Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[True native]

But it's sad to see someone choosing to live this way. There are legit disabled people in my life who are appalled when I show them people like Morgan. They try to live normal, productive lives and can't comprehend why a reasonably healthy person like Morgan wants this attention as opposed to actually having a life. Imagine wasting your youth laying in bed, making yourself vomit, and constantly chasing those sweet sweet pity asspats. Fucking unreal.

You know how with kids, you call them on their bullshit. Like the kid pretends to have crippling stomach pain, so you let them stay at home, but you force them to stay in bed resting all day, they can only have books to read, no screens, and simple food like dry crackers and ginger tea. They get over it by lunchtime and suddenly decide they feel a lot better. By supper time you make everyone else chicken Alfredo and you make them dry toast and they promise you they feel better and will definitely be going to school tomorrow to get their greedy mouths around the chicken Alfredo. that’s how you de-munch/ raise normal kids. Someones mother, instead of using words like “no” and “go to school”, indulged every burp and growing pain, blowing them out of proportion until we have this adult.

They've been claiming some neurodegenerative condition, which obviously makes no fucking sense. Now she brings up autism cause daddy dearest has it. They've never named an actual disorder otherwise cause one doesn't exist that matches her super specific larping requirements.

I thought it was the fake epilepsy? Psychogenic non epileptic seizures. Essentially, seizures that feel real for the person but are inorganic in origin (in layman’s terms, faked, but induced by real trauma). Epileptic foundation’s recognise it happens but it’s treated with CBT. In other news, it cannot, by any stretch of the imagination, cause brain damage. It’s impossible.

im bringing it up because wasn’t her mom sperging about it on Facebook a few weeks back? That’s the problem, fake epilepsy?

 

[doubter4life]

Morgan deleted this post pretty fast the other day and I’d love to hear her explain why she was drawing blood from her port. I’m sure it has nothing to do with the fact the hematologist oncologist told her that her labs were fine.
Also, yeah Morgan, it’s blood,you dolt. You say it’s not the best example but that’s literally what blood looks like. You definitely don’t have cancer...or dementia...or Parkinson’s. Lay off the drugs and stop abusing every controlled substance you have. Get a job and a life.

 

[Special spoonie]

I thought it was the fake epilepsy? Psychogenic non epileptic seizures. Essentially, seizures that feel real for the person but are inorganic in origin (in layman’s terms, faked, but induced by real trauma). Epileptic foundation’s recognise it happens but it’s treated with CBT. In other news, it cannot, by any stretch of the imagination, cause brain damage. It’s impossible.

im bringing it up because wasn’t her mom sperging about it on Facebook a few weeks back? That’s the problem, fake epilepsy?

Daddy crisp in his email to null claims she’s cared for under the national centre for epilepsy

Yet in the get bee home he claims “possible epilepsy” just another inconsistency I guess. but no the main claim is an unspecified “degenerative neurological disorder” despite the fact that she “regains” her abilities like being non verbal etc

 

[$hakerattle]

You know how with kids, you call them on their bullshit. Like the kid pretends to have crippling stomach pain, so you let them stay at home, but you force them to stay in bed resting all day, they can only have books to read, no screens, and simple food like dry crackers and ginger tea. They get over it by lunchtime and suddenly decide they feel a lot better. By supper time you make everyone else chicken Alfredo and you make them dry toast and they promise you they feel better and will definitely be going to school tomorrow to get their greedy mouths around the chicken Alfredo. that’s how you de-munch/ raise normal kids. Someones mother, instead of using words like “no” and “go to school”, indulged every burp and growing pain, blowing them out of proportion until we have this adult.

I thought it was the fake epilepsy? Psychogenic non epileptic seizures. Essentially, seizures that feel real for the person but are inorganic in origin (in layman’s terms, faked, but induced by real trauma). Epileptic foundation’s recognise it happens but it’s treated with CBT. In other news, it cannot, by any stretch of the imagination, cause brain damage. It’s impossible.

im bringing it up because wasn’t her mom sperging about it on Facebook a few weeks back? That’s the problem, fake epilepsy?

