Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

So, I came across an interesting post on r/ftm today. An announcement of sorts:
(snip)

I'm not surprised at all they moved to Spain. That country is cucking *hard* to the trannies, even being pioneers in allowing legal gender changes "because I identify as such" and barring even asking for a modicum of proof.

Edit: Archive of the article https://archive.fo/9k4RR
 
So, I came across an interesting post on r/ftm today. An announcement of sorts:

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OH NOES!

What sort of wicked transphobic conspiracy could this be?

Well, GenderGP is some sort of online “clinic” for UK troons and is run by this medical hack and her husband:
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This isn’t the first run-in with the authorities for the Webberley’s

As this story shows: https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/helen-mike-webberley-gender-gp-16297750

They were basically running an unlicensed “genderclinic” in Wales, prescribing puberty blockers for 12 year olds.

When the medical authorities found out, they had a shitfit, and promptly fined them and even suspended their license.

How did the Webberleys respond?

They promptly packed their bags and moved to Spain. And through foreign doctors and shady pharmacists kept open the pipeline of horsepiss pills to the mentally ill and confused young teens. This time as “consultants” instead of outright doctors.

Sounds like the authorities finally caught on, and put a stop to their shenanigans. At least until they can find an even shadier pharmacist.

Here’s is an article from last year about the two and their “GenderGP” business.

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Criminals doing illegal things finally getting the boot? Good.

I get that troons don't have insurance (or can't get the insurance that DOES cover horse piss pills) but supporting people that are making money off of young and vulnerable children (during an important developmental point in their lives, no less) is pretty disgusting. Buy it off the dark web. It's not hard. They should focus on destroying their own lives instead of children's lives.
 
Webberley used to be promoted by Mermaids, who are unsurprisingly, memory holing and reverse ferreting as if HBombers hundreds of grands of donations depended on it.

Webberley, H. was initially reported to the GMC by Dr Stuart Lorimer of the NHS’ Charing Cross (adult) gender clinic, as well as his own ‘GenderCare’ private practice, so I doubt it was terves who took out ClearChemist, more likely rival gender doctors again:

Linking to my earlier post in the mermaids thread for the sake of tidy indexing:



lots of discussion on that thread re Bell V Tavistock at the High Court. The three judges have now retired. I can’t WAIT for their written verdict:


edit: here’s the archive of the Times article on ClearChemist that forced the regulators to step in:

The article is a thing of beauty, cold, hard facts, a metaphorical assassins bullet in the head of a gender quack.
 
Some of these millennial 'journalists' need to kill themselves.

This is the not-known-for-being-anti-tranny Independent


> A deal has been struck between the largest private supplier of hormone replacement therapy (HRT) in the UK and a gender clinic to continue the supply of medication after reports that it would cease.

> Clear Chemist announced on Wednesday that it would halt its supply of private prescriptions to GenderGP clinic, an online gender identity service offering support and treatment options to transgender and gender-diverse people, in the midst of media attention on its role.

> The new deal will allow the private prescriptions to continue for some patients – but they will only be able to obtain paper prescriptions, and under-18s taking hormones may face disruption to their treatment.

So Webberley fucked off to Hong Kong or wherever, but she got some poo-in-loo pharmacist to sell the drugs in England


RB Healthcare LTD

Which is not to be confused with Reckitt Beckiser Healthcare Ltd; Reckitt Beckiser are known as RB.

It's Dr. Poo-in-loo's initials, of course

Rishi Bhatia​


Anyway, so there's a deal in place for the Dr. Helen Mengele to sell her titty skittles by post, but you wouldn't know that from some twat publishing on Forbes


Thousands of transgender people have lost access to their medication through a private health service, following an investigation from the U.K.’s pharmacy regulator.

The row ultimately means, thousands of transgender people who rely on the service – some who do so as they wait desperately for NHS support – are facing the coming weeks and months without medication.

“We live in a country petrified about providing trans healthcare.” Dr Helen Webberly, who runs GenderGP tells me.

“This is going to cause real agony and anguish. There could be suicide, self-harm and tragedies.”

Speaking to GenderGP’s patients who have reached out to me, this anguish is evident as they share stories about looking as far to the black market to fill the gap in their medication:

“By GenderGP’s prescribing pharmacy being targeted in this way, this will force me to find a private physician who will prescribe. And then [I will] probably have to purchase my medications through the black market, which is incredibly dangerous.” Jamie tells me, who is currently on a waiting list over two years long.

GenderGP is currently advising their patients where they can access alternative medicines here.

