ContraPoints / William Nicholas Parrott / Natalie Wynn Parrott / Nykytyne2 - GamerGhazi Cannibalism Victim, Youtube "Intellectual"

[Nykysnottrans]

Before I forget, cross-posting this here from the Blaire White thread (because the lecture features both Blaire and Nyk):

Transgender Micro-celebrities as Minority Activists: How Broadcasting the Self is Political

This is a recording of my presentation for the 70th Annual International Communications Conference.

This paper details a field study of two transgender women who have garnered an online audience for their political ideologies through micro-celebrity practices. To study their practices online, their Twitter accounts and several YouTube videos produced by each pertaining to transgender topics were examined using Raun’s framework for micro-celebrity practices based on his observations of a trans feminine blogger on YouTube. The observed content was then examined through a political activist lens using framework from Daskal on digital rights activism to note how their micro-celebrity practices are a form of digital activism.

 

[FlaccidSnake]

He won't kill himself, he's too narcissistic to do it. Nyk is a very broken mentally ill person who has been broken for a very long time. Like you wrote above, transitioning is not going to fix Nyk. It's only going to make everything worse and make him feel even more like shit than he already does. I am not going to sit here pretending that Nyk is getting better just because he's a millionaire on Patreon. Fuck Harry, fuck Ellis, fuck Jenny, fuck VICE, fuck Oliver, fuck Theryn, fuck Chelsea, fuck Riley, fuck them all for reinforcing this shit. I can't wait to watch these fake-ass people cry their crocodile tears at Nyk's funeral and brag about how they all once knew (and/or fucked) the famous ContraPoints when "she" was still alive. What they will never admit or consider is the idea that they themselves helped Nyk with killing that "she". Every time they said "she", they helped drive and twist the knife deeper and deeper. Nyk himself put that knife there but these slimy people are helping him finish the job he's slowly performing on himself.

You're right, he just keeps getting the attention he craves in exchange for being a political pawn for the mainstream media, or a brave diverse friend for those who colaborate with him, or even a comforting "femenine penis" for those who are just as lost as he is. It'll just kill Nyk and turn Contra into a walking husk with a nice coat of exotic makeup and flashy costumes, all kept in one piece thanks to alcohol and fake kindness from strangers.

 

[Nykysnottrans]

The cult-members testify: I changed my life because of ContraPoints

What strikes me about this video is the way they reduce BreadTube content to presentation. They don't talk about BreadTube resources. Most BreadTubers don't even bother to list their resources to allow their audiences to fact-check what they are saying. I know Oliver makes sure to list his - and they are so numerous that I am pretty sure he's only skimmed through most of the sources he lists - but Nyk plagiarizes content left and right with no reference given whatsoever - see the example given in this thread of the part about The Punisher in the Justice I video being stolen from another Youtuber. The fact that their cult leader doesn't list his sources doesn't seem to bother these two guys at all, as they still think they are engaged in "learning" by watching his videos. The trannie says that he's retaerdid and doesn't understand long words, but he still wants to watch ContraPoints and feel like he's learning while readily admitting he's not even capable of actually understanding what he's watching. They don't even know HOW to assess information for accuracy or reliability but assume BreadTube information is reliable just because it's "high production values" and "difficult words".

 

[FlaccidSnake]

The cult-members testify: I changed my life because of ContraPoints

What strikes me about this video is the way they reduce BreadTube content to presentation. They don't talk about BreadTube resources. Most BreadTubers don't even bother to list their resources to allow their audiences to fact-check what they are saying. I know Oliver makes sure to list his - and they are so numerous that I am pretty sure he's only skimmed through most of the sources he lists - but Nyk plagiarizes content left and right with no reference given whatsoever - see the example given in this thread of the part about The Punisher in the Justice I video being stolen from another Youtuber. The fact that their cult leader doesn't list his sources doesn't seem to bother these two guys at all, as they still think they are engaged in "learning" by watching his videos. The trannie says that he's retaerdid and doesn't understand long words, but he still wants to watch ContraPoints and feel like he's learning while readily admitting he's not even capable of actually understanding what he's watching. They don't even know HOW to assess information for accuracy or reliability but assume BreadTube information is reliable just because it's "high production values" and "difficult words".