So true. Or you find out if they're avoiding school for a reason - struggling, bullies, whatever - and you help them work through it. Morgan did get sick in high school. Mono or something? People who knew her have mentioned that as a turning point. I think Morgan craved the attention she felt for being so sick. She also didn't want to go to college or join the adult world because she realized she wouldn't be getting that kind of attention. She was scared and chose the coward's way out. I wonder if her mom didn't give her enough attention as a kid? Oh yeah, can't recall - is she on SSI? Hard to imagine it being approved, unless they did it for mental health issues and M keeps that quiet.

 

[True native]

So true. Or you find out if they're avoiding school for a reason - struggling, bullies, whatever - and you help them work through it. Morgan did get sick in high school. Mono or something? People who knew her have mentioned that as a turning point. I think Morgan craved the attention she felt for being so sick. She also didn't want to go to college or join the adult world because she realized she wouldn't be getting that kind of attention. She was scared and chose the coward's way out. I wonder if her mom didn't give her enough attention as a kid? Oh yeah, can't recall - is she on SSI? Hard to imagine it being approved, unless they did it for mental health issues and M keeps that quiet.

To be fair, after caronachan, they have done more research into post-viral syndrome, because caronachan is really fucking people up long term. They have looped a couple of other virus into the mix, one being mono. What happens is you get residual symptoms from a big viral infection with high viral load, symptoms like brain fog, memory loss, fatigue, sore lower joints etc. Morgan could have been quite traumatised by her long infection, mono takes months to clear your system. You can still function but if she had post-viral stuff and depression linked to the disease , that could have started everything. Treat the depression and anxiety and get occupational therapy for the lifestyle inadequacies and she’d probably be totally different. But we’re here instead. Sad.

 

[large_farva]

I think Ali is my new favorite. Just because she has produced an enormous amount of content, more lies than I can even keep track of, and it's not little shit, it's kidnapping, stage 4 cancer 7 or 8 times, pregnancies of multiples, miscarriages, babies that died, rinse and repeat. She's like the energizer bunny, she just keeps going and going and going. And she is canadian white trash, diabetic reborn baby obsessed, rumored to be a sex offender, has 2 kids taken by CPS and currently claiming yet another pregnancy just weeks after a miracle remission from stage 4 cancer and a miscarriage like 6 weeks ago.

as of right now, poor Ali is terribly upset that people are still catching on to her lies, maybe her donations are drying up.
Here's a dump of her recent public social media freakouts, not including a suicide baiting tiktok.
I really need help digging up the past on this piece of shit so I can make a proper thread on her.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

Back with another Morgan update. She’s been posting quite a bit the last month with a new symptom every other day so this will have to be two separate updates.Still a crazy bitch. Claiming she can’t keep her head up because of her weak neck but yet manages to get her hair done multiple times last month. She’s also talked about how she vomits constantly and cannot eat anything. She’s worried she is losing so much weight she will die....but manages to post quite a bit of food pics on private IG where most of her minions cannot see.

She’s also been posting about when she abused pain meds/benzos/whatever she could get her hands on to the point she had a psychosis (I mean autoimmune encephalitis) and telling her beloved minions how the hospitals abused her.

Good to know that not even the shadiest lawyers would touch Morgan and her crazy mother’s attempts to sue hospitals for her munchie bullshit. Sounds like they managed to find a shmuck lawyer who agreed to represent them, he got some medical records, realized they were batshit crazy and told them to get lost. No other lawyer would get 100 miles near them.

They really should get some munchie award for managing to get a hospital to pay for an ambulance to drive her hundreds of miles home just to be rid of Morgan & Mommy.

I’m at least glad the psych hospital managed to get rid of all her munchie tube toys for awhile.

Morgan watching stoner movies all alone in her sad munchie cave in Mommy’s house, instead of just smoking weed with friends. Sad!