Trans advocacy charity Gendered Intelligence is advising anyone at risk of losing their medications to make an appointment with a GP to get a bridging prescription. The charity added on social media:

“They have a duty to continue your prescription until you’re seen by a GIC, including monitoring with blood tests.”

This is outlined in the guidance provided by the General Medical Council in 2018. It says that accessing private care should have no impact on U.K. patients access to gender identity services under the NHS. GPs should also “cooperate with Gender Identity Clinics and other gender specialists by prescribing medications.”

Further adding that it may be appropriate to offer a prescription, even if so far they’ve been seeking the medication from unregulated sources. This is advised in cases “where the prescription is intended to mitigate a risk of self-harm and is supported by appropriate specialist advice.”


So the tranny charity says that trannies should go and harass their doctors and tell them they have a right to get their tranny crack presribed by them, no questions asked, because a crook in Spain, or Hong Kong, or somewhere, prescribed it already.
 
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The one about an inch above your arsehole?
No.
No it isn’t.

and neither is that massive bulgy blood blister-thingy....

 
Some of these millennial 'journalists' need to kill themselves.

This is the not-known-for-being-anti-tranny Independent


> A deal has been struck between the largest private supplier of hormone replacement therapy (HRT) in the UK and a gender clinic to continue the supply of medication after reports that it would cease.

> Clear Chemist announced on Wednesday that it would halt its supply of private prescriptions to GenderGP clinic, an online gender identity service offering support and treatment options to transgender and gender-diverse people, in the midst of media attention on its role.

> The new deal will allow the private prescriptions to continue for some patients – but they will only be able to obtain paper prescriptions, and under-18s taking hormones may face disruption to their treatment.

So Webberley fucked off to Hong Kong or wherever, but she got some poo-in-loo pharmacist to sell the drugs in England


RB Healthcare LTD

Which is not to be confused with Reckitt Beckiser Healthcare Ltd; Reckitt Beckiser are known as RB.

It's Dr. Poo-in-loo's initials, of course

Rishi Bhatia​


Anyway, so there's a deal in place for the Dr. Helen Mengele to sell her titty skittles by post, but you wouldn't know that from some twat publishing on Forbes


Thousands of transgender people have lost access to their medication through a private health service, following an investigation from the U.K.’s pharmacy regulator.

The row ultimately means, thousands of transgender people who rely on the service – some who do so as they wait desperately for NHS support – are facing the coming weeks and months without medication.

“We live in a country petrified about providing trans healthcare.” Dr Helen Webberly, who runs GenderGP tells me.

“This is going to cause real agony and anguish. There could be suicide, self-harm and tragedies.”

Speaking to GenderGP’s patients who have reached out to me, this anguish is evident as they share stories about looking as far to the black market to fill the gap in their medication:

“By GenderGP’s prescribing pharmacy being targeted in this way, this will force me to find a private physician who will prescribe. And then [I will] probably have to purchase my medications through the black market, which is incredibly dangerous.” Jamie tells me, who is currently on a waiting list over two years long.

GenderGP is currently advising their patients where they can access alternative medicines here.

Trans advocacy charity Gendered Intelligence is advising anyone at risk of losing their medications to make an appointment with a GP to get a bridging prescription. The charity added on social media:

“They have a duty to continue your prescription until you’re seen by a GIC, including monitoring with blood tests.”

This is outlined in the guidance provided by the General Medical Council in 2018. It says that accessing private care should have no impact on U.K. patients access to gender identity services under the NHS. GPs should also “cooperate with Gender Identity Clinics and other gender specialists by prescribing medications.”

Further adding that it may be appropriate to offer a prescription, even if so far they’ve been seeking the medication from unregulated sources. This is advised in cases “where the prescription is intended to mitigate a risk of self-harm and is supported by appropriate specialist advice.”


So the tranny charity says that trannies should go and harass their doctors and tell them they have a right to get their tranny crack presribed by them, no questions asked, because a crook in Spain, or Hong Kong, or somewhere, prescribed it already.