Man that's scary, both ends of the political spectrum are more based upon a necessity to be right than a search for what is right through actual discourse. And when you look at these people, or at alt righters, you get to see how much of their being, their whole personality is based on their ideology, so if the ideology is wrong, their own existance is wrong. They avoid references, and open discussions because they know it's gonna make them look foolish and lost.

Cuntra is just the greatest example, a failed philosopher that couldn't cope with the exigencies of real academia, uses big complicated words and foreign terms to justify his points without actually making any sense (I remember hearing him use "das Ewig-Weibliche" in a very bad german, to justify why he's a woman), a lot of quality over content, straw men everywhere, even if they use research, they don't truly understand it or take the time to contact someone who know to comprehend what is going on.

You are quite right about the production value and the wordy stuff above the actual discourse. But what I hate is how when they try to use actual facts they do it like idiots, I once saw Shaun and Sargon go at each other reading a scientific paper about statistics I think, and they read it as if it was gospel without knowing anything about the math behind statistics, or the way the paper was made, or the scientific method, they just arrived at their own conclusions throught their biases.

 

[crappy_dinosaur]

Man that's scary, both ends of the political spectrum are more based upon a necessity to be right than a search for what is right through actual discourse. And when you look at these people, or at alt righters, you get to see how much of their being, their whole personality is based on their ideology, so if the ideology is wrong, their own existance is wrong. They avoid references, and open discussions because they know it's gonna make them look foolish and lost.

Cuntra is just the greatest example, a failed philosopher that couldn't cope with the exigencies of real academia, uses big complicated words and foreign terms to justify his points without actually making any sense (I remember hearing him use "das Ewig-Weibliche" in a very bad german, to justify why he's a woman), a lot of quality over content, straw men everywhere, even if they use research, they don't truly understand it or take the time to contact someone who know to comprehend what is going on.

You are quite right about the production value and the wordy stuff above the actual discourse. But what I hate is how when they try to use actual facts they do it like idiots, I once saw Shaun and Sargon go at each other reading a scientific paper about statistics I think, and they read it as if it was gospel without knowing anything about the math behind statistics, or the way the paper was made, or the scientific method, they just arrived at their own conclusions throught their biases.

Yeah, I think people try to find at least one scientific paper to back up their ideology, I guess it’s not about the truth it’s about pleasing themselves, even if they don’t really understand, just to know that it’s backing them up is enough and that’s also the point of talking about that with a person that shates your opinion, they will be just licking each other's ass. It would be interesting if this kind of people have an open debate.

 

[Anti Fun Aktion]

The cult-members testify: I changed my life because of ContraPoints

What strikes me about this video is the way they reduce BreadTube content to presentation. They don't talk about BreadTube resources. Most BreadTubers don't even bother to list their resources to allow their audiences to fact-check what they are saying. I know Oliver makes sure to list his - and they are so numerous that I am pretty sure he's only skimmed through most of the sources he lists - but Nyk plagiarizes content left and right with no reference given whatsoever - see the example given in this thread of the part about The Punisher in the Justice I video being stolen from another Youtuber. The fact that their cult leader doesn't list his sources doesn't seem to bother these two guys at all, as they still think they are engaged in "learning" by watching his videos. The trannie says that he's retaerdid and doesn't understand long words, but he still wants to watch ContraPoints and feel like he's learning while readily admitting he's not even capable of actually understanding what he's watching. They don't even know HOW to assess information for accuracy or reliability but assume BreadTube information is reliable just because it's "high production values" and "difficult words".

"Wow guyz, FLASHY COLORS AND BIG WORDS, this stuff sounds so deeeeep. Hey u seen that new philosophy tube video? He wore cool costumes and said smart things." Comrade Lenin does not approve you lumpenproles.

 

[El Sátiro Sordo]

Man that's scary, both ends of the political spectrum are more based upon a necessity to be right than a search for what is right through actual discourse. And when you look at these people, or at alt righters, you get to see how much of their being, their whole personality is based on their ideology, so if the ideology is wrong, their own existance is wrong. They avoid references, and open discussions because they know it's gonna make them look foolish and lost.

Cuntra is just the greatest example, a failed philosopher that couldn't cope with the exigencies of real academia, uses big complicated words and foreign terms to justify his points without actually making any sense (I remember hearing him use "das Ewig-Weibliche" in a very bad german, to justify why he's a woman), a lot of quality over content, straw men everywhere, even if they use research, they don't truly understand it or take the time to contact someone who know to comprehend what is going on.

