New York Post got their hands on a hard drive from Hunter Biden's laptop and shows Joe Biden lied about Hunter's dealings with Ukraine

Couple stories on the New York Post

Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

Hunter Biden introduced his father, then-Vice President Joe Biden, to a top executive at a Ukrainian energy firm less than a year before the elder Biden pressured government officials in Ukraine in…

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• https://archive.is/hKrRu

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/hunter-biden-emails-show-leveraging-connections-with-dad-to-boost-burisma-pay/

• https://archive.is/XYjti

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/senate-committee-investigating-hunter-biden-hard-drive-email/

• https://archive.is/tzf98

FBI has had the laptop for over a year already and didn't say anything. Remember when Trump got impeached for congratulating the new President of the Ukraine?

What the hell is the FBI doing?

Supposedly there is also a video of him engaged in a "sex act" and a couple of photo's of him. This is one is particular juicy

 

[Roybertitos]

Who the hell cares. Hunter isn’t running for president and the current president’s son does speeches and interviews while hopped up on coke.

Everyone already knows Hunter has had a past with drugs and his own father has forgiven him. Y’all act like drugs aren’t an issue for millions of people and that the current president isn’t the king of nepotism himself.

I think the issue at hand is the possibility that he was using his father's name and influence for bribes from foreign powers and that Old Joe used his own pull to squash an investigation into his son's shady dealings.

I might be just some retard posting on some autist forum, but even I can see that's plain old corruption if it's proven to be true. There's more than enough here to warrant a formal investigation at the very least right?

 

[american_amadan]

I think the issue at hand is the possibility that he was using his father's name and influence for bribes from foreign powers and that Old Joe used his own pull to squash an investigation into his son's shady dealings.

I might be just some retard posting on some autist forum, but even I can see that's plain old corruption if it's proven to be true. There's more than enough here to warrant a formal investigation at the very least right?

While I agree with what you said, they are going to have to open up a formal investigation on everyone who is the child of a big time politician that has done this. This happens way more than we think it does.

 

[Just Here for A and H]

Potentially related video of a Chinese defector uploaded on September 30th. Seems to touch on the same things as this week's surprise. Apologies if it's been posted prior.

Spoiler: Familiar faces

 

[Roybertitos]

While I agree with what you said, they are going to have to open up a formal investigation on everyone who is the child of a big time politician that has done this. This happens way more than we think it does.

Well not every big time politician is running for president right now right? Seems like Biden deserves priority on this one.

 

[Syaoran Li]

If I saw a bunch of shady dealings with foreign agents my first instinct would probably be to call the FBI too. While the prospect of CP on there is a wild one I'm not putting any stock into that until it's confirmed beyond the shadow of a doubt.

I think it's a mix of CP, shady deals with the CCP, the Ukrainian scandals, and a bunch of other things that could implicate a lot of the bigwigs in the corporate and political machines.

The CP was probably what convinced some no-name computer repairman to call the FBI and immediately make backups of the evidence and hand everything over to the Feds.

Even if he was probing around and saw random shit about shady money laundering or corruption in the Ukraine, I doubt he'd panic unless he knew what to look for specifically. CP is the kind of thing that would scare the fuck out of anyone and get them to call the cops ASAP.

I'm kinda on the side of it doesn't matter. I've seen kids from great families with great parents turn into fuckups. It happens. While there's an argument that it's the parents fault, it's a pretty lame way of putting the blame on them. Especially because it can go both ways, the parent(s) was too lenient/didn't care, or the parent(s) was overprotective and the kid got destructive when he failed the expectations.

Hunter Biden is a dickhead for sure. But I can't say I wouldn't be a manic like that if my dad was a US Senator/Vice President. I can't sit here and tell people to stop letting opportunity pass you by and then belittle Hunter Biden for taking a job with a shady gas company making a ton of money. And then taking that money to blow coke out of a strippers asshole.

Boys will be boys. I still believe in that term, especially since it's become part of the third wave feminist rhetoric as horrible. If anything this shows that regardless of political party, people will reap the benefits of it in any way they can. There's a ton of Hunter Bidens in politics. Kids of rich, influential people that just don't give a fuck. Is it shameful? Yes. Do they really care? Not at all.