I've said it before but the "mitigation of self harm" argument is so cocksucking stupid it physically hurts me. If we start agreeing as a society that "do x/give me x or I will kill myself" is ever a valid, acceptable fucking argument then the Unabomber was actually right about a lot of shit. So far it only really flies for troons, which is especially fucked up because of the abysmal success rate of "sex changes" - which is zero obviously, but if you want to class "success" as the troon being generally perceived by others as the desired sex, no medical complications or deformities, and no longer having any psychological body issues, it's still abysmally low. The absolute last people who should be giving in to the suicide baiting bullshit is the medical community, you joke about tranny crack but this really is exactly like a doctor giving free, unlimited crack to any addict because they'll get the sads if they aren't smoking rocks and god forbid they might get poor quality crack on the black market (and crack use is arguably less harmful). Even if someone actually does intend to follow through on a suicide threat it doesn't mean you have to do what they fucking say, people with BPD do it all the time (and they often mean it) yet you don't see them getting taxpayer funded cosmetic surgeries, drugs, or whatever fucking bullshit they demand - they get the cops called and they're thrown in a psych hold, every time, until they learn to stop fucking doing it. If an abusive, manipulative, mentally ill person says to a partner "don't leave me or I'll kill myself" does anyone blame the partner if they actually do? Fuck no they don't because everyone knows that's a bullshit tactic.

tl;dr - only in actual clown world would a doctor shit up someone's endocrine system until it's basically the Ganges, carve their dick inside out and staple the remains of it to their taint, then charge it to insurance... in order to "mitigate a risk of self-harm."
 
There are now SRS surgeons doing penis-sparing vaginoplasty, allowing troons to have a neovagina created while keeping their penis. Making surgery easier to obtain would just lead to more freakish surgeries.

This link is to photos of revisions done on the work of other surgeons.


Case 2 was the OP of this thread on Susan's Place



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Suporn's clinic manager found the OP's thread and her response was hostile, to say the least.

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I have vague memories that that specific Belgrade surgeon is one of the better ones. More experienced than most and advocates for lots of therapy before SRS, and is known to refuse troons for the surgery if he thinks they'll regret it. I think he's also the surgeon of choice for detransition surgeries.

I gotta find sauce for these memories. I think he was in a documentary I watched talking about detransitioners?
Plus, you can’t get a tattoo til your are 18 and some ‘transboys’ have had double mastectomy at 13!

And to my mind there is a clear distinction between modification/augmentation and amputation.

Even the monstrous cosmetic surgery nut jobs usually achieve that monstrosity incrementally (giving each new surgeon a bit more plausible deniability, because it’s not ALL their fault). These poor fucks get their tits/penis cut off in one go and there is no going back nor going forward (because trans surgeons largely refuse to fix other surgeons work).

One of the few who does revisions is Marci Bowers. Unfortunately, Bowers’ revision of Rumer‘s work on Hannah Simpson just made a different type of revolting hole:

Yo what the fuck. This is actually the worst one I've seen. The first one has a visible cock in it and the red rocket in that second one looks fucking painful. That thing is sticking straight out. How does he go about his day with the butchered remains of his dick rubbing against his underwear constantly?
This group of surgeons absolutely are that tight-knit. And they're completely invested in not a single one of them having any kind of court appearance or settlement; they do not want that door to open an inch, because it'll become a flood.

They've mismanaged expectations among their patients so badly, that yes, it's malpractice.

Telling someone they'll have a "fully functional" penis or vagina is completely misrepresenting any possible surgical outcome and is a strong basis for a lawsuit, by itself.

Since the NHS in the UK has sane doctors and there are a handful of sane ones in the US, you'd think those doctors would speak up. This is how we know how tight-knit they are. Urologists are not the first choice for these people, they do sneer at "be in therapy, this won't be perfect, it's dangerous" pre-surgical stuff. Yet even those doctors don't want to say a word about it.

It's pressure to keep silence about bad aftereffects, complications, and sequelae to these surgeries and patients, who have very few choices, do what they're told. Urologists and plastic surgeons involved in this sphere, do what they're told. They may be willing to do "revisions" but it's true that they'll be flying blind.
They're all covering their ass, no more.
I would love to see examples of urologist work vs plastic surgeon work tbh. Do these relatively sane NHS SRS surgeons have examples online somewhere?
 
I for one have really enjoyed repeatedly hearing that SRS is fine and offers no more risks than other "standard" surgeries during my time at med school thus far, while simultaneously being inculcated that all health outcome differences between demographics are purely due to social determinants/that there are absolutely no biologic differences between races to be aware of medically such as genetic disorders, bone marrow transplants, etc.

Thanks for making this thread - will watch with great interest.
lol (but also not surprised, but horrified.)
Ask them :
why eGFR needs a yes no tick box for race (black African origin vs other.)
Why some ethnic groups have beneficial mutations like high altitude changes to physiology in Sherpas and populations native to places like la paz
Why arctic natives have a venous flush response. Etc. There are a million differences. Covid alone should give you ammo to talk about sex based immune system differences


So, I came across an interesting post on r/ftm today. An announcement of sorts:
View attachment 1649317

OH NOES!

What sort of wicked transphobic conspiracy could this be?