You are quite right about the production value and the wordy stuff above the actual discourse. But what I hate is how when they try to use actual facts they do it like idiots, I once saw Shaun and Sargon go at each other reading a scientific paper about statistics I think, and they read it as if it was gospel without knowing anything about the math behind statistics, or the way the paper was made, or the scientific method, they just arrived at their own conclusions throught their biases.

Nyk understands propaganda. He made a video back in the day in which he explores why Milo Yiannopoulos was so popular compared to people like Anita Sarkeessian . He noted that Anita was all message, all politics, but no aesthetics. Milo was the opposite; all style with no substance. Nyk then concludes that this is an age of spectacle, not reason, and that for that reason one most treat the "free market of ideas" as a circus, not a forum.

It shouldn't surprise anyone that the breadtube formula relies on this.

 

[hundredpercent]

Nyk understands propaganda. He made a video back in the day in which he explores why Milo Yiannopoulos was so popular compared to people like Anita Sarkeessian . He noted that Anita was all message, all politics, but no aesthetics. Milo was the opposite; all style with no substance. Nyk then concludes that this is an age of spectacle, not reason, and that for that reason one most treat the "free market of ideas" as a circus, not a forum.

It shouldn't surprise anyone that the breadtube formula relies on this.

The BreadTube formula doesn't rely on this at all. It's all leftists making videos targeted at other leftists, because that's much less challenging than actually trying to convince a hostile audience.

 

[Cuck Shack]

The cult-members testify: I changed my life because of ContraPoints

I don't get the cult of personality worshipping Nyk. He has the charisma of a wet sponge and is not attractive. Do Nyk's orbiters think he will carve out a place for them in breadtube and make them internet famous? Or do they really want his feminine penis? Maybe both? The mind boggles.

 

[Shaka Brah]

The BreadTube formula doesn't rely on this at all. It's all leftists making videos targeted at other leftists, because that's much less challenging than actually trying to convince a hostile audience.

Right, it's just Contra that does the Milo bit. Except where he gets it wrong is that Milo appeared constantly in public to make that image for himself. He was out on the street and in people's faces making himself a hot topic. Contra is locked up in his hovel and no amount of aesthetics can match actual in-person charisma.

 

[hundredpercent]

I don't get the cult of personality worshipping Nyk. He has the charisma of a wet sponge and is not attractive. Do Nyk's orbiters think he will carve out a place for them in breadtube and make them internet famous? Or do they really want his feminine penis? Maybe both? The mind boggles.

He looks good for a tranny, and is reasonably intelligent. With the low standards of BreadTube in mind, that's a big deal. His old videos before he went on HRT were actually worth watching. You have to keep in mind who he's competing with:
- Vaush
- Destiny
- Thought Slime
- Shawn
- Ridley Grace Roshong

 

[Rand /pol/]

 

[El Sátiro Sordo]

Hearing him say "nya" causes me excruciating pain, but I do agree with Nyk on this one.

Asking his followers to stop larping and take a sensible position is good. However, one can't stop thinking about how performative their believes must be when you have to tell them that voting is not about what is good, but about what is best. And yes, his comments on libs and the Kamala memes are spot on.

 

[FlaccidSnake]

Good old cuntra, got two minutes into the video, and I couldn't keep going, too much expensive makeup and "classy" clothes trying to disguise a man's body into something passable (?), too many "woah dudes I'm totally not a depressed, middle age alcoholic dude, I am being sarcastic about it" jokes, way too much 4-D chess trying to use terrorism, corona virus and previous presidencies to justify Nyk's Trump derangement syndrome. I may try some other time while being stoned or bored, but it's hard.

Although the production value is a 10 out of 10, totally made me sell my soul to the democrats and let Biden's corpse be the next president and Kamala turn Antifa into a branch of the military.

 

[Water-T]

He looks good for a tranny, and is reasonably intelligent. With the low standards of BreadTube in mind, that's a big deal. His old videos before he went on HRT were actually worth watching. You have to keep in mind who he's competing with:
- Vaush
- Destiny
- Thought Slime
- Shawn
- Ridley Grace Roshong

Not to mention bloated drunk Lindsay Ellis and balding soyboy Hbomberguy.

 

[Mister Dodo]

Not to mention bloated drunk Lindsay Ellis and balding soyboy Hbomberguy.

Not to mention shoe0nhead, if they'll even let her into the club.

