2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[dry roasted]

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Greta's proportions always look off to me, like she is eating a gobstopper or something.

I think she's got a bulked out jaw from angrily clenching her teeth all the time. I bet she could tear through a pineapple like a goddamn snappin turtle.

 

[Honest Coyote]

It's a side effect of wuvving da science, I think. What Silver does is SCIENCE! and they fucking love science, don't they, so that means he's always right and if the facts contradict him then clearly it's the facts that are wrong (courtesy of voter suppression, Putin, or whatever this week's excuse is.) Being a lefty means never having to say "oops."

Has Nathaniel Chitin ever explained why he was so off in 2016, or what was wrong his polls? Statistics boils down to math equations, and math is a strictly "garbage in, garbage out" process.

It's pretty much true. Even Portland and Seattle are compeltely boring in terms of the riots that are still going on. The thread moved 5 pages in almost 2 or 3 days!

Wait until Halloween. It's a Saturday with a full moon after months of riots in ongoing lockdowns with a built in excuse for costumes and weapons disguised as props, and the media will ratchet up the fear for the next few weeks. You ain't gotta be superstitious to see the devil getting free reign that night.

I know 1984 get referenced incessantly here in this topic and other related topics, but holy hell.

"George W has always been at war with the GOP. What invasion of Iraq? What torture? Stop asking questions, goy."

CNN continues to prove Trump right that they are the enemy of the people.

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If Bush endorses Biden, regardless of whoever wins, it will give Trump-wing Republicans the perfect opportunity to purge the old GOP. I fully support this, make it easy to get rid of all the neocons.

Y'all pack it up. It's over. It's a wrap. Se acabó.
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Ah, yes, climate change. The new pet cause for the Baizuo now that virtue signaling about BLM gets pushback.

 

[Tour of Italy]

Well what do you know? A warmonger should support the warmonger party. tell us something new for fucks sake

If Bush really endorses biden most of the actual GOP would probably say "Good riddance" and move on. From what I can tell is that the GOP under Trump transformed by letting in more populist then establised candidates. Of course the interesting part will be how the party continues once Trump is gone (either soon or at the latest 2024)

There are only a few potential endorsements for Biden worse than Richard Spencer and I think this would be one of them.

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

I have a question, and I'm not sure where else to ask it.

Not to be a doomer or anything, but what do you think would happen if multiple states unironically tried to secede from the union again? Not like "Calexit," but a legitimate desire to secede? I ask because I'm not sure how much wokeism and neoliberalism the Southern and "flyover" states can take.

 

[UselessIdiot]

There's only a few potential endorsements for Biden worse than Richard Spencer and I think this would be one of them.

Yeah, the left was getting their panties in a bunch when Ellen was hanging out with him not too long ago, and she's not even a politician. I don't think they'll be too eager or enthused to go out and vote for a Democratic candidate that has gotten Bush's full endorsement and support.

 

[heyitsmike]

I have a question, and I'm not sure where else to ask it.

Not to be a doomer or anything, but what do you think would happen if multiple states unironically tried to secede from the union again? Not like "Calexit," but a legitimate desire to secede? I ask because I'm not sure how much wokeism and neoliberalism the Southern and "flyover" states can take.

The last time the Democrats tried to secede the Republican President had a couple hundred thousand of them killed.

 

[the fall of man]

I have a question, and I'm not sure where else to ask it.

Not to be a doomer or anything, but what do you think would happen if multiple states unironically tried to secede from the union again? Not like "Calexit," but a legitimate desire to secede? I ask because I'm not sure how much wokeism and neoliberalism the Southern and "flyover" states can take.

The problem with this is that neoliberalism is “the resistance”. Patriotism is American counterculture right now, so instead of secession you are seeing a war for the soul of America. Neither side wants to secede, both sides want all the marbles.

You won’t see a clear geopolitical divide leading to a balkanisation of the US and territorial civil war - the unified Midwest and Southern Coalition would sweep the Pacific Coast and New English states, and without clear supply routes, Co-Commandants Harris (in Sacramento) and Biden (in cognito) would be open to comms screwery and have nothing except regional militia and the intel community.

Much more realistic is the scenario where an integrated America wages 4GW on itself, which looks like a more violent version of what has been going on, where the objectives and battles are organized via wireless comms. This will only last as long as the intel communities support the resistance; if the turncoats in the FBI and CIA get shaken out things return to “normal” pretty quickly.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

Probably. Though I expect the DNC to break up. The GOP seems to have more or less rallied around Trump. Of course should Trump win he needs to prepare the GOP for the future.