Well, GenderGP is some sort of online “clinic” for UK troons and is run by this medical hack and her husband:
View attachment 1649307

This isn’t the first run-in with the authorities for the Webberley’s

As this story shows: https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/helen-mike-webberley-gender-gp-16297750

They were basically running an unlicensed “genderclinic” in Wales, prescribing puberty blockers for 12 year olds.

When the medical authorities found out, they had a shitfit, and promptly fined them and even suspended their license.

How did the Webberleys respond?

They promptly packed their bags and moved to Spain. And through foreign doctors and shady pharmacists kept open the pipeline of horsepiss pills to the mentally ill and confused young teens. This time as “consultants” instead of outright doctors.

Sounds like the authorities finally caught on, and put a stop to their shenanigans. At least until they can find an even shadier pharmacist.

Here’s is an article from last year about the two and their “GenderGP” business.

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I think I broke the actual numbers down on the susie green amd mermaids thread - they were making a couple of million quid a year charging 150-200 quid a pop for an appointment (should be free to see your GP in the Uk remember) and taking a few seconds to write prescriptions. While I’m very glad they have lost their prescribing ability, they should IMo be facing actual criminal charges. You cannot write a prescription safely like that (one was done in 17 etc or something horrific like that.)
When the lawsuits start rolling in, and they will, I hope the Webberleys are at the front of the naughty queue
 
How come the price for these operations is up instead of down? shouldnt more doctors to choose from drive the cost down? Or is there some kind of regulation keeping it from happening? I always here about trannies having financial problems because of saving up for these surgeries.
 
How come the price for these operations is up instead of down? shouldnt more doctors to choose from drive the cost down? Or is there some kind of regulation keeping it from happening? I always here about trannies having financial problems because of saving up for these surgeries.

There are still only a small number of doctors overall. There's not one in every city, by any means. They're not going to sabotage their own incomes by under-cutting one another when they all get more business than they can handle charging whatever the market will bear.
 
How come the price for these operations is up instead of down? shouldnt more doctors to choose from drive the cost down? Or is there some kind of regulation keeping it from happening? I always here about trannies having financial problems because of saving up for these surgeries.

I did a quick search and checked what SRS roughly costs compared to other surgeries and it's actually not as disproportionately expensive as I expected. It ranges from 10k to 50k, as compared to a gall bladder removal costing 24k to 32k, or a heart bypass costing 40k. The inpatient stay is kind of long too and there's obviously no minimally invasive method.

Sources:

SRS is a pretty damned complicated operation. The person needs to be kept under for a long time, and they aren't just modifying, mending, removing, or augmenting an existing structure like most surgeries do - they're straight up trying to create something that isn't meant to be there. Different doctors use different techniques, the big name docs are presumably big names for a reason, probably because they got really good at one specific method, or maybe they innovated or advanced it. If they're in high demand and have people coming from all over to book them, they'll charge accordingly. Tellingly, I can't find any data on the rate of complications or revisions, and we know anecdotally that even relatively good results (i.e. basic function, no necrosis, and could pass if you saw them naked for a few seconds in your peripheral vision) still look like horror shows a lot of the time, so success is subjective. Considering some of the butchery we've seen from even the best and most expensive doctors, the suspiciously cheap overseas clinics must turn out some real fucking doozies. Maybe they steal some organs while they're in there. (Really though if that becomes a news story I fucking called it)
 
I did a quick search and checked what SRS roughly costs compared to other surgeries and it's actually not as disproportionately expensive as I expected. It ranges from 10k to 50k, as compared to a gall bladder removal costing 24k to 32k, or a heart bypass costing 40k. The inpatient stay is kind of long too and there's obviously no minimally invasive method.

Sources:

SRS is a pretty damned complicated operation. The person needs to be kept under for a long time, and they aren't just modifying, mending, removing, or augmenting an existing structure like most surgeries do - they're straight up trying to create something that isn't meant to be there. Different doctors use different techniques, the big name docs are presumably big names for a reason, probably because they got really good at one specific method, or maybe they innovated or advanced it. If they're in high demand and have people coming from all over to book them, they'll charge accordingly. Tellingly, I can't find any data on the rate of complications or revisions, and we know anecdotally that even relatively good results (i.e. basic function, no necrosis, and could pass if you saw them naked for a few seconds in your peripheral vision) still look like horror shows a lot of the time, so success is subjective. Considering some of the butchery we've seen from even the best and most expensive doctors, the suspiciously cheap overseas clinics must turn out some real fucking doozies. Maybe they steal some organs while they're in there. (Really though if that becomes a news story I fucking called it)
They're big names because they're willing to experiment and make promises that they can't keep.
 
