حلال Connor Bible - Everyone's Favorite Molly Ringwald loving, adoption hating, aspiring writer and bellybutton fucker

[Zeorus]

I'll ask again - why not write movie scripts?

Ever notice how the typeface for a screenwriter's name on a movie poster is miniscule and Tom Clancy's typeface is in Fontzilla?

 

[Kršćanin Čendlervic]

@Connor if you're thinking about writing action novels you should check out Clive Cussler and get a feel of his style. He might not be the greatest author but his books have been a staple in airport bookshops for decades. I know you've said that you despise this type of writing but it honestly seems like the best way to making a career out of this.

 

[Picklechu]

Aw, I missed the best part of the Connor Cycle because I went out with friends. Oh well, there's always next time!

 

[BOLDYSPICY!]

I eagerly await to hear about what he's done today.

 

[DuskEngine]

@Dudeofteenage , I'm not even claiming I wanted to redefine what novels are. Action scenes may be difficult to pull off in prose, like I said before, but damn it, it's fucking possible.

It's totally possible to have good, well-written action scenes in novels, but they really can't be the central draw of your piece, because it's difficult to make it as visceral and exciting as you would in a visual medium. Any novel that revolves primarily around action probably won't be a good novel.

Are you a fan of cyberpunk? You should check out Snow Crash. It has lots of really cool action, but also chapter upon chapter of worldbuilding and unabashed neurolinguistics sperging. It's also really funny.

In fact, I would strongly recommend you read a lot more widely in general. You can only reconfigure Watchmen, Evangelion and Taxi Driver in so many ways.

 

[Ryker]

Connor, we've had words before about the nature of adoption earlier in this thread ~ but I'm prepared to forgive you. The key to good writing is good reading. I believe that such sentiments have been mentioned in passing previously. I just want to reiterate such a belief. You need to read, read, and read some more. Spend a part of each day engrossing yourself in the craft as others have expressed it. Trust me, you will grow as writer as you take in the tradition contained in the pages that you peruse. I would also like to stress that there are people here present in this thread that deal with language and its written expression for a living. You would do well to listen to them. Some write, some edit, some critique, some try their hands at combinations of such tasks. They have offered to help you. Why would you not take them up on their offers, so generously given? If I were you, I would avail myself of such a service in the blink of an eye. In a show of good faith, let me mention that I have for some years now dealt with the teaching of literature and have published in the field. I am more than happy, along with others in this thread, to look at your work and advise you as best as I can as to the preparation of your text to a level that would be satisfactory to a basic, generalized reader.

 

[Dudeofteenage]

It's totally possible to have good, well-written action scenes in novels, but they really can't be the central draw of your piece, because it's difficult to make it as visceral and exciting as you would in a visual medium. Any novel that revolves primarily around action probably won't be a good novel.

Yeah, I should clarify, I'm not against action in novels. I just don't think you can have an "action novel" in the same sense you can have a romance novel or a crime novel or a horror novel, e.g. a novel that is mostly about action scenes. A novel can use action, but it can't be all about action, at least not if it wants to be any good.

 

[DrChristianTroy]

@Dudeofteenage , who pissed in your cornflakes? I know it wasn't an action novel, and already, I'm picking up a strong anti-war/anti-violence sentiment from what I've read so far. What's becoming apparent to me, at least at this point, is that I have two options when it comes to writing, and neither of them are particularly pleasant.

1) I can just give up writing permanently, fold my cards, and maybe get stuck in a menial, dead-end job and a loveless marriage, lamenting for the rest of the life that I coulda been a contender.

Or...

2) I can keep writing, regardless of what haters think. I've always wanted to write an action novel, as absurd and impractical as it may sound. For me, it's the adventure and experience that counts. Go ahead down vote this if you like. I don't care.

You could continue writing but have a backup. Work on things to get a grown ass job while writing in your spare time. No offense but shit ain't that hard.

 

[sugoi-chan]

You could continue writing but have a backup. Work on things to get a grown ass job while writing in your spare time. No offense but shit ain't that hard.