 

[griftinsincebeengriftin]

I think Ali is my new favorite. Just because she has produced an enormous amount of content, more lies than I can even keep track of, and it's not little shit, it's kidnapping, stage 4 cancer 7 or 8 times, pregnancies of multiples, miscarriages, babies that died, rinse and repeat. She's like the energizer bunny, she just keeps going and going and going. And she is canadian white trash, diabetic reborn baby obsessed, rumored to be a sex offender, has 2 kids taken by CPS and currently claiming yet another pregnancy just weeks after a miracle remission from stage 4 cancer and a miscarriage like 6 weeks ago.

as of right now, poor Ali is terribly upset that people are still catching on to her lies, maybe her donations are drying up.
Here's a dump of her recent public social media freakouts, not including a suicide baiting tiktok.
I really need help digging up the past on this piece of shit so I can make a proper thread on her.

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Jesus I can’t make sense of any of that mess. Her posts read like, instead of typing out her actual thoughts, she just hits the middle word in her predictive text over and over again .

 

[Come]

I think Ali is my new favorite.

I can't even follow what she's saying. This is just garden variety schizophrenia in my opinion. If she's claiming this many repeat pregnancies in an impossible timeframe... it's a fixed delusion. Disorganized, delusional, word salad, tangential thought process..... Schizophrenia.

 

[Snusmumriken]

So true. Or you find out if they're avoiding school for a reason - struggling, bullies, whatever - and you help them work through it. Morgan did get sick in high school. Mono or something? People who knew her have mentioned that as a turning point. I think Morgan craved the attention she felt for being so sick. She also didn't want to go to college or join the adult world because she realized she wouldn't be getting that kind of attention. She was scared and chose the coward's way out. I wonder if her mom didn't give her enough attention as a kid? Oh yeah, can't recall - is she on SSI? Hard to imagine it being approved, unless they did it for mental health issues and M keeps that quiet.

Hard agree. Not saying that munchies have any excuse of sympathy—a lot more of us have grown up neglected than we even realize—but yeah my unprofessional guess is that The Munch is always tied to longterm neglect. If you learned that faking sick was the only way to get attention, that you couldn’t get people to look at you through accomplishments so there always had to be some emergency instead, you were probs neglected. And they probably don’t even realize it because their parents or guardians would finally come around in the end in reaction to the bad behavior, so they don’t realize it took them THAT much in order to get a simple “are you okay?”

A combination of the two parenting styles is favorable in my opinion. If your child won’t go to school because their stomach hurts so much, it only takes a second to ask them “Is that the only reason you don’t want to go?” It doesn’t take much to see then whether they really are hiding a big problem, or if they just wanna sleep in that day. And if there’s no problem then yeah, get them up and get them to school if you gotta drag them by their pajamas to do it, but if they’re struggling with something serious then it’s better to spend their first period talking it through and helping them solve their problem than wasting their entire school day coddling them on the surface at home.

Yeah, you won’t get Mommy’s hugs and soup when you’re away at college. But if you grew up starved for attention, you’ve got a whole new chance to get it the right way. Maybe you didn’t any recognition at home, but you can get it from joining a club that needs you, kicking ass on your sports team of choice, hell, even just being a really good friend. You have to do things in order for people to know you exist, but you’ll find that attention well deserved feels a lot better than attention that had to be stolen. Ever notice why normal, functioning people are usually pretty tight-lipped about being sick or injured and don’t milk it for all its worth? They don’t need to. They want to recover quick and get back to what they’re doing, because success feels a whole lot better than malingering.

When you’re an adult, everywhere you look is full of opportunities. All you have to do is try.

 

[iSaidShhh]

[...] When you’re an adult, everywhere you look is full of opportunities. All you have to do is try.

Sorry, wasn't sure where to reply to so I'll just grab the end and go from there, but I think you and @$hakerattle have it completely right.