I have vague memories that that specific Belgrade surgeon is one of the better ones. More experienced than most and advocates for lots of therapy before SRS, and is known to refuse troons for the surgery if he thinks they'll regret it. I think he's also the surgeon of choice for detransition surgeries.

I gotta find sauce for these memories. I think he was in a documentary I watched talking about detransitioners?

Yo what the fuck. This is actually the worst one I've seen. The first one has a visible cock in it and the red rocket in that second one looks fucking painful. That thing is sticking straight out. How does he go about his day with the butchered remains of his dick rubbing against his underwear constantly?

I would love to see examples of urologist work vs plastic surgeon work tbh. Do these relatively sane NHS SRS surgeons have examples online somewhere?

There are a couple of older images on Bellringer’s site. Healed, tho:


The NHS names to look out for are James Bellringer, Phillip Thomas, Tina Rashid, Charles Coker, Roland Morely and Oliver Fenton (Fenton is on the cusp of retirement so not taking on any new patients). They are all urologists. Bellringer and Thomas are the main two and they taught most of the others,

Christopher Inglefield is a UK based plastics surgeon who also does it, but not under the NHS (ie patients have to pay themselves for the whole thing). He charges twice as much as the NHS urologists do in their own part time private practice, and once you get to Inglefield’s price point you can combine it with a month long Thai holiday and have change over, so he does more mastectomy and brow shaving stuff.




You should find links to all of them via here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Transgender_Surgeries/wiki/srs/europe



There is only one UK surgical team that makes frankenpeen, ’St Peter’s Andrology’. They are a private service that the NHS commissions, the NHS doesn’t directly employ anyone to do phalloplasty.


They fucked up recently...



edit: I recently heard that this dude will cut your balls off for a few grand, no questions asked (and he certainly doesn’t advertise it!):

 
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So, I came across an interesting post on r/ftm today. An announcement of sorts:

View attachment 1649317

OH NOES!

What sort of wicked transphobic conspiracy could this be?

Well, GenderGP is some sort of online “clinic” for UK troons and is run by this medical hack and her husband:
View attachment 1649307

This isn’t the first run-in with the authorities for the Webberley’s

As this story shows: https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/helen-mike-webberley-gender-gp-16297750

They were basically running an unlicensed “genderclinic” in Wales, prescribing puberty blockers for 12 year olds.

When the medical authorities found out, they had a shitfit, and promptly fined them and even suspended their license.

How did the Webberleys respond?

They promptly packed their bags and moved to Spain. And through foreign doctors and shady pharmacists kept open the pipeline of horsepiss pills to the mentally ill and confused young teens. This time as “consultants” instead of outright doctors.

Sounds like the authorities finally caught on, and put a stop to their shenanigans. At least until they can find an even shadier pharmacist.

Here’s is an article from last year about the two and their “GenderGP” business.

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Doesn't surprise me in the slightest, I had dealings with these hacks and it was rediciously easy to get hormones without truly understanding the consequences.

They didn't even spend much time actually seeing if I was trans, just a couple of forms and money

A fair bit of money get them
 
There are a couple of older images on Bellringer’s site. Healed, tho:


The NHS names to look out for are James Bellringer, Phillip Thomas, Tina Rashid, Charles Coker, Roland Morely and Oliver Fenton (Fenton is on the cusp of retirement so not taking on any new patients). They are all urologists. Bellringer and Thomas are the main two and they taught most of the others,

Christopher Inglefield is a UK based plastics surgeon who also does it, but not under the NHS (ie patients have to pay themselves for the whole thing). He charges twice as much as the NHS urologists do in their own part time private practice, and once you get to Inglefield’s price point you can combine it with a month long Thai holiday and have change over, so he does more mastectomy and brow shaving stuff.




You should find links to all of them via here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Transgender_Surgeries/wiki/srs/europe



There is only one UK surgical team that makes frankenpeen, ’St Peter’s Andrology’. They are a private service that the NHS commissions, the NHS doesn’t directly employ anyone to do phalloplasty.


They fucked up recently...



edit: I recently heard that this dude will cut your balls off for a few grand, no questions asked (and he certainly doesn’t advertise it!):

Oh those Bellringer ones look a lot better than most. They don't look normal by any means but they're in the realm of "oh that looks sort of weird" and "well that's an enormous scar" rather than the existential dread and body horror of most stinkditches. Who knows if they have less nerve damage or whatever, but it's actually kind of funny that plastic surgeons are significantly worse at making something look superficially normal.
 
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