I dream of the day the DNC and DSA shatter the left in the US, but it realistically won't happen. The DNC needs the Berniebro base to get out and do shit, and the DSA needs the DNC's connections and infrastructure. What is more likely is one of the two will be pushed into irrelivancy, possibly via a controlled opposition strategy. Someone who pays lip service to the DSA but obeys Pelosi 100% of the time, or someone who claims to be a moderate but is constantly pushing DSA shit when they think there's no one watching. Either way, it will weaken the party significantly for a while.

 

[CrippleThreat]

I have a question, and I'm not sure where else to ask it.

Not to be a doomer or anything, but what do you think would happen if multiple states unironically tried to secede from the union again? Not like "Calexit," but a legitimate desire to secede? I ask because I'm not sure how much wokeism and neoliberalism the Southern and "flyover" states can take.

Knowing Trump, he'll let them secede just to exploit how awful they'll be in doing it. He'll rake them over the coals with "deals."

Civil War II is only happening if they strike first; even in this radical time, Trump still wants to be peaceful and anti-war (quiet with a tremendous stick).

 

[Aldeland]

I think she's got a bulked out jaw from angrily clenching her teeth all the time. I bet she could tear through a pineapple like a goddamn snappin turtle.

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Holy hell that one is even worse. Her jaw is wider than the top of her head.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

Probably. Though I expect the DNC to break up. The GOP seems to have more or less rallied around Trump. Of course should Trump win he needs to prepare the GOP for the future.

Why would the party that has the brightest future demographically-speaking break up anytime soon? Or are we assuming that deus ex machina of totally baste minorities will finally show themselves at the polls despite expecting them to come around any day now for the last 40 years?

Anyway, here’s a great blog post about the Pennsylvania middle. As much as people think the white working class has “no choice” but to vote Trump, there’s always the option of staying home. I could see it working again in 2020 barely, if Trumpism doesn’t actually revitalize these communities, they’ll just go back to not voting. Could still happen this election. It’s idiotic to chase a few thousand baste blacks when paying the slightest bit of attention to the white working class will net you millions of votes: https://wemeantwell.com/blog/2020/10/04/flyover-voters-more-tired-than-angry/

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Not to be a doomer or anything, but what do you think would happen if multiple states unironically tried to secede from the union again? Not like "Calexit," but a legitimate desire to secede? I ask because I'm not sure how much wokeism and neoliberalism the Southern and "flyover" states can take.

It wouldn't be multiple states, it would be liberals put in power by high population cities and those cities. You think New York or Seattle or Portland can survive when truckers refuse to bring in food? You think 20 miles out when they start hitting conservative farmland and rural areas they'll be welcomed with open arms? These cities will literally eat each other alive.

 

[spiritofamermaid]

Y'all pack it up. It's over. It's a wrap. Se acabó.
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Reeeeeeee election inference by foreigners!!

 

[MrJokerRager]

Why would the party that has the brightest future demographically-speaking break up anytime soon? Or are we assuming that deus ex machina of totally baste minorities will finally show themselves at the polls despite expecting them to come around any day now for the last 40 years?

Anyway, here’s a great blog post about the Pennsylvania middle. As much as people think the white working class has “no choice” but to vote Trump, there’s always the option of staying home. I could see it working again in 2020 barely, if Trumpism doesn’t actually revitalize these communities, they’ll just go back to not voting. Could still happen this election. It’s idiotic to chase a few thousand baste blacks when paying the slightest bit of attention to the white working class will net you millions of votes: https://wemeantwell.com/blog/2020/10/04/flyover-voters-more-tired-than-angry/

I believe the based minorities talking point is to depress and disorganize the Democratic Party. All the republicans realize that miraculously getting some magic over 50 percent vote from every other non white group is a pipe dream let alone even 10 or 20.

Trump's policies like reducing immigration and the trade war is to help his white working class workers as much as possible. All those regions have been trending red for a while anyways.

 

[Big Nasty]

I, for one, did not see Trump losing the much coveted mentally ill Swedish children vote. Took me completely by surprise...

All Swedish politicians, regardless of party affiliation, will endorse any POTUS or presidential candidate with a (D) next to their name.

Oddly enough, Trump has an "approval rating" of nearly 20% in Sweden. Bush had around 10%.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

I have a question, and I'm not sure where else to ask it.

