1 killed, 2 in custody after gunfire erupts near downtown Denver rallies - ah shit here we go again

1 killed, 2 in custody after gunfire erupts near downtown Denver rallies - ah shit here we go again​

Police took two people into custody after a shooting occurred near the Colorado state Capitol that involved opposing protest groups

By: Bob D'Angelo, Cox Media Group National Content Desk
Updated: October 10, 2020 - 4:43 PM

DENVER — One person was killed and two people are in custody on Saturday after gunfire erupted near an area where protests between opposing groups in downtown Denver were occurring, authorities said.


The shooting occurred in the courtyard of the Denver Art Museum, KCNC reported.


A man participating in a “Patriot Rally,” which also included self-described Black Lives Matter-antifa protesters, sprayed mace at another man, according to the Denver Post. The man sprayed by mace then shot the first protester with a handgun, the newspaper reported.



The victim, whose identity has not been released, was transported to an area hospital and was later pronounced dead, KCNC reported.

https://twitter.com/denverpost/status/1315053544890826753

One of the two persons taken into custody was not involved in the shooting, according to the Denver Police Department.

According to a later tweet from police, “further investigation has determined the (other) suspect is a private security guard with no affiliation with antifa.”

Officials said more information will be released “as it becomes available.”

https://twitter.com/DenverPolice/status/1315046508572491776

The Patriot Rally was scheduled for 2 p.m. local time, KUSA reported. The counter protest, called a “BLM-Antifa Soup Drive,” began 30 minutes earlier at Civic Center Park, which is located next to the state Capitol, the television station reported.

Police, who earlier fired what appeared to be pepper balls at the leftist protest group, said they were working on a homicide investigation, the Post reported.

Several Denver police officers in riot gear were on the scene when the shooting occurred, KMGH reported. Witnesses said the victim was shot at point-blank range, the television station reported.

The Denver Police Department did not provide specifics about the shooting but released a statement.

“The Denver Police Department respects the right to peacefully assemble,” the statement read. “Those who participate in protests, demonstrations, marches, or other gatherings, as protected by the First Amendment, are reminded to do so in a lawful manner. Individuals who choose to act outside of local, state and federal law, will be subject to citation or arrest.”

https://twitter.com/BySajaHindi/status/1315081317315420160

https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/1-killed-2-custody-after-gunfire-erupts-near-downtown-denver-rallies/BIKIAOQLPFAXHEEK57BKKX5JII/

Viddy: https://twitter.com/i/status/1315110109303824384

Media is in full damage control, the shooter was a "random security guard" who attacked in "self defence" after being maced and is not affiliated with Antifa because Antifa does not exist and is just an idea.

Also Twitter celebrating the kill.

 

[dry roasted]

Does anyone have any video of the shooting so I can see whether or not the guy with the pepper spray was the first to escalate things?

The "first to escalate things" is definitely the important thing here. But the more I've tried to form an opinion of who "started it", the more I realize I don't know how to judge that. Guy shot because he was peppersprayed. He peppersprayed because guy pointed a gun in his face. Guy pointed a gun in his face because he slapped him. He slapped because guy pushed him. Guy pushed him because he got close and yelled in his face. He got up in his face because guy was antagonizing him. And so on. I think the origin of this was just some pissy words that gradually escalated back and forth.

Is "starting it" by talking shit enough to justify a bullet to the head? Or is there a line that was crossed in another action--The first person to make physical contact, the first offensive vs defensive physical contact, etc?

I'm inclined to think the dead man was more defensive during the confrontation: an open-handed slap instead of a punch, he's backed up more than the shooter when the gun is drawn, pepperspray instead of a lethal weapon. I think the shooter was aggressive or at the very least over zealous and unprofessional. I don't understand why a private security guard (not for the property but for a news producer/journalist) is getting into a spat like this, getting so close, drawing his gun, when there was a fucking swat team a few feet away, on his side of the alley. They materialize immediately after the shot. I don't personally believe he feared for his life because of an open-handed slap. And if he did, he only had to retreat a few feet and he would have a wall of police to hide behind. Either way, I don't think a jury will buy that he felt endangered. So for me that whole "who started it" line is the drawing of the gun. Very curious to see how the experts evaluate it though, and how it eventually plays out in court.