"Boys will be boys" is fine and dandy but there's a difference between "blackjack and hookers" and actual CP

If it was just pics of Hunter Biden doing blow or hanging out with cheap floozies in some place like Vegas or Branson, I could accept the "boys will be boys" excuse to a point. But anything involving actual pedophilia and abuse of children is inexcusable.

For real, does anyone here have a handle on what they're basing this Russian disinformation narrative from? I remember reading that there was some spook report that Guillani was being pulled into a Russian spy hoax or something but that doesn't feel like it's good enough to dismiss the story entirely.

I mean Tucker Carlson and other big right wing media personalities are staking their reputations on this, and they've said that this shit is airtight from the shit they've seen behind the screen. I refuse to believe that they would do something that retarded with no evidence. I suppose we'll have to wait a couple more days for something really big to drop.

I think it's the sunk costs fallacy in full effect when it comes to Russian collusion. They spent three years on RussiaGate and the Mueller investigations and now they're the guy who lost so much money at blackjack that he can only keep playing.

 

[E. Knee as Weapon - Cont.]

Who the hell cares. Hunter isn’t running for president and the current president’s son does speeches and interviews while hopped up on coke.

Everyone already knows Hunter has had a past with drugs and his own father has forgiven him. Y’all act like drugs aren’t an issue for millions of people and that the current president isn’t the king of nepotism himself.

I think what this really is, is a setting of the stage for the invalidation of the Biden presidency in the same way Russiagate invalidated the Trump presidency.

But the difference is that nobody had illusions about Trump in 2016 whereas lots of Democrats want to believe Biden 2020 is above all that tawdry stuff.

 

[derpherp2]

I think the issue at hand is the possibility that he was using his father's name and influence for bribes from foreign powers and that Old Joe used his own pull to squash an investigation into his son's shady dealings.

I might be just some retard posting on some autist forum, but even I can see that's plain old corruption if it's proven to be true. There's more than enough here to warrant a formal investigation at the very least right?

To make no mention that Biden, hotheaded manchild that he is (literally pick which Biden it still applies) impeached the president because of this.

Which went all the way through January.
You know what else was happening during January? Covid.
We could argue the response was lagged directly because of impeachment and indirectly because the DNC are a gaggle of retards screaming DRUMPF BAD TRUST SIENCE DRUMPF RACIST EAT BAT SOUP DURING LUNAR NEW YEAR GONG HEI FAT CHOY.

 

[Bosmadden]

What you are missing is that the statutory immunity for what people post on your platform is ESSENTIAL for any social media platform, including the Kiwi Farms, to function. In order for you have this exemption, you cant engage in "editorial control". Any idiot can post something on the Kiwi Farms. But very few people can post in the New York Times. Because the New York Times is a Publisher. Their "mods" decide what gets posted and what does not. This makes what gets posted their responsibility. On the Kiwi Farms, anyone can post without the Mods involvement. That means what is posted is not the Farms' responsibility. This is important because if Null could get sued for any random shit posted on here, this webzone would be done in in a tidal wave of litigation.

Where it gets dicey is section 230 has an exemption that allows platforms to remove illegal content (like CP) and the kicker "or otherwise objectionable content". That last part was the open barn door that twitter, facebook and the rest ran through. Here on the Kiwifarms, the mods remove illegal content and under the "otherwise objectionable" full spergtastic posts that are annoying. What twitter and facebook have decided to do was remove wrong thinking opinions. And that is where things get really dicey because the digital public square has very much become a thing.

There is not an easy solution to this. The "otherwise objectionable content" loop hole needs to be closed somehow, but how you do that without breaking the very core of how the internet polices content (content moderation) is a huge challenge. One the geriatric boomers in Congress are almost certainly not up too

Section 230 was passed to protect ISPs from liability from users posting illegal content on their servers. It had absolutely fuck all to do with protecting social media as there was no such thing back in 1996. ISPs were viewed as private utilities, like phone carriers. AT&T wouldn't be held liable for someone using their phone system to plan a bank robbery and so ISPs wouldn't be held liable for some assholes posting CP on a website they're hosting.

