minecraft with Botan and she sounds fine
 
Local reaper girl broken by flood of red superchats once again.

Can only communicate via broken recorder notes now.

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Yes, they have their own server where Gura was, poor shark, superchat trolled her yesterday telling her that if she open F3 people should be able to see her ip so she was wandering aimless finding the bed and crafting table she made because she did not have the coordinates, it require people superchatting Mori to tell her that it was a joke, Atlantis got delayed because superchats

In better news, Lamy is back, she is playing Minecraft with Botan and she sounds fine
Luckily someone told Calli and Kiara during their stream today that Gura was being trolled and that hitting F3 is safe for her to do. They should link up soon.

Now time will tell if someone manages to build a cursed YAGOO on their server.
 
After watching a bit of Kiara finally and watching a bit of Calli and Kiara. I kinda get the feeling the whiny voice is just part of Kiara's mannerisms to some extent. It seems like part of the time, she's doing it unintentionally and other times she does it intentionally trying to be funny. Idk too much about the attention whore claims, I didn't really watch the full-on 5-girl collabs. When it was just her and Calli, I only watched a bit because, honestly the constant thirst gets a bit weird and feels forced. None of them really bother me on their own but I can see how Kiara can become really annoying really fast to some.

I get the feeling, after looking at Keekihime's twitch, she was a very small-time streamer compared to being on Hololive and she seemed like more of a cosplayer than a gamer to me so I feel like she's extremely nervous and doesn't really know how to act yet which leads to moments like "I can't revive if you eat me and shit me out." and "I'll shove it all the way up my ass."

I kinda wonder if the whole yuri thing makes Calli uncomfortable.
 
After watching a bit of Kiara finally and watching a bit of Calli and Kiara. I kinda get the feeling the whiny voice is just part of Kiara's mannerisms to some extent. It seems like part of the time, she's doing it unintentionally and other times she does it intentionally trying to be funny. Idk too much about the attention whore claims, I didn't really watch the full-on 5-girl collabs. When it was just her and Calli, I only watched a bit because, honestly the constant thirst gets a bit weird and feels forced. None of them really bother me on their own but I can see how Kiara can become really annoying really fast to some.

I get the feeling, after looking at Keekihime's twitch, she was a very small-time streamer compared to being on Hololive and she seemed like more of a cosplayer than a gamer to me so I feel like she's extremely nervous and doesn't really know how to act yet which leads to moments like "I can't revive if you eat me and shit me out." and "I'll shove it all the way up my ass."

I kinda wonder if the whole yuri thing makes Calli uncomfortable.
On the surface, I've noticed Calli shows her a lot of love and support despite the whole "tsundere" act when Kiara flirts with her, and while I want to believe it's sincere, I'm keeping the possibility open that it's just a face value thing. She genuinely doesn't seem to mind all the art and fanshippers, though.

That being said, if Keeki ever ends up causing problems of her own accord under her Kiara identity now, well, shit. That's probably gonna end up making Demondice feel really, really uncomfortable having abided all the stuff with her, and lowkey supported it, up to that point. But let's all hope that worst case scenario never comes to pass.

If anyone's a potential controversy waiting to happen, my toss up is between Kiara and Amelia. With MAYBE Gura being a dark horse candidate despite how she's been a runaway star.

EDIT: "Despite how Gura's been a runaway star" I say as I recall that Coco was just as much of a hit and Cover was quick to throw her ass under the bus at the first sign of China being China.
 
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After watching a bit of Kiara finally and watching a bit of Calli and Kiara. I kinda get the feeling the whiny voice is just part of Kiara's mannerisms to some extent. It seems like part of the time, she's doing it unintentionally and other times she does it intentionally trying to be funny. Idk too much about the attention whore claims, I didn't really watch the full-on 5-girl collabs. When it was just her and Calli, I only watched a bit because, honestly the constant thirst gets a bit weird and feels forced. None of them really bother me on their own but I can see how Kiara can become really annoying really fast to some.

I get the feeling, after looking at Keekihime's twitch, she was a very small-time streamer compared to being on Hololive and she seemed like more of a cosplayer than a gamer to me so I feel like she's extremely nervous and doesn't really know how to act yet which leads to moments like "I can't revive if you eat me and shit me out." and "I'll shove it all the way up my ass."