 

[Kheapathic]

I don't understand why a private security guard (not for the property but for a news producer/journalist) is getting into a spat like this, getting so close, drawing his gun, when there was a fucking swat team a few feet away, on his side of the alley. They materialize immediately after the shot. I don't personally believe he feared for his life because of an open-handed slap. And if he did, he only had to retreat a few feet and he would have a wall of police to hide behind. Either way, I don't think a jury will buy that he felt endangered. So for me that whole "who started it" line is the drawing of the gun. Very curious to see how the experts evaluate it though, and how it eventually plays out in court.

This is what I've been thinking of for a while and the only thing I can think of, is he was there to protest, not guard. The hard part is figuring out exactly what this guy is and the news station saying he was hired security for someone, and they're standing by it, while he seems to have no credentials. I've known people who faked shit, and a simple phone call is all that's needed to bust a fake; ask once, get told no, ask twice just to be sure and that's it, if they're not on file, they're lying. Because this whole thing stinks, he wasn't standing off to the side of someone in front of a camera or acting professional; he seems to have been, at best, escorting someone there to protest/cause a spectacle. There's not a lot to go off of with the timeline, but there seems to be little to no de-escalation or telling his charge "It's time to leave." Cant' say for certain, but I'm smelling someone looking for trouble, and he managed to find it.

 

[Crazedking]

Alright, with a clearer story surrounding the events and lies debunked like the shooter being a security guard this does cast doubt on the self defense story.

If from the pictures, the shooters reached for the gun or mace of the victim and then was slapped back in retalation then that sorta kill the stand your ground defense.

Hopefully this goes to an actual trial. If its another DA refusing to prosecute, were gonna see some actual rightwing brigade start murdering folks over something like this.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

Alright, with a clearer story surrounding the events and lies debunked like the shooter being a security guard this does cast doubt on the self defense story.

If from the pictures, the shooters reached for the gun or mace of the victim and then was slapped back in retalation then that sorta kill the stand your ground defense.

Hopefully this goes to an actual trial. If its another DA refusing to prosecute, were gonna see some actual rightwing brigade start murdering folks over something like this.

The security guard thing hasn't quite been debunked yet.

 

[Crazedking]

The security guard thing hasn't quite been debunked yet.
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Hah alright, i was going by the memology101 vid saying that hes not registered as working for pinkerton and he doesnt and never had a valid license (for the area). So he was working as a contractor, gonna assume that is different than an actual employee under them. Either way, looks like he wasnt licensed to work in denver, so its not a good look for News9 or Pinkerton when someone unlicensed claim to work for your company and then kills someone.

 

[Curious Addie]

The victim, Lee Kelter, made custom western hats. His website seems to be defunct since 2017:

http://www.crossfirehats.com/

Crossfire Cowboy Hats Of Denver Colorado - Custom Western Hats And Bands

Custom cowboy hats and hand braided hat bands.

web.archive.org

Does this look like the face of the agressor in a deadly street altercation? I don't think so, and neither does Sam Elliot.

This dude is a turboboomer at a rally with his son, there is no way I will believe he attacked and the shooter acted defensively.

 

[FlappyBat]

The security guard thing hasn't quite been debunked yet.
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Hah alright, i was going by the memology101 vid saying that hes not registered as working for pinkerton and he doesnt and never had a valid license (for the area). So he was working as a contractor, gonna assume that is different than an actual employee under them. Either way, looks like he wasnt licensed to work in denver, so its not a good look for News9 or Pinkerton when someone unlicensed claim to work for your company and then kills someone.

