U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

[anionfarflung]

Portland's Wheels is out today yelling at patriots justifying the shooting:

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I hope he spins out in a puddle and breaks his brittle bones.

I am delighted that he is a cripple.

 

[Puff]

Where did this phrase "fuck around and find out" come from? Why is lefty twitter using it now when it seemed like a /pol/ thing before?

Not sure if it's from them, but the Proud Boys use it extensively.

 

[inception_state]

ROYALLY fucked. Pinkerton requires full qualifications to be fielded. That he DOESN'T have them says... he ain't Pinkerton. He probably lied, and 9News NEVER CHECKED. To contradict your lower, if you have separate causes for each you can individually sue everyone. comparative fault only kicks in if its the same cause of action.

Apparently Pinkerton confirmed to Buzzfeed News that Doloff was a "contractor agent", so either they fucked up or Doloff was outside the bounds of his contract by illegally working in Denver. I have no idea how Pinkerton vets their contractors, but possibly they do it on a state level with the caveat of "you must be fully licensed in any municipality you plan to work in"? The law Doloff was breaking was Denver-specific.

9News did not immediately respond to BuzzFeed News' request for comment. Pinkerton confirmed to BuzzFeed News that Dolloff was a "contractor agent" and that it provides armed services, but would not expand on Dolloff's past work with the company citing client confidentiality.

I have some knowledge of Securitas (which bought Pinkerton) and they're a bit of a joke. Their contractors were more like Walmart greeters than actual security. I felt bad for the dudes with virtually zero training, no firearms, a fluorescent vest, and probably getting paid $15 an hour to act as highly visible targets in the case of an actual threat.

 

[Gehenna]

Apparently Pinkerton confirmed to Buzzfeed News that Doloff was a "contractor agent", so either they fucked up or Doloff was outside the bounds of his contract by illegally working in Denver. I have no idea how Pinkerton vets their contractors, but possibly they do it on a state level with the caveat of "you must be fully licensed in any municipality you plan to work in"?

Odd, though a handful of things rise as possibilities.
1: As you said, outside his contract.
2: Not licensed for the state
3: Not operating on Pinkerton's dime.

Pinkerton should ensure he is licensed to operate in the state if he has a contract in it.

 

[Puff]

This could be fun. I do know at least two of the groups named have no fucking clue what this is and want nothing to do with it.

This shit glows.

 

[Jump]

Not sure if it's from them, but the Proud Boys use it extensively.

It's old biker lingo. I think it made the crossover to the internet via the PB. Lots of them seem to be bikers.

 

[Puff]

It's old biker lingo. I think it made the crossover to the internet via the PB. Lots of them seem to be bikers.

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You underestimate the number of ex-bikers in the Proud Boys.

 

[Smug Cat]

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9News has some explaining to do. In court.

We can add this.
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This is the most confusing story in the world right now. The original shooting video shows him as the aggressor, very much acting like a BLM/antifa. The news station reports he's one of their contractors, but he's not licensed to work as a guard, but why in the hot buttered fuck would a news station lie about a murderer caught on camera being employed by them? What possible motivation would they have to expose themselves to that kind of liability and bad press? You would think that before running a story that makes them look that bad, they'd at least check on the HR records or whatever to make sure all their ducks are in a row re: the psychopath they hired.

The Denver PD is saying that he has no ties to antifa or whatever, and why would the PD lie in a way that's sympathetic to antifa? I don't think even the portland PD is that pozzed.

"Security's" behavior actually reminds me of a strange video I saw a while back in a news report. A security guard at a parking lot approached two guys over some violation in the lot, they got into a verbal altercation where the guard got in their face. One of the guys pushed the guard who then went for the worst punch I've ever seen. The two guys are backing away laughing when the guard opens fire. Security hit neither of them, but tried to clean up the scene and claimed ignorance of the whole event. Problem was one of the guys was recording on his phone. Security wound up getting hit with a slew of charges in the aftermath.

It's why I'm cautiously optimistic this might actually get prosecuted. Sure they can claim he was hired as security for the news crew, but we'll see if that narrative sticks around should this go to trial, or if it falls apart under questioning the same way "hands up, don't shoot" did. It will be interesting given he has no work history with the Pinkertons contrary to what was earlier reported.

Also, given that the Pinkertons thing was a lie, how much else is a lie? Was he even hired by the news station? Did he even have a concealed carry permit?

I've always heard that security guards are the people who wanted to be cops but couldn't pass even the meager qualifications for that. They tend to be either wildly incompetent or absolute powermad psychopaths.

I'm starting to think the antifa reporter lied to the news agency about getting a guard from Pinkerton and just got an armed antifa to accompany him.

This is, thus far, the most plausible explanation I've seen. The antifa reporter is the guy who was arrested with him, right?

 

[Gehenna]

This is, thus far, the most plausible explanation I've seen. The antifa reporter is the guy who was arrested with him, right?