I kinda wonder if the whole yuri thing makes Calli uncomfortable.
On the surface, I've noticed Calli shows her a lot of love and support despite the whole "tsundere" act when Kiara flirts with her, and while I want to believe it's sincere, I'm keeping the possibility open that it's just a face value thing. She genuinely doesn't seem to mind all the art and fanshippers, though.

That being said, if Keeki ever ends up causing problems of her own accord under her Kiara identity now, well, shit. That's probably gonna end up making Demondice feel really, really uncomfortable having abided all the stuff with her, and lowkey supported it, up to that point. But let's all hope that worst case scenario never comes to pass.

If anyone's a potential controversy waiting to happen, my toss up is between Kiara and Amelia. With MAYBE Gura being a dark horse candidate despite how she's been a runaway star.

EDIT: "Despite how Gura's been a runaway star" I say as I recall that Coco was just as much of a hit and Cover was quick to throw her ass under the bus at the first sign of China being China.
Keeki does kind of lay it a bit too thick, and during collabs that feature both her and Calli with the other girls, she does a fair bit of talking over everyone else and attention whoring. I've never finished a collab between all five girls because it honestly gets unbearable and if I wanted to only hear her, I'll watch her VODs.

She's not bad, but Calli needs to get her a leash.
 
Keeki does kind of lay it a bit too thick, and during collabs that feature both her and Calli with the other girls, she does a fair bit of talking over everyone else and attention whoring. I've never finished a collab between all five girls because it honestly gets unbearable and if I wanted to only hear her, I'll watch her VODs.

She's not bad, but Calli needs to get her a leash.
The problem with Kiara is that she wants to be the new Pekora since she is talking about her a lot.

Though she seem to have just taken up her more loud side and think that's what's funny with Pekora.

Peko never goes over the line, all the time, of being obnoxious and keeping it steady on the line.
 
The main thing I could see Amelia getting in trouble for is she's said she wants to play Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk on stream, both have nudity iirc. Amelia seems to be more careful now than she was as Sachi. She's keeping her old humor but toned down for Hololive and I don't really play or know much about FPS games but she seems to be fairly good at the games she plays and doesn't seem to enjoy Minecraft which is kinda the chill out game for vtubers.

What was the previous controversy with Keeki anyway?
 
I was playing fire emblem three houses with the Japanese voices and some dialogue from Leonie sounded a lot like Marine, so I checked her VA and its an older lady named Sakura Nogawa. I haven't dug much tbh but her art on her instagram looks similiar to her art in passpartout, she has listed gaming as a hobby for years and is a talented voice actress. Any thoughts?


Passpartout video:
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Leonie dialogue:
 
I recall that Coco was just as much of a hit and Cover was quick to throw her ass under the bus at the first sign of China being China.
Coco was getting death threats by their spergy netizens and YAGOO et al fucking panicked. She wasn't thrown under the bus so much as hidden so the controversy can blow over, and it's currently working.
The main thing I could see Amelia getting in trouble for is she's said she wants to play Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk on stream, both have nudity iirc. Amelia seems to be more careful now than she was as Sachi. She's keeping her old humor but toned down for Hololive and I don't really play or know much about FPS games but she seems to be fairly good at the games she plays and doesn't seem to enjoy Minecraft which is kinda the chill out game for vtubers.

What was the previous controversy with Keeki anyway?
Being a stupid 19 year old that apparently blueballed her way into the idol industry, like 6 years ago.
 
I was playing fire emblem three houses with the Japanese voices and some dialogue from Leonie sounded a lot like Marine, so I checked her VA and its an older lady named Sakura Nogawa. I haven't dug much tbh but her art on her instagram looks similiar to her art in passpartout, she has listed gaming as a hobby for years and is a talented voice actress. Any thoughts?


Passpartout video:
Instagram:
Leonie dialogue:
Sakura Nogawa looks like this:
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Marine looks like this:
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I don't think it's the same lady, but it's an interesting find.
The main thing I could see Amelia getting in trouble for is she's said she wants to play Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk on stream, both have nudity iirc. Amelia seems to be more careful now than she was as Sachi. She's keeping her old humor but toned down for Hololive and I don't really play or know much about FPS games but she seems to be fairly good at the games she plays and doesn't seem to enjoy Minecraft which is kinda the chill out game for vtubers.