Quite a lot of the great writers didn't start out as writers but worked a whole bunch of jobs. Hemingway was a reporter and a soldier. Ian Fleming was a spy and a commando. Arthur Conan Doyle was a whaler, an army medical doctor, and a ship's doctor. These experiences formed the raw material that these authors would then take from as the wrote the books that made them famous.

@Connor, in order to be a good author (at least one as good as you celebrated as you claim you want to be), you need to experience things. At the very least, you need to have a fallback job. Writing doesn't pay the bills for 99% of writers out there. For every Tom Clancy, there are millions of wannabes who struggle to eat or who work deadend jobs because they can't get anything published. Even writers who went right into writing, like Stephen King, had to pay their dues in a lot of grunt jobs, failing miserably at getting any works accepted before they made it big.

 

[Picklechu]

You could continue writing but have a backup. Work on things to get a grown ass job while writing in your spare time. No offense but shit ain't that hard.

That's what most writers do, too. To be a Stephen King or a JK Rowling and be able to completely support oneself on writing alone is extraordinarily rare.

 

[MysticMisty]

I eagerly await to hear about what he's done today.

Laid around on his ass masturbating unless somebody dragged him out of the house to help grandma.

 

[Grand Number of Pounds]

I wonder how Connor's day has been - or maybe he crashed into slumber from his sperg cycle last night and hasn't done anything today.

 

[Florence]

Yeah, I should clarify, I'm not against action in novels. I just don't think you can have an "action novel" in the same sense you can have a romance novel or a crime novel or a horror novel, e.g. a novel that is mostly about action scenes. A novel can use action, but it can't be all about action, at least not if it wants to be any good.

Agreed, it's often pretty complicated to transplant an entire concept from one medium to another. Tom Clancy's books do have multiple action scenes, but there's almost always more non-action scenes to help build up the plot. Trying to write Die Hard (for example) as a book would fail, simply because it's full of guns and violence to draw in the viewer but lacks plot (comparatively speaking).

 

[sugoi-chan]

Agreed, it's often pretty complicated to transplant an entire concept from one medium to another. Tom Clancy's books do have multiple action scenes, but there's almost always more non-action scenes to help build up the plot. Trying to write Die Hard (for example) as a book would fail, simply because it's full of guns and violence to draw in the viewer but lacks plot (comparatively speaking).

"John McClane knocked the gun that Karl was holding to his head back and grabbed the terrorist by the neck. He pushed him back until he slammed into a stack of barrells, sending them flying. McClane then kneed Karl in the stomach, punching him eight times while the German groaned. He started to punch Karl's face but Karl finally got a block in and threw John to the ground. While Karl walked around menacingly, John saw a gun, but Karl kicked him and he flew back. John tried to get the gun again but Karl kicked him again, this time in the stomach. Karl kept kicking John in the face over and over again until John landed on some pipes, sending them rolling. John got the upper hand and slammed Karl's face into the pipes over and over again."

@Connor, is this what you meant by an "action novel"?

 

[Ruin]

I don't even think Connor reads to be honest. He regurgitates TVtropes crap and makes references to old movies but I don't remember him ever talking about what kind of books he reads or what books he read recently.

 

[Dudeofteenage]

I don't even think Connor reads to be honest. He regurgitates TVtropes crap and makes references to old movies but I don't remember him ever talking about what kind of books he reads or what books he read recently.

Well, he's started "All Quiet on the Western Front", so that's something.

But yes, big picture, Connor wants to write, but he is incredibly indifferent to other writers' work.

 

[Meowthkip]

Hey, Connor.

That idea about writing a comic script wasn't a bad one. Alphaboy would probably work as a comic.

 

[drtoboggan]

Agreed, it's often pretty complicated to transplant an entire concept from one medium to another. Tom Clancy's books do have multiple action scenes, but there's almost always more non-action scenes to help build up the plot. Trying to write Die Hard (for example) as a book would fail, simply because it's full of guns and violence to draw in the viewer but lacks plot (comparatively speaking).

Die Hard was adapted from a book. A Kung Fu movie would be tricky though.

 

[Connor Bible]

Gee, look what I discovered!
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[sugoi-chan]

Gee, look what I discovered!
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Ichverbot

That's been known for a while. How's that writing you said you were gonna start today going?