If I were to conjecture, he knew Pinkerton had a contract with 9News, and found a member who ideologically supported him. And both weren't smart enough to make sure he was actually licensed for the area.

 

[Jump]

They tend to be either wildly incompetent or absolute powermad psychopaths.

Well I know of at least one that's good.

 

[thx1138]

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9News has some explaining to do. In court.

They won't be held accountable.

 

[AnitaSarsleezian]

Expense allowances are common for work like that and it's possible he had a sizable one and decided to cut expenses by hiring his friend. An expense allowance is taxable income you get in addition to your salary that's given to you for expenses but you don't have to account to your employer for it.

Is it? I've been music director for a number of tours and I always had to account for my expense account. Generally I was given a company credit card for expenses and kind of a limit, "Try not to go over $10,000 for the 3 month tour" and would use it to replace or repair equipment, buy food if needed for unscheduled rehearsals, getting musician's tour outfits cleaned, etc. Every Sunday night the tour manager would hold a meeting and it was usually me, the production manager, and the truck drivers who would have to go, explain what we charged during the previous week, and then provide receipts for the tour manager to file away.

The biggest fuck ups (the the most replaced on the tour) were always the truck drivers who would always get caught doing stupid shit or running scams. One time a truck driver got caught buying extra fuel on the expense account and re-selling it cheaply to other truck drivers. Another truck driver bought over $100 in lottery tickets because he thought he could buy anything as long as he provided a receipt.

Hopefully if the expense account is like what I've experienced, then there has to be a receipt or paper trail leading to the security guard.

What you described sounds more like a per diem, which was extra taxable income given to us on tour to feed ourselves or use on whatever we wanted to spend it on. Generally on a national tour it's $75 a person per day. The idiots on tour would order room service or eat out constantly while I'd buy $10 worth of groceries in the morning, feed myself all day on it and pocket the other $65 and go home with a few extra grand in my pocket.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Well I know of at least one that's good.

Lmao
Jogger: Am I shot?
Cop: Oh fuck yeah

 

[thx1138]

Lmao
Jogger: Am I shot?
Cop: Oh fuck yeah

I fucking love this video. This guy is the Mirror Universe version of Al Powell (the black cop in Die Hard)

 

[Gehenna]

Well I know of at least one that's good.

No. Fucks. Given. I love it.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

This is the most confusing story in the world right now. The original shooting video shows him as the aggressor, very much acting like a BLM/antifa.

The only reason you are confused is because you think the guy arguing in the Black Guns Matter shirt is the shooter.

It isn't.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Is it? I've been music director for a number of tours and I always had to account for my expense account. Generally I was given a company credit card for expenses and kind of a limit, "Try not to go over $10,000 for the 3 month tour" and would use it to replace or repair equipment, buy food if needed for unscheduled rehearsals, getting musician's tour outfits cleaned, etc. Every Sunday night the tour manager would hold a meeting and it was usually me, the production manager, and the truck drivers who would have to go, explain what we charged during the previous week, and then provide receipts for the tour manager to file away.

The biggest fuck ups (the the most replaced on the tour) were always the truck drivers who would always get caught doing stupid shit or running scams. One time a truck driver got caught buying extra fuel on the expense account and re-selling it cheaply to other truck drivers. Another truck driver bought over $100 in lottery tickets because he thought he could buy anything as long as he provided a receipt.

Hopefully if the expense account is like what I've experienced, then there has to be a receipt or paper trail leading to the security guard.

What you described sounds more like a per diem, which was extra taxable income given to us on tour to feed ourselves or use on whatever we wanted to spend it on. Generally on a national tour it's $75 a person per day. The idiots on tour would order room service or eat out constantly while I'd buy $10 worth of groceries in the morning, feed myself all day on it and pocket the other $65 and go home with a few extra grand in my pocket.

An expense allowance is common in some but not all jobs, it's actually called that on a paycheck. It's taxable income. I know this because I worked on a lawsuit where this came up and I got a declaration from the IRS on it. It's a bit shady as a way for an employee to claim a lower salary by omitting the allowance. Credit cards are replacing it and when employers simply put a limit on it and don't bother with itemization the IRS looks at that as additional income.

Back to the shooter, looks like he married the inbred Dueling Banjos hillbilly from Deliverance:

 

[TitusOvid]

You can see that he's clearly backing away even before the gun is drawn:

For a side that loves to harp on being on the side of facts, the facts never seem to be on their side.

 

[Who dat?]

Back to the shooter, looks like he married the inbred Dueling Banjos hillbilly from Deliverance:

She must have one hell of a personality, or else that's a rubber mask or something, because not even taking her teeth out and holding your drink would make that worth the trouble. I've sure never been drunk enough to stick any part of me into any part of that.

 

[NJBear]

Okay, now I'm scared.