Mono is an absolute motherfucker for a kid. PL, but it knocked me on my ass for a month and a half when I was in high school, and it was goddamn near impossible to come back and keep trying, not because I got babied at home (I was old enough that I got left to my own devices, which were 90% sleeping) but because I was so physically tired even after I was "better" and so far behind in schoolwork - and I was in a ton of dork ass extracurriculars that needed me.

I can't imagine how hard it would be for a kid that was already struggling or felt like she didn't have anything to offer/contribute. A sudden influx of attention as The Mono Girl (in a small school, at least, there's only one or two a year) would have probably felt like mainlining crack. Mono is serious enough to take you out of school for a while, can/does have lasting effects, everybody hears "mono" and knows it's probably at least somewhat serious; there's no wonder it sparked a baby munchie.

 

[Bobsun Dugnutt]

Except for the fact that everyone on this thread who knew Morgan at school said that she was a pretty, popular girl. I doubt that she was unused to attention.

 

[$hakerattle]

Except for the fact that everyone on this thread who knew Morgan at school said that she was a pretty, popular girl. I doubt that she was unused to attention.

But that's the thing - it's a different kind of attention. And she probably feared her high school popularity not carrying over to college and beyond. But if she became a Sooper Sick Warrior, then she could have that attention and be admired for being "so brave." No college degree, work, or effort required!

Also, how do we submit text for random text consideration? Ali's posts were hilarious, I especially loved:

nervous break down crying shaking gasping for air screaming scared woke up not long ago anxiety panic attacks dapression

 

[Cats]

I've dated way too many girls like this. They are pretty emotionally draining to be around, especially when their "trauma" comes from normal things that happen to every kid growing up, feelings that everyone has at some point as a teenager or young adult. It goes beyond poor coping mechanisms and into deliberate unwillingness to rise up. The worst I recall are the girls I've known who claim Borderline Personality Disorder yet show literally no symptoms and use their self diagnosis as an excuse for habitual unacceptable behavior.

I am completely open to being in a relationship with a legitimate sufferer of a mental disorder and very willing to provide the emotional care and patience required by such a person but I gotta say the years I've spent with perpetual victims who do this sort of thing has left me a little wary of opening up to people with certain red flags. What makes me sad is that there really is no way to combat the compulsion of a person to feign mental illness, they always take it as a personal attack. Sometimes i want to help these people but I don't know how.

 

[doubter4life]

But that's the thing - it's a different kind of attention. And she probably feared her high school popularity not carrying over to college and beyond. But if she became a Sooper Sick Warrior, then she could have that attention and be admired for being "so brave." No college degree, work, or effort required!

Also, how do we submit text for random text consideration? Ali's posts were hilarious, I especially loved:

nervous break down crying shaking gasping for air screaming scared woke up not long ago anxiety panic attacks dapression

from my experience with the family, it seems like when she got mono,she got an overwhelming amount of attention. I didn’t know Morgan when she was very little but just knowing her mom,Laurie is intense,loves the spotlight,loves drama and is a lot to handle. It seems like their bonding came from Morgan being sick because Morgan got super special attention (Laurie was always soliciting people to send cards and things to cheer her up which often led to care packages and gift cards.) and Laurie got attention for being a doting mom to the sickest girl to ever live. Morgan has claimed she couldn’t talk for a year at that time but there has been zero evidence of that and it’s only mentioned when she needs to prove something.

Looking back at Morgan’s videos and pics, her decline in the last seven years has been drastic. Aside with shaving her hair off, and pulling out all her teeth,she’s developed an extremely monotone slow way of speaking and she has seems to have declined intellectually. She claims it’s due to dementia but I believe all these years of spending all day every day abusing controlled substances and smoking weed till she passes out has caught up with her cognitively.

While they are definitely over the top, I also think Laurie and Morgan both need serious therapy because they do seem to truly believe Morgan could actually have all these illnesses despite multiple medical professional at many different institutions turning them down many,many times. They take this as being the norm for chronically ill but those that are ill have maybe one or two experiences with a bad doctor but you don’t hear this from nearly EVERY doctor they encounter.