 

[Troonwhisperer]

I think this video (and some before) show that Nyk's rise to fame is slowely but surely dwindling. Youtube's "queen" made how many videos in this year, four or five? + This video is not more than 23 minutes long, whereas in his best days his videos were at least 30 minutes (and often longer). This is the first video in this year I've watched from Nyk and I couldn't watch more than the first five minutes. His aesthetic is now predictable or just boring (like in this video) + it will get more and more difficult for him to hide behind his aesthetic. This is probably also the reason why this is one of few videos that remind me a bit of pre-transition Nyk: This video is shorter, the aesthetic is boring, but there is actually more substance than in 2018 and 2019 Nyk. This of course doesn't change the fact that most of his arguments are just stolen from other people and seasoned with some "nyas" and alcoholism. For people who don't want to watch it, here's a summary for the first five minutes. I actually wanted to do it for the whole video, but I just couldn't do it.

00.10: Predictable sigh at the beginning (It's so tedious to be a Youtube star!) and referting to the fans as "children" (typical condescending Nyk, but as we all know his fans are mostly young male who are looking for a tranny figure to look up to)

00.37: Typical alcoholism of Nyk

00.42: Mentions the "plague", quarantine, "oppressive policing", "rising tide of fascim". What have those things to do with you, Nyk? And rising tide of facism? It's unbelievable that progressives still think Trump is this enormous endangerment to their beloved democracy. In the last four years Trump transformed from a populist to your garden-variety republican. Today Trump mostly talks about economics on his rallies. But I'm sure somehow economics is still a dog whistle for racism, anti-semitism and transphobia, right?

01:00: Virtue signaling about the plague: "Trump killed 200'000 people!"

01.30: Talks about how he was a Bernie Sanders supporter (Nothing says working class more than being a rich troon on YouTube) and wished to be more vocal about it.

1.40: Trump bad! Vote for Biden! He cries about leftist twitter users and how they will accuse him of being a radlib because he'll vote for Biden.

02:13: retarded "Nyaa!"

02:50: Bashing America: "America is so great even the floor is made out of poison!" Again Nyk, how much money do you make a year?

03:00: Vote for Biden not because he's good, but because Trump is evil! (Choose the lesser evil!)

04:00: Reponds to the claim that Trump and Biden are basically the same, the same way people said that Clinton and Trump are the same in 2016 and lists some arguments why Hilary would have been better:

Evil Trump stuff:

Filing the surpreme court with anti-abortion fanatics

Withdrawing from the Paris agreement (Which means what? The Paris agreement was nothing more than a symbol and didn't force any country to actually do something. But well, Nyk's all but aesthetic)

Appointing climate change deniers to head climate research (The president of the USA doesn't appoint who heads climate research. For example the most important climate research orgnaisation in the world is IPCC and includes climate researchers from all over the world. Interestingly if you read some reports of the IPCC they are rarely as alarmist as climate activists make them to be. For example many IPCC climate researchers support nucear energy, something you would never hear of adherents of the New Green Deal)

Attempting to remove medical non-discrimination protections for trans people ("Attempted", did it work? With the exception of the military ban for trans people nothing changed in the law. Most horrific stories about "erasing trans people" were just overblown or outright fake)

Constantly malinging the integrity of the elections with no evidence? (Who propagated the russia gate conspiracy for four years again?)

Declaring the press the enemy of the people (Well, without reason?)

Calling white nationalist militias "very fine people" and telling them to "stand by" (Still a lie, but who cares?)

Aspiring to be an autocratic dictator and disdaining democracy itself (Again, what changed in the American constitution? Which law reform turned America to a dictatorship? In Turkey there was actually reason to believe that Erdogan transformed Turkey to a dictatorship, because he actually CHANGED fundamental laws in Turkey. Furthermore America was never intended to be a democracy, but a republic. Full and direct democracy in the USA with so many different ethnic groups would be a disaster. At least democratization didn't end well in my mother's former homeland Yugoslavia)

Triviliazing a deadly pandemic in the name of delusional macho posturing (The only point with some truth, even though we still don't know how deadly this pandemic actually is)


Most of these points are almost completely aesthetic and didn't really impact America's "democracy". Nyk of course doesn't mention other points that might be of interest:

- Trump didn't start a new war (Might change if he gets reelected, but it's true for now)

- Trump was never anti-LGBT. He was actually one of the first people to support a civil union for homosexual couples when Hillary and Biden were still raging homophobes.