By precedent and judicial interpretation social media businesses have used this law to protect themselves, even when they themselves are originating content or knowingly conspiring with users in allowing illegal content on their website. I'm more than happy for ISPs to continue to receive the full protection of Section 230. However social media companies are not neutral carriers like ISPs or phone providers. They produce their own content to scale, they actively curate and edit their users content, they monetize their users content. They neither deserve or need Section 230 protection, in fact it's outrageous it was ever extended to them in the first place.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Section 230 was passed to protect ISPs from liability from users posting illegal content on their servers. It had absolutely fuck all to do with protecting social media as there was no such thing back in 1996. ISPs were viewed as private utilities, like phone carriers. AT&T wouldn't be held liable for someone using their phone system to plan a bank robbery and so ISPs wouldn't be held liable for some assholes posting CP on a website they're hosting.

By precedent and judicial interpretation social media businesses have used this law to protect themselves, even when they themselves are originating content or knowingly conspiring with users in allowing illegal content on their website. I'm more than happy for ISPs to continue to receive the full protection of Section 230. However social media companies are not neutral carriers like ISPs or phone providers. They produce their own content to scale, they actively curate and edit their users content, they monetize their users content. They neither deserve or need Section 230 protection, in fact it's outrageous it was ever extended to them in the first place.

So does the Kiwi Farms.

 

[Iceland Heavy]

Everyone already knows Hunter has had a past with drugs and his own father has forgiven him.

Oh well why didn't you say so earlier? Pack it up everyone, there's nothing to see here since the Corn Pop himself has forgiven Hunter of everything.

 

[Bosmadden]

For real, does anyone here have a handle on what they're basing this Russian disinformation narrative from? I remember reading that there was some spook report that Guillani was being pulled into a Russian spy hoax or something but that doesn't feel like it's good enough to dismiss the story entirely.

I mean Tucker Carlson and other big right wing media personalities are staking their reputations on this, and they've said that this shit is airtight from the shit they've seen behind the screen. I refuse to believe that they would do something that retarded with no evidence. I suppose we'll have to wait a couple more days for something really big to drop.

It's a rhetorical argument based on emotion meant to appeal to the Dem base. They've been trained for the past 4 years to respond to muh Russia like Pavlovian dogs.

We knew that the email drop was genuine when the Biden campaign refused to call it out as fake, It's been more than 3 days already and they still haven't. The CBS reporter out right asking Biden about it, and him responding with personal insults, is maybe a sign that the MSM embargo on this story is about to break. A lot of reporters are not totally pozzed DNC propagandists, they actually want to do their jobs. This is the biggest corruption scandal in decades and none of them are allowed to discuss it.

 

[Horizontal Horror]

Who the hell cares.

Everyone that was screeching at Trump for his "high crimes and misdemeanors" with zero evidence should care since Biden reportedly took half of Hunter's "salary" as bribes and there is potentially multiple terabytes of evidence against the DNC candidate that he is guilty of every crime he has been projecting onto Trump for years.

 

[Atomic Wangler]

You all need to get some perspective here. Joe Biden allowed his son to play hardball with some of the most corrupt people on the planet in a scheme to sell Joe's influence and office. Biden knew his son was a junkie with serious fucking problems and still pushed him into a major role in their crime family. If Biden gave a shit about Hunter, he would have never allowed him to meet and work with all these corrupt people. Biden used his addicted son to make dirty money out of pure greed. I have no fucking sympathy for any of them, especially Joe. He used his son in the worst way instead of protecting and helping him - Joe Biden violated his duty as a father and a couple feel good text messages change nothing.

I've said in the past that I feel bad about Joe being used as a political puppet by the DNC, but given all that's come out in this scandal with him using his dead children as political props and his living one as a middle man in shady dealings, I'm now thinking his current predicament is some kind of karmic justice. Joe used his own children as political pawns because their deceased or drug addled nature made them easy tools. Now, he's decaying infront of the nation, barely knows who he is or what he's running for, and the rest of the DNC are circling like jackals, eager to use the frail old man as their political proxy, because his frail nature makes him an easy tool.

 

[Bosmadden]

So does the Kiwi Farms.