9News themselves are now saying Pinkerton has denied he worked for them.

https://archive.vn/rvWSo

DENVER — The man being held for investigation in the deadly shooting near dueling demonstrators in Denver on Saturday was working as a security guard but was not properly licensed, 9Wants to Know has learned.
Matthew Dolloff, 30, was contracted through the company Pinkerton by 9NEWS. It has been the practice of 9NEWS for a number of months to contract private security to accompany staff at protests.

Pinkerton, however, said it does not actually employ Dolloff – Pinkerton did not share the name of the company for which Dolloff worked.
RELATED: Security guard arrested on suspicion of first-degree murder after fatal shooting near dueling Denver rallies
Dolloff was arrested moments after a single gunshot rang out on the plaza between the Denver Art Museum and the city’s main library. He was on Sunday being held without bail on suspicion of first-degree murder following the shooting that left one man dead.
According to Eric Escudero, marketing and communications manager for the city’s Department of Excise and Licenses, “there is no record” that Dolloff had a license required by the city to work as a security guard – and no evidence he’d had one in the past.
City law defines a security guard as “a person employed or engaged by a private security employer to perform security services.”
Investigators have concluded that Dolloff was acting as a security guard at the time of the incident, according to a tweet from the Denver Police Department (DPD). It reads, in part, “further investigation has revealed that, at the time of the shooting, the suspect was acting in a professional capacity as an armed security guard for a local media outlet and not a protest participant.”


Denver Police Dept.
@DenverPolice
·
Oct 11, 2020
Replying to @DenverPolice
UPDATE 1/3: The victim's identity will be released by the #Denver Office of the Medical Examiner. Further investigation has revealed that, at the time of the shooting, the suspect was acting in a professional capacity as an armed security guard for a local media outlet and...

Denver Police Dept.
@DenverPolice
UPDATE 2/3: ...not a protest participant. Immediately following the incident, rumors were circulating regarding the suspect’s affiliation with a particular group. Investigators are unaware of whether the suspect is personally affiliated with any political organization.
9:51 PM · Oct 11, 2020
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Dolloff could face a fine of up to $999 and a year in jail, Escudero said, if convicted of violating city law about security licensing.
And the company that employs him could also face ramifications under the law – the city ordinance requires such companies to make sure all of its security guards are licensed.
But it’s not clear who Dolloff actually works for. In a statement issued Sunday afternoon, Pinkerton officials described him as a contractor.

“We are in the process of still gathering information to better understand the incident that occurred in Denver on October 10 involving a contractor agent,” the statement says. “The agent in question is not a Pinkerton employee. Pinkerton is fully cooperating with law enforcement authorities in their investigation of this matter.”
The Denver City Attorney’s Office “will weigh any additional criminal charges related to the defendant possibly operating as an unlicensed security guard once the Denver Police Department completes its homicide investigation,” said Ryan Luby, spokesman for the CA's Office. “The CAO is also working with the Denver Department of Excise and Licenses to weigh disciplinary action against the security guard company for hiring and deploying an unlicensed guard, one without a license, much less an armed endorsement.”
Saturday’s incident came near the end of dueling demonstrations that included members of Black Lives Matter and other groups on one side, as well as people attending what was called a "Patriot Muster." The gatherings were dispersing when a group of people gathered in the plaza near the art museum.
Photographs and videos show the immediate moment of the confrontation, what appears to be physical contact between a demonstrator and Dolloff, a spray of a chemical irritant and a gunshot.
Denver prosecutors are expected to decide in the coming days whether he will be charged with a crime.
The identity of the man who died has not been released by the coroner’s office

It sounds like at best he was sub-contracted through Pinkerton, but even that is suspect.

