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Yeah it seems like they opened themselves up on multiple avenues here. I just wonder why bring Pinkerton into it? why not just claim he's some rando security guy? Strange shit, then agin what about these riots isn't strange?
U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers
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Atomic Wangler
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"Security's" behavior actually reminds me of a strange video I saw a while back in a news report. A security guard at a parking lot approached two guys over some violation in the lot, they got into a verbal altercation where the guard got in their face. One of the guys pushed the guard who then went for the worst punch I've ever seen. The two guys are backing away laughing when the guard opens fire. Security hit neither of them, but tried to clean up the scene and claimed ignorance of the whole event. Problem was one of the guys was recording on his phone. Security wound up getting hit with a slew of charges in the aftermath.
It's why I'm cautiously optimistic this might actually get prosecuted. Sure they can claim he was hired as security for the news crew, but we'll see if that narrative sticks around should this go to trial, or if it falls apart under questioning the same way "hands up, don't shoot" did. It will be interesting given he has no work history with the Pinkertons contrary to what was earlier reported.
Also, given that the Pinkertons thing was a lie, how much else is a lie? Was he even hired by the news station? Did he even have a concealed carry permit?
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So leftists can't obey cops but think we need to obey civilians larping illegally as security guards.
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PICTURED: Security guard who 'shot dead Patriot Muster protester'
Denver Police identified 30-year-old Matthew Dolloff as the man who shot dead a 'Patriot Muster' protester during dueling rallies outside the city's Civic Center on Saturday.
I thought I'd share this, and while I know it touches on a lot of people on here have said, it's interesting to read. The article itself was not the main article on the Daily Mail website (the DM for non Britbongs, is a middle market.middle class tabloid, which mainly has a readership of right leaning voters) because there's a lot of stuff going round just now about the impending additional curbs to civil liberties here to be announced tomorrow. But it was one of the "main" articles being run.
It points out that Dolloff was "working" for Channel 9 news, Pinkerton refused to comment on this whole thing, and that Dolloff was wearing a BLM shirt. Also touches upon how Dolloff is heard telling the man he shot "fucking mace me" and how Keltner's mother said "I moved to Arkansas because Coloradi got too expensive and liberal. The left has gotten out of hand".
Kinda interesting to see they're even giving such a view an airing.
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You might want to spend a minute fact checking this.
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9News is definitely fucked. They hired the guy, so they're on the hook, and Doloff's hobby farm definitely isn't going to cover a $10+ million settlement.
Pinkerton's case is interesting. If Doloff was actually contracted through Pinkerton despite not being legally qualified for security work in Denver, 9News could then turn around and blame Pinkerton for providing them with a blatantly unqualified security guard. On the other hand, if he wasn't actually contracted through Pinkerton, Pinkerton could go after 9News for a defamation claim, as their reputation was damaged by being associated with this dumbass.
Then again, it could also be Doloff's fault - say for example if he was in fact hired through Pinkerton, but with the understanding that he wasn't legally allowed to do security work in Colorado cities that have additional training requirements. Or it could be the producer's fault, if he represented to his employer that Doloff was actually qualified security when he really wasn't.
The interesting bit will be seeing how liability and damages will be distributed. From a quick bit of googling Colorado appears to use comparative fault rather than joint and several liability, so the victim's family will likely push for parties with more assets to take a greater share of the blame.
TL;DR - Everyone's getting sued, lawyers will make bank, and all the parties involved will probably try to point fingers at each other.
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I'm starting to think the antifa reporter lied to the news agency about getting a guard from Pinkerton and just got an armed antifa to accompany him.
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Now this is interesting. When was the Trump video added? If it was within the past couple of weeks and there's no other history of pro-Trump stuff on her account, it's got me thinking. If this was an actual planned hit (which I believe it absolutely is) and she knew about it beforehand, maybe they thought adding a pro-Trump video might throw off that antifa stench coming from both of them. And of course, if they ever have to actually broadcast this story, the news will snatch that pro-Trump video and parade it as proof that 'it's those dangerous right-wingers'. Switch it all to hell and confuse everyone as usual.
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"Look, the markets real bad right now so we have no funding for security. If you go to that protest we can't guarantee your safety."
"Don't worry, I know a guy."
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Expense allowances are common for work like that and it's possible he had a sizable one and decided to cut expenses by hiring his friend. An expense allowance is taxable income you get in addition to your salary that's given to you for expenses but you don't have to account to your employer for it.
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If I were willing to bet, I'd say that's most likely an angle the prosecution is going to play in order to get NBC9 to testify against the producer and soycurity.