- Trump might have been wrong about COVID and really killed people with his policies, but do we just ignore how many people were killed by wars that were endorsed and even pushed by Hillary?

- It's strange that beloved progressive demographics like black + latino and gay voters are much more evenly split between Trump and Biden now than in the last elections during the last three decades. Most of them are still loyal democratic voters (and I don't really blame them), but it's puzzling to me how the most evil and fascist president of history can win more latino and gay votes than republican presidents/candidates before.


After five minutes I stopped watching the video because the arguments are the same ones you hear on Twitter everyday. I know that even my comments for all the arguments Nyk made are unnecessary, since they really aren't new. I'm not a fan of Trump, but Trump derangement syndrom just really exhausts me by now. That's why I sometimes hope that Biden actually wins. America is declining and neither Trump nor Biden will change that. Trying to fix a sinking ship on the open sea is futile, evacuation is the only meaningful thing you can do.

 

[Contrapoints Archive]

Contrapoints is Liberalpoints

 

[LizCurly89]

I think what struck me is how lazy this video is. Not only was Contra not bothered enough to stretch this to 30mins like they usually do, there were also no trademark costume or set changes. A lack of substantial arguments backed up by research means that this can be certifiably classified as little more than a standard Breadtube video.

It's really just an opining rant video with very minimal additions of graphics and videos. In terms of actial content, there's nothing remotely controversial or even remarkable in anything they say. It's pretty milquetoast and bland, even for Contra. The lack of wit and humor serves to underscore this.

The beginning of the video is the usual "orange man bad" and while "old man and black lady might not be Kropotkin and Goldman," they're still considered to be vastly superior to Trump and should therefore replace him.

Contra then goes over Trumps record, and insists that Clinton would have been a better choice, despite her many shortcomings. Contra then tactfully compares the deaths by the coronavirus to the ones left in the wake on the attack on Benghazi, accusing Trumpists of hypocrisy for prioritizing certain casualties over others.

Contra reiterates that they were a Bernie supporter, and that they should have came out stronger for Bernie in the beginning of the year. Fails to mention their podcast appearance with the equally insufferable Brihanna Joy Gray on the official Bernie podcast (w/o Bernie). Sidenote, Contra talks a lot of game when they're nothing that could be done to help Bernie at this point. Too bad they couldn't take the time to make a video extolling the benefits of voting for Bernie on their platform when it could have actually made a difference...

Mostly just more politsperging, some key areas of note:

-13 mins in: reinforces the normie notion that antifa is an idea. Contra was very protective of Antifa throughout the video, yet also keen to distance themself from it. If you notice, even the "Tabby Cat Antifa" character is now represented by an animated twitter avatar, and not conta in his Antifa cat cosplsy. He wants to remove his own role in promoting leftist radicalism while not wholly alienating it from his brand either.

At around 15 mins in, he compares Antifa to far right militias which he argues are much more dangerous as they have infiltrated police depts and the military. Like Keith Olberman, Hontrapoints is setting up this "root out facists" routine as his political posture for the foreseeable future, even in a Biden presidency.

He then pivots to claim that the far right is infinitely more organized and corrordinated than the far left, and the leftists are armchair revolutionaries who have vague fantasies of seizing power while the right actually has tangible plans to strong arm everyone. Comes off as Nyk coping hard for the increased alarm Antifa is garnering from centrists.

The end of the video features Nyk giving his underage, and mostly foreign fans, a tutorial on how to register to vote in the US federal election, and discussing "having a voting plan."

Maybe he released this as a quick filler video and will release a longer sequel to his Justice video in November? Thats the most charitable interpretation of this video i can come up with. If this is what his content is like going forward though, his days of dominating the lefty political conversation on youtube may quickly be drawing to a close.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

And rising tide of facism? It's unbelievable that progressives still think Trump is this enormous endangerment to their beloved democracy. In the last four years Trump transformed from a populist to your garden-variety republican. Today Trump mostly talks about economics on his rallies. But I'm sure somehow economics is still a dog whistle for racism, anti-semitism and transphobia, right?

What angers lefties is that the usual shaming tactics don't work with Drumpfler. Even worse, he's teaching Republicans how to win, and any who refuse to learn are getting primaries out for being principled losers and no longer being shaming targets.