Also, it’s worth mentioning that Morgan has stated she was sexually abused. She also told many people that her father abused her but it was widely known to be untrue as other classmates have also posted about it. I do not want to say she is lying about both but either way, it sounds like her behavior is a manifestation of either deeper trauma or long term mental issues that have been ignored. I don’t believe the psych hospital had her on all those medications for months for no reason

 

[Special spoonie]

So bee and the Nigerian Prince got engaged

If you were wondering how long they’ve been “together”

they’ve instantly started on the scam

And yes the parents know.

apparently his name

Edit:

 

[True native]

from my experience with the family, it seems like when she got mono,she got an overwhelming amount of attention. I didn’t know Morgan when she was very little but just knowing her mom,Laurie is intense,loves the spotlight,loves drama and is a lot to handle. It seems like their bonding came from Morgan being sick because Morgan got super special attention (Laurie was always soliciting people to send cards and things to cheer her up which often led to care packages and gift cards.) and Laurie got attention for being a doting mom to the sickest girl to ever live. Morgan has claimed she couldn’t talk for a year at that time but there has been zero evidence of that and it’s only mentioned when she needs to prove something.

Looking back at Morgan’s videos and pics, her decline in the last seven years has been drastic. Aside with shaving her hair off, and pulling out all her teeth,she’s developed an extremely monotone slow way of speaking and she has seems to have declined intellectually. She claims it’s due to dementia but I believe all these years of spending all day every day abusing controlled substances and smoking weed till she passes out has caught up with her cognitively.

While they are definitely over the top, I also think Laurie and Morgan both need serious therapy because they do seem to truly believe Morgan could actually have all these illnesses despite multiple medical professional at many different institutions turning them down many,many times. They take this as being the norm for chronically ill but those that are ill have maybe one or two experiences with a bad doctor but you don’t hear this from nearly EVERY doctor they encounter.

From this description, it seems that the drug abuse has probably caused cognitive damage, because it will. Spaced out, can’t follow a conversation, speaking like you’re underwater. Drug induced brain damage is a thing, look at jani Schofield.

it sounds like Laurie has some kind of anxiety disorder centred around parenting. It’s like she is so unsure of her ability to parent Morgan, that she has projected that there is something wrong with Morgan that is out of her control. it seems like the mono cracked the whole thing wide open, like it was validating Laurie, see everyone, there is nothing wrong with lauries mothering, there is something wrong with Morgan. I guess when you are the target of your mothers anxiety and everything is blown out of proportion, you start to believe it’s true. The idea of “getting better” doesn’t exist because there is always something wrong with you. I would guess that little Morgan was being panicked over about the smallest things like scraping her knee,or not liking certain food, or being upset over a toy. Normal child reactions were taken as illness. I’m just speculating, but if the mother is this involved in something being wrong with Morgan, the mother needs there to be something wrong with Morgan, and Laurie needs that because if Morgan is fine, then there is something wrong with Laurie and how she mothers, and I don’t think Laurie can face that at this late stage.

 

[StasisOne]

I dont think Morgan even understands what white blood cells are, only that leukemia is the disease of them. Its normal for counts to go up and down. Given all her infected tube photos she posts, that is probably why they go up and down. Leukemia is generally discovered when the counts go into 30k. She thinks it happens when its low. Hey Morgan, low is generally a good thing.

 

[large_farva]

what we all think of when we picture a pregnant mother.


lmao.

I can't even follow what she's saying. This is just garden variety schizophrenia in my opinion. If she's claiming this many repeat pregnancies in an impossible timeframe... it's a fixed delusion. Disorganized, delusional, word salad, tangential thought process..... Schizophrenia.

IMO this is not schizophrenia. Based on all her videos, it's more like severe manic episodes you'd get with bipolar. She is begging for donations and attention for faked cancers, illnesses, pregnancies, miscarriages, and even faked her own kidnapping. The lies are constant and start before the last one ends. She's been very actively scamming and making shit up for a while.

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

I sure do have baby in belly

Unsure if pregnant or admitting to cannibalism