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I'd wager it's not looking good for 9News, but the question will be who lied about what to whom, so I suspect a civil suit will be a liability hot-potato as everyone tries to blame everyone else.
Dropping the archive for the original claim that Pinkerton was responsible for the guard by 9News:
This is pretty close to where I am with it, my opinion is either the reporter found this guy at a protest, or someone at the station new this guy from a protest (it wouldn't shock me to learn that Clark faggot gave a recommendation), and the fact that Dolloff was not licensed but was friendly with antifa et al was considered more important than his actual licensing status for...reasons.
I wonder if "contracted through Pinkerton" will morph into "he worked for Pinkerton...at some point but independently contracted" because that's the obvious weasel that playing telephone with "contracted through Pinkerton" can come up with when one starts pulling on the thread of that obvious lie.
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It's just like their "members of the press". As long as you write "security" on yourself, then you are one. It also has the added bonus of making you immune from all wrong doing!
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Yes, we learned this when CHAZ "security" murdered 3 black people and not a single leftist cared because that is the utopia they want for us all.
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There are two comments in that story: Maybe the POS shouldn't have assaulted an armed man.
What. The. Entire. Fuck.
Notice this was never ONCE uttered about Kyle Rittenhouse.
Yanno...for a faction that brays on constantly about being morally superior and right side of history, wouldn't you want to win people over by...IDK...RISING ABOVE?
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My tinfoil theory is the "reporter" was doing his job, as having legit proclivities with antifa; same as Doloff.
But those videos of soycurity watching blue-shirt's back.... he wasn't looking for anything, he was watching for something in particular.
The fact that Doloff handed the protographer his phone was particularly telling.
He knew what they were going into, and had been watching for Black Guns Matter guy to kick off some shit.
But those videos of soycurity watching blue-shirt's back.... he wasn't looking for anything, he was watching for something in particular.
The fact that Doloff handed the protographer his phone was particularly telling.
He knew what they were going into, and had been watching for Black Guns Matter guy to kick off some shit.
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The dude is Mega Fucked, he has no self defense claim to stand on, is in wanton violation of multiple licensing laws, and likely lied about his credentials. 9news is on the hook for a ton of legal too, because its THEIR job to ensure their security is above board, they are legally on the hook for anything he does. Speaking of which...
ROYALLY fucked. Pinkerton requires full qualifications to be fielded. That he DOESN'T have them says... he ain't Pinkerton. He probably lied, and 9News NEVER CHECKED. To contradict your lower, if you have separate causes for each you can individually sue everyone. comparative fault only kicks in if its the same cause of action.
Note, a cause of action can be the same law, but still be separate. "its YOUR fault for not checking his credentials" is legally distinct from "its your fault for not ensuring he gained those credentials", and would let you use 9News and Pinkerton seperetly.
But given the above, welll... pinkerton might want to sue some people too.
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From a few pages back, just on the off chance that it turns out to be real. Don't forget to archive all this stuff guys.
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Another article in the DM about this story.
I got two archives. The DM has been updating this. This one is from 18 hours ago when it first broke:
A person reported to be a supporter of the Patriot Muster militia has been shot and killed at a protest in Denver, allegedly by a counterprotester with the BLM-Antifa rally.
This one is the most recent:
Same URI - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...t-seriously-injured-Denver-demonstration.html
They contain different headlines as it is updated. In the original they claim it was a counterprotester with the BLM-Antifa rally.
In the screenshot shown above for the most recent update they say - 9News confirmed that the security guard was a contractor working to protect their TV crew.
ETA: Screenshot of first archive from 18 hours ago -
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From 'BLM gunman' to 'Pinkerton security guard'.
I got two archives. The DM has been updating this. This one is from 18 hours ago when it first broke:
A person reported to be a supporter of the Patriot Muster militia has been shot and killed at a protest in Denver, allegedly by a counterprotester with the BLM-Antifa rally.
This one is the most recent:
Same URI - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...t-seriously-injured-Denver-demonstration.html
They contain different headlines as it is updated. In the original they claim it was a counterprotester with the BLM-Antifa rally.
In the screenshot shown above for the most recent update they say - 9News confirmed that the security guard was a contractor working to protect their TV crew.
ETA: Screenshot of first archive from 18 hours ago -
Dramatic moment cops arrest BLM gunman after 'he shot dead Patriot Muster protester' who maced him
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From 'BLM gunman' to 'Pinkerton security guard'.
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I'm wondering if handing your phone off like that is tampering with evidence or w/e. I am not a law so I have no idea.
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