2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Salubrious]

I really want this to backfire on the dems. "40% of democrats torched their ballots for Corona virus"

Wild conspiracy theory time.

The DNC thinks Trump will win so they pushed mail-in voting so that when hundreds of thousands of votes are DQed for various reasons, the DNC can claim that they would have won "had every vote counted!"

They will then use the fuck up with mail-in voting to claim that Trump fraudulently won the election for the next four years.

They may not have planned this from the beginning, but that's 100% how they will spin a Trump victory. That Biden would have won but Trump sabotaged mail-in votes.

 

[heyitsmike]

So it's going to be more divided between the Bernie fans and the Establishment Democrats along with the Neocons like never before.

I think the Democrats will be too busy fighting among themselves to fight the GOP and this is the main reason why. Not only will the progressives say that the Dems lost by putting up another neoliberal, it will really chap their ass that Trump won with a base turnout strategy.

The tankies are pissed that the DNC is brushing them off in favor of courting NeverTrumpers. They're gonna be so angry that Trump did the opposite, said fuck the middle and fired up his base. They'll say that Biden could have too if only he had supported student loan forgiveness, Medicare for all, abolishing ICE, etc.

If you need somewhere to park your money, guillotine futures are going through the roof.

 

[MrJokerRager]

This is my expected electoral map turnout if Trump's base truly shows up and gets over 70 million votes. The primary numbers look promising and Trump 2020 is giving me Obama 2008 vibes that even thought its a tough election, I believe he can bring it home. White America has not had a white populist candidate in a long ass time, probably the last one was Teddy Roosevelt. And all the post WW2 presidents were polished and professional politicians groomed. It was a different time I guess but looks like things may be changing.

 

[Harvey Danger]

This was demonstrated by the fracture of Democratic Underground, a forum for liberal Democrats. In 2016 the Bernie movement had a huge presence on DU, but the site owners backed Hillary along with the rest of the Dem establishment. They blatantly discriminated against Bernie supporters in moderation, and eventually banned them all from the site, citing sexism and racism, the usual woke sins. The Bernie supporters went to found another forum called Jackpine Radicals. From that point on DU was 100% woke. Before that posters could actually disagree about things like white people being inherently racist.

I didn't know DU fractured and split up, that's hilarious. Haven't followed them in ages; I'm not going to mourn their implosion.

I wonder how much of this is real ideological change, and how much is just the intransigent minority effect in action. Forums with moderators can always be taken over from the top-down, with relatively small amounts of "infiltrators" getting to the top. And when the left adopts an ideological framework that demands consensus instead of compromise, it makes takeovers even easier.

 

[CrippleThreat]

At least Trump is keeping true to his promise to a rally everyday so far now that he's bounced back:
[All of the schedule info is on this site: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/events/]

Yesterday: Sanford, Florida
Today: Johnstown, Pennsylvania
Wednesday: Des Moines, Iowa
Thursday: Greenville, North Carolina
Friday: Ocala, Florida; and Macon, Georgia

*Is Georgia not that favorably secure yet? Trump's internals are not like Joe's, but they are definitely confusing. Plus, his schedule can fit some extra tallies in there. However, let's see what Saturday, Sunday, and the next week brings us!

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To curb Arizona and Rust Belt sperging, here are what Pence and the Trump kids are up to this week:

Vice President Pence is heading to:
Today: Waukesha, Wisconsin (Which is great since a riot occurred there, and Pence is the better orator between Trump and himself.)
Wednesday: Grand Rapids, Michigan

For Eric:
Today: Novi, Michigan; and Northfield, Minnesota
Thursday: Miami, Florida (as a guest at Evangelicals for Trump)

For Don Jr.:
Today: Omaha, Nebraska; and Des Moines, Iowa
Wednesday: Tucson, Arizona; and Las Vegas, Nevada

For Lara:
Today: Newtown Square, Pennsylvania
Wednesday: Boiling Springs, Pennsylvania

...And that's that, thus far.

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I'm not seeing much from the Biden camp thus far, and it's October (when they finally decided to start doing hard campaigning). They're running Biden ragged, since primary losers like Bernie and Liz Warren have to pick up the slack since Kamala has once again hid herself from public view since the VP debates and today's hearing she virtually appeared at (and she was already MIA before that debate). Considering it all, their ground game sucks and it's continued abuse of the elderly. Biden's once again thinking he's running for the Senate and his misremembering of Mitt Romney shows that his fits are come out more since one event was 8 years ago and the other was before I was even born.