 

[WeDon'tNeedToWhisper]

Reading through this thread and looking at this guys social media and private life, I get this sense that he was just waiting to do something like this. He seemed to be heavily involved in activism in his late teens/early 20s but maybe that died down once he got married and started a business, but never really left his mind.
Then he gets offered this security(?) job where he can hide in plain sight and thinks to himself that if his trigger-happy finger gets extra happy, then it's ok for him to shoot someone because he's "security".
I don't think he went there with the intent to kill someone but it's obvious, from everything that's come to light, that he certainly wasn't opposed to it if he thought it was justified. Too bad for him it wasn't and hopefully he'll spend the rest of his life in jail. I know that's a shitload of optimism considering the political climate at this point.

I feel bad for Lee, this old(er) guy, who had a family and liked to make Western hats and loved his country. He was probably dead before he hit the ground. rip

 

[Dyn]

Commies aren’t people.

Communists are better people than anyone with an anime avatar.

 

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

Communists are better people than anyone with an anime avatar.

That's verifiably false and objectively a stupid thing to say.

 

[Dyn]

That's verifiably false and objectively a stupid thing to say.

Prove it.

 

[John McAfee]

Prove it.

Joseph Stalin: 20 million deaths.
Weeb sperg: 0

 

[Aqua Panda]

Yeah, the shooter is fucked. Nothing from the released photos/videos shows escalation warranting discharge of a weapon. The one picture of him reaching for the mace guy's weapon is also especially damming. Especially after mace guy used an open fist to push him away.

It's looking like mace guy pulled the mace only after the shooter pulled the gun and was using it in an attempt to defend himself.

I get the feeling the shooter got pissy that his "authority" was being ignored and escalated to the point of putting a bullet in a guys brain. If the social media feeds are accurate, then first degree murder is absolutely warrented.

Needle in the arm territory.

Edit: Also, sad that the victim had better understanding of escalation. He never draws his actual weapon and keeps things in non lethal territory even when he has a targeting laser in his eye.

 

[axfaxf]

I get the feeling the shooter got pissy that his "authority" was being ignored and escalated to the point of putting a bullet in a guys brain. If the social media feeds are accurate, then first degree murder is absolutely warrented.

there´s no doubt in my mind, that the unhinged left and by extension MSM, would just loooooooove to be able to retaliate their hurt fee-fees with deadly force. but i REALLY don´t think, they have thought this through. i mean, why would they even start rationalizing their vile behavior at this point, and besides its pretty clear, that these soyboys cant handle guns

 

[Desu Mountain]

https://tw.tinf.io/COsweda/status/1315502498371694592#m

Spoiler: long image

 

[President Joe Biden]

https://tw.tinf.io/COsweda/status/1315502498371694592#m

Spoiler: long image

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"plenty of active-duty trigger pullers are infuriated let them clean up the mess"

The local gun show is on the warpath. The beef jerky guy and the pickle guy will not stand for this grave injustice against one of their own!

I'm surprised that he didn't just come out and say "trust the plan"

 

[Dyn]

Joseph Stalin: 20 million deaths.
Weeb sperg: 0

I agree, 20,000,000:0 k/d is pretty fucking based.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Reading through this thread and looking at this guys social media and private life, I get this sense that he was just waiting to do something like this. He seemed to be heavily involved in activism in his late teens/early 20s but maybe that died down once he got married and started a business, but never really left his mind.

I get the feeling he was slapped around in highschool, probably for being a limpdick soyboy; and he's been waiting ever since then to make up for it.

I feel bad for Lee, this old(er) guy, who had a family and liked to make Western hats and loved his country. He was probably dead before he hit the ground. rip

The way he curled up & fell, yeah. So it was an instant lights out. Small mercy, but at least he didn't die like skaterboi after a 5.56 exploded his heart; likely in shock, but fully aware he was dying.

If I'd known about Mr. Lee's hats back then, I'd definitely have bought one. Sad.

 

[Snekposter]

Prove it.

Local Weeb With Ancestral Blade Kills Commie Scum.

 

[Meth Kennedy]

Local Weeb With Ancestral Blade Kills Commie Scum.

Gotta stop you there buddy, Japs can't be weebs so you are technically wrong.