What was the previous controversy with Keeki anyway?
I don't know, exactly. She has an older /snow/ thread, though obviously I'd take anything posted by those gals with a grain of salt unless it's a direct screenshot. She was formerly part of the idol group Tone Jewel, then left Japan and did cosplay and music videos. At some point she came back to Japan. Other than that it's hearsay.
 
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Sakura Nogawa looks like this:
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Marine looks like this:
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I don't think it's the same lady, but it's an interesting find.

I don't know, exactly. She has an older /snow/ thread, though obviously I'd take anything posted by those gals with a grain of salt unless it's a direct screenshot. She was formerly part of the idol group Tone Jewel, then left Japan and did cosplay and music videos. At some point she came back to Japan. Other than that it's hearsay.

Lol it didn't even cross my mind to check if there were pics of Marine already out there, thanks for correcting me
 
I still really haven’t been able to get into Amelia or Calliope. I think it’s like when HoloIndonesia did their debut and when it’s in English I realised how forced and awkward the ‘character intros’ felt, I find Calliope and Amelia really hard to watch in a similar way.

I did find this today, though, and I wish there was some place I could buy these. 4 flavors of Fubuki donuts.
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Alsp, no offense to Gura, cause I like her, but I do hope one of the HoloJP girls beats her to 1 million.
 
I still really haven’t been able to get into Amelia or Calliope. I think it’s like when HoloIndonesia did their debut and when it’s in English I realised how forced and awkward the ‘character intros’ felt, I find Calliope and Amelia really hard to watch in a similar way.
I'd argue that's sort of the appeal to Calliope – that she's actually super awkward despite outward presentations and she stumbles over herself most of the time, but is sardonic enough to acknowledge that she's shit at a lot of things while still having the motivation to keep trying to succeed in spite of it. It's what gets people to start red Superchat trains in her streams , because she's almost TOO down on herself a lot of the time and people can relate to that feeling, so they want to show her that they love how she's doing things even if she's doubting herself. Plus, just straight up, old fashioned simping, let's be honest.

Amelia, on the other hand, feels forced in the way that she's trying not to outright be the actual goblin of a person that she really is. Except she's not really trying at all and her "toxic gamer" tendencies and general degeneracy kind of openly bleeds out of her by her own volition. And that's what people love about her, I think. It's alright to be a "toxic gamer" with "gross" predilections, tendencies, and vices if you're a cute 2D waifu. Amelia's pretty good at maximizing comedic appeal out of that side to her presentation as well, I'll give her that much, but her streams generally don't grab me like the others', which is why I tend to put them on as background noise if she's live.

Alsp, no offense to Gura, cause I like her, but I do hope one of the HoloJP girls beats her to 1 million.
Fubuki's at 925k right now, so she'll probably end up beating Gura to the punch. No worries there.

Not unless Gura manages the upset through pure shrimping energy.
 
I'd argue that's sort of the appeal to Calliope – that she's actually super awkward despite outward presentations and she stumbles over herself most of the time, but is sardonic enough to acknowledge that she's shit at a lot of things while still having the motivation to keep trying to succeed in spite of it. It's what gets people to start red Superchat trains in her streams , because she's almost TOO down on herself a lot of the time and people can relate to that feeling, so they want to show her that they love how she's doing things even if she's doubting herself. Plus, just straight up, old fashioned simping, let's be honest.

Amelia, on the other hand, feels forced in the way that she's trying not to outright be the actual goblin of a person that she really is. Except she's not really trying at all and her "toxic gamer" tendencies and general degeneracy kind of openly bleeds out of her by her own volition. And that's what people love about her, I think. It's alright to be a "toxic gamer" with "gross" predilections, tendencies, and vices if you're a cute 2D waifu. Amelia's pretty good at maximizing comedic appeal out of that side to her presentation as well, I'll give her that much, but her streams generally don't grab me like the others', which is why I tend to put them on as background noise if she's live.


Fubuki's at 925k right now, so she'll probably end up beating Gura to the punch. No worries there.

Not unless Gura manages the upset through pure shrimping energy.
Fair enough, that makes me want to try Calli again knowing that. And I suppose if I actually spoke fluent Japanese, I’d probably find a few of the HoloJP girls cringe rather than funny/chill.

speaking of chill, I really love how far Luna’s taken her piano playing,
 
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