Trump has the superior game overall, enough said. Although Trump himself, isn't hitting those crucial spots (save PA, but that's one of his win conditions), others take care of it for him. At least the big man brings the numbers.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I think the Democrats will be too busy fighting among themselves to fight the GOP and this is the main reason why. Not only will the progressives say that the Dems lost by putting up another neoliberal, it will really chap their ass that Trump won with a base turnout strategy.

By Neocons I was referring to the NeverTrump idiots like Rick Wilson and Bill Kristol along with their buddies who are joining the Democrats now given they are not needed in the Republican party anymore.

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

Really liking the electoral map memes being posted here lately, perhaps I should join in?

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Sprints coverage was never this good, pre-merger or not.

 

[heyitsmike]

Trump has the superior game overall, enough said. Although Trump himself, isn't hitting those crucial spots (save PA, but that's one of his win conditions), others take care of it for him.

The obvious guess seems to be he wants to save the more crucial spots for closer to the election. Like I don't believe Pennsylvania has early in person voting. So I'd expect Trump to be there on Halloween or November 1st or 2nd, while it's still fresh in voters minds on election day.

 

[Extremist Frank]

Trump has the superior game overall, enough said. Although Trump himself, isn't hitting those crucial spots (save PA, but that's one of his win conditions), others take care of it for him. At least the big man brings the numbers.

Its better to shore up support in secondary states now so he can focus on the crucial states over the last two weeks while his kids and other surrogates hit up the secondary states. Thom Tillis is in a neck-and-neck reelection bid, but his opponent's marital affair allegations are just coming out so its good for Trump to hit NC hard. He also needs to shore up votes in Florida and, because of the recent Dem spending on Ossoff, in Georgia.

He needs to get these out of the way so he can concentrate on the crucial states: Michigan (both for the general election & to get John James elected to the Senate) and then PA/WI/MN.

 

[Someone Awful]

Like I said, I will hold out on revealing my final map until we see Pennsylvania and Arizona’s final voter registration as well as whenever or not Barrett gets confirmed to the Supreme Court.

Its better to shore up support in secondary states now so he can focus on the crucial states over the last two weeks while his kids and other surrogates hit up the secondary states. Thom Tillis is in a neck-and-neck reelection bid, but his opponent's marital affair allegations are just coming out so its good for Trump to hit NC hard. He also needs to shore up votes in Florida and, because of the recent Dem spending on Ossoff, in Georgia.

He needs to get these out of the way so he can concentrate on the crucial states: Michigan (both for the general election & to get John James elected to the Senate) and then PA/WI/MN.

Basically my thought process.

But he absolutely needs to hit Arizona. The state is trending Democratic overall and while recent voter registrations have been favorable to the GOP, it is still possible that Biden can close the gap enough for a flip. He needs to visit the state at least twice before the election like he planned to do before getting COVID-19. Trump cannot afford to box himself out of Arizona and then have to fight to get two Rust Belt states (or one of them plus Nevada or New Hampshire).

 

[Harvey Danger]

I think the Democrats will be too busy fighting among themselves to fight the GOP and this is the main reason why. Not only will the progressives say that the Dems lost by putting up another neoliberal, it will really chap their ass that Trump won with a base turnout strategy.

The tankies are pissed that the DNC is brushing them off in favor of courting NeverTrumpers. They're gonna be so angry that Trump did the opposite, said fuck the middle and fired up his base. They'll say that Biden could have too if only he had supported student loan forgiveness, Medicare for all, abolishing ICE, etc.

If you need somewhere to park your money, guillotine futures are going through the roof.

The entire Democratic MO right now is to set up multiple excuses for failure, so that they can pin the blame on whoever is convenient.

Trump blowout? Blame the BernieBros, they're sexist and racist.
Trump regular win? Blame the country for being stupid and racist. Blame Biden for being old and racist.
Trump narrow win? Blame the USPS, and Trump's handling of it, which disenfranchised all those votes that were totally coming in if you just extended the deadline another week.

And this setup goes beyond just election scapegoating.

Democratic cities crumbling? Blame greedy rich people who don't pay enough taxes.
Riots in the big cities? Blame white supremacist instigators.
Minorities aren't excelling? Blame racism, oppression, sexism, and all the other -isms
Favorite government program isn't working? Blame lack of funding.
Lost a SCOTUS case? Blame Republican court packing.
Can't get your judges through? Blame Republican obstructionism.
Cant's stop GOP nominees? Blame Democrats nuking the filibuster Republicans for being unseemly

There is no situation where they will let blame fall on their ideology or their authoritarian identity politics. Everyone who's hoping for a party split and a day of reckoning on the left is optimistic in a way that ignores the last 4 years.

The only thing you have to look forward to is their salt.