Not to be a doomer or anything, but what do you think would happen if multiple states unironically tried to secede from the union again? Not like "Calexit," but a legitimate desire to secede? I ask because I'm not sure how much wokeism and neoliberalism the Southern and "flyover" states can take.

The repubs won't try to secede, period. They'll only trigger civil war if the dems rig the ellection (which is the only way the dems can win at this point really) and if they do it won't be secession they seek, it'll be purging.

As for the democrats, they might try to get a few high density population centers to trigger a war of secession. If they do, they can expect the rural areas around them to be the first to counter attack. Wanna know how that'd look? Don't look at the american civil war. Look at the spanish. No, not the so-called "spanish civil war", look at the "spanish cantonal civil war" during the 1st spanish republic. Long story short, it ends in a bloodbath for the secessionists and unilateral undisputed victory for the country they tried to break away from. And more likely than not a LOT of memes due to the secessionists hubris. (Seriously, look up "muerte al ladron" for seville or literally anything about "secessionist cartagena", we're still memeing the fuckers to this day and back in the day entire satire novels were made about how stupid that got. It was hilarious.)

So yeah, long story short, nah.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

The first time I voted in a Presidential Election was 2004. I voted for Bush over Kerry for two big reasons: Healthcare and the space program. Kerry's healthcare plan was just godawful, and one of the only things I liked about Bush was his very pro-NASA stance. And when it came to the War in Iraq, I thought that Kerry's withdrawal plan/timeline was really bad; I figured that "Well, we're there already ... If we pull the troops out too soon, then things could get even uglier. Fuck."

So yeah, I pretty much held my nose to vote for Bush that year, and he managed to piss me off beyond belief months within his second term. I've hated him ever since, for many reasons that so many others have already stated. Thinking about it now, maybe if we had gotten Kerry-- a charisma vacuum-- in 2004, then maybe we could have avoided 8 years of Obomber. Who knows; I guess there's no point in thinking about "what ifs."

So Dubya endorses Biden? GOOD. Fuck off, Bush family. Stay salty about Yeb! being the one child left behind.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

Why would the party that has the brightest future demographically-speaking break up anytime soon? Or are we assuming that deus ex machina of totally baste minorities will finally show themselves at the polls despite expecting them to come around any day now for the last 40 years?

Anyway, here’s a great blog post about the Pennsylvania middle. As much as people think the white working class has “no choice” but to vote Trump, there’s always the option of staying home. I could see it working again in 2020 barely, if Trumpism doesn’t actually revitalize these communities, they’ll just go back to not voting. Could still happen this election. It’s idiotic to chase a few thousand baste blacks when paying the slightest bit of attention to the white working class will net you millions of votes: https://wemeantwell.com/blog/2020/10/04/flyover-voters-more-tired-than-angry/

There is no point in arguing this. The thread has already made up it's mind; Trump used those rust belt voters to get elected and it seems incresingly obvious he will throw them under the bus once he gets re-elected in favor of a "multi-ethnic coalition" as the thread cheerfully calls it. You can't vote Biden out of spite because his VP would just do the same thing. All paths lead to the same result.

I'm so tired.

 

[CrippleThreat]

So Dubya endorses Biden? GOOD. Fuck off, Bush family. Stay salty about Yeb! being the one child left behind.

Sad thing is, after Dubya, Barbara Bush had enough of the boys becoming presidents because of how mush brained they became during the job and after it was over: "Two is enough."

I think she didn't even support Jeb too.

 

[Honest Coyote]

Why would the party that has the brightest future demographically-speaking break up anytime soon? Or are we assuming that deus ex machina of totally baste minorities will finally show themselves at the polls despite expecting them to come around any day now for the last 40 years?

Anyway, here’s a great blog post about the Pennsylvania middle. As much as people think the white working class has “no choice” but to vote Trump, there’s always the option of staying home. I could see it working again in 2020 barely, if Trumpism doesn’t actually revitalize these communities, they’ll just go back to not voting. Could still happen this election. It’s idiotic to chase a few thousand baste blacks when paying the slightest bit of attention to the white working class will net you millions of votes: https://wemeantwell.com/blog/2020/10/04/flyover-voters-more-tired-than-angry/

True, but don't assume minorities are loyal to the Democrats. AOC primaried a white veteran Democrat to get her seat. Over the next 10 years, the Democrats are going to have a major base splitting issue arise out of the fact the minorities want to be more than foot soldiers.