We don;t need to outright repeal Section 230 (but honestly I wouldn't give a fuck if they did). Simply amend it, for those websites that do not actively curate or edit user generated content, and do not produce their own content, Section 230 protection will continue to apply. For those websites that do Section 230 protections will not apply. But again it would be a lot simpler if they just repealed it and treated internet publishers exactly the same as other publishers, with the same 1A protections but no special exemptions.

 

[mindlessobserver]

We don;t need to outright repeal Section 230 (but honestly I wouldn't give a fuck if they did). Simply amend it, for those websites that do not actively curate or edit user generated content, and do not produce their own content, Section 230 protection will continue to apply. For those websites that do Section 230 protections will not apply. But again it would be a lot simpler if they just repealed it and treated internet publishers exactly the same as other publishers, with the same 1A protections but no special exemptions.

Small sites like this one would get squished. Right now the mountain Jews and Greer can get bounced out of court without Null having to lift a finger because they dont have a legal basis on which to sue. Even creating "an objective standard" would mean Null would have to pay for a lawyer to go through the initial motion practice to bounce a lawsuit out. The Farms would essentially be required to have an attorney on permanent retainer to the tune of thousands of dollars every month. That is incredibly cost prohibitive. And that is just a baseline. Having to slap down vexatious litigants would cost additional thousands more.

 

[Tiggletown]

Just a heads up, the new talking points are out. Instead of being muh Russia fakes they Are now diverting the conversation to Hunters drug abuse and not the biden family corruption and emails.

If you hear "who cares Joe already talked about Hunters Drug Abuse"

Or

"We all knew Hunter was a drug addict, Joe talked about this"

You are talking to someone who just got their download. Please act accordingly.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Potentially related video of a Chinese defector uploaded on September 30th. Seems to touch on the same things as this week's surprise. Apologies if it's been posted prior.

View attachment 1667687

Spoiler: Familiar faces

View attachment 1667690

Underage Chinese hookers, I was right. Also underage Chinese hookers doing really raunchy shit, scat, fisting, use your imagination. I'm thinking these will be called the Biden Poo Tapes.

It will be leaked.

 

[Horizontal Horror]

Just a heads up, the new talking points are out. Instead of being muh Russia fakes they Are now diverting the conversation to Hunters drug abuse and not the biden family corruption and emails.

If you hear "who cares Joe already talked about Hunters Drug Abuse"

Or

"We all knew Hunter was a drug addict, Joe talked about this"

You are talking to someone who just got their download. Please act accordingly.

Will they try to divert attention to Hunter when the CP video is confirmed? Will Stephen Colbert demand that Biden reveal where the Cee Pee tape is? These fuckers all need to fry.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Joe is hardly in control of the narrative. The institutional minions that run his "campaign" are. If the new narrative is "throw Hunter under the bus", then I think Hunter needs to throw himself on the mercy of the Golden Throne soon before he catches a severe case of suicidal tendencies.

 

[Bosmadden]

Small sites like this one would get squished. Right now the mountain Jews and Greer can get bounced out of court without Null having to lift a finger because they dont have a legal basis on which to sue. Even creating "an objective standard" would mean Null would have to pay for a lawyer to go through the initial motion practice to bounce a lawsuit out. The Farms would essentially be required to have an attorney on permanent retainer to the tune of thousands of dollars every month. That is incredibly cost prohibitive. And that is just a baseline. Having to slap down vexatious litigants would cost additional thousands more.

Social media is a toxic mess, it has an appalling effect on the young and is turning an entire generation into narcissistic retards. I'd love to think that repealing Section 230 would bring it all crashing down, but alas no.

The rest of the planet does not have the equivalent of Section 230 of the Communications and Decency Act. Other jurisdictions, in places like the UK , have much stronger civil recourse for defamation and they completely lack a Bill of Rights to protect speech. Facebook, for example, have been successfully sued in both the UK and Australia for user generated content on their website that was libelous. Despite all of that big social happily does business in those countries.

I'm sorry I don't get what makes the internet or websites 'special' compared to other forms of communication. If a website is being actively curated, which most social media sites now are, and going even further if websites are actively encouraging and willfully enabling libel, why the fuck shouldn't they be held liable?