 

[BlackDragoons]

But he absolutely needs to hit Arizona. The state is trending Democratic overall and while recent voter registrations have been favorable to the GOP, it is still possible that Biden can close the gap enough for a flip. He needs to visit the state at least twice before the election like he planned to do before getting COVID-19. Trump cannot afford to box himself out of Arizona and then have to fight to get two Rust Belt states (or one of them plus Nevada or New Hampshire).

Yeah, the mormon vote would have helped him but he burned that bridge.

 

[JosephStalin]

 

[MrJokerRager]

Well I did a statistics sheet for Bernie in both years. Overall a failure compared to Trump and the DNC basically must have removed the caucuses to fuck Bernie even harder. No going to bother include states after Bernie cucked to Biden on April 8th, 2020.

Bernie failed in the Deep South and Sun Belt. And his idpol switch fucked him hard in the North. And even in California, he won but his numbers were lower. The man had expected reduced enthusiasm. Even if Obama didn't pull the plug, it looks like Bernie was going to lose to Biden in the end.

Here are contests that Bernie campaigned in 2016 and 2020.

Here are the contests with primaries in both 2016 and 2020 separated.

Here are contests with causes in 2016 and 2020.

Here are contests that converted from caucuses to primaries.

Edit: Will do a Trump to Bernie comparison and Trump to Biden as well next.

 

[GuntPunt]

Something interesting is happening in polling Twitter.

Nate Cohn works as a NYT pollster an released a sampling map of Florida a week ago. Baris ripped him a new asshole because how shit his sampling was. Said if he had to release that, he would be embarrassed to even make it public. Here's a spat he had with Cohn's PA and OH map.


Fastforward to now, there's a Wisconsin teenager called Real American Politics that Barnes frequently retweets. He just made a map of how the NYT poll sampling translates to county alignment.
Here's NYT sampling.

And here's the map.

If you don't get the issues, and there's too much to count, its that his samples are only really reaching Democrats in some areas that are blood red, and some other areas are blue, but there's no corrolation. How can Trump win the Iron Range but lose north MN? How can Republican stronghold WOW counties in WI flip 40 points to Biden but he wins Kenosha, a county he won by less than 10% in 2016? How is Iowa that blue if its non-competive Republican hold? Makes no sense. And so on. To exemplify the point, here are the Early vote numbers in one of those "now blue" WOW counties, Waukesha.


Apparently, Barnes and others are bludgeoning Cohn on this shit map and poll dickriders are attacking the kid. Hope Cohn gets the short end of the stick in this altercation.

Now, the point: it shows how batshit insane these polls are made by sampling error. They missed the entire fracking belt in PA, and other large swaths of Trump's base and claim themselves as thorough pollsters. Its a joke that stopped being funny 4 years ago.

 

[2021Murder]

The problem is, Pelosi is right.

This is the thing: Biden and Harris both do better the less people see them. This way they get to be Generic Dem with media cover, which always wins against Generic Rep without.

Honestly I'm a bit sad they didnt think this up sooner.

One of my friends realized a little bit ago talked about how useless gauging the early voting was. So far only like 5% of the total vote has come in. Regardless of how they spin it 100 million people will be voting on election day. The 5 million that turned in early dont really matter.

Also we all know whcih political party left their chads hanging.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Generals you haven't even heard of continue to endorse Biden:

I guess Trump is also winning in Pennsylvania:

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

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I know it's too much to ask of Demoncraps to think, but have none of them thought for a second that constantly showing your candidates with their faces covered by the propaganda muzzles might have an adverse affect? People have a natural instinct to not trust those who's faces they cannot see, not to mention anybody who's sick of the virus regime is only going to be constantly reminded both of it in general and the fact that these two want to keep it going perpetually forever.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

I guess Trump is also winning in Pennsylvania:

Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on these stories, lol.

All these women are doing are regurgitating DNC talking points. "I felt I did a disservice to women" and "I voted for him because I loved The Apprentice!" Okay, I get it: You think that women who voted for Trump are gender betrayers or that they're stupid. Got it. Thanks, CNN.

And I still don't understand how Fentanyl Floyd is in any way connected to Donald Trump. lol. Amazing. Based on how these women were talking, Trump apparently was the one who knelt on Floyd's neck.

 

[CrippleThreat]

I know it's too much to ask of Demoncraps to think, but have none of them thought for a second that constantly showing your candidates with their faces covered by the propaganda muzzles might have an adverse affect? People have a natural instinct to not trust those who's faces they cannot see, not to mention anybody who's sick of the virus regime is only going to be constantly reminded both of it in general and the fact that these two want to keep it going perpetually forever.

Why do you think they had ACB wearing a pitch black mask at her hearing yesterday until she spoke? It's either they rag on about her not wearing a mask, or rag